Kids and Music.

BTW, i was thinking that 'Kids Suck At Music' would make a great name for a mathcore/indie/emo/hardcore/avant-metal/avant prog/dark ambient/industrial band 

The Miracle wrote: BTW, i was thinking that 'Kids Suck At Music' would make a great name for a mathcore/indie/emo/hardcore/avant-metal/avant prog/dark ambient/industrial band

Are you trolling? It's clearly better suited for post-junglewave trip black illbient gothic new agecore.

stonebeard wrote: The Miracle wrote: BTW, i was thinking that 'Kids Suck At Music' would make a great name for a mathcore/indie/emo/hardcore/avant-metal/avant prog/dark ambient/industrial band  Are you trolling? It's clearly better suited for post-junglewave trip black illbient gothic new agecore.

That's eactly what thee guys play

The Miracle wrote: BTW, i was thinking that 'Kids Suck At Music' would make a great name for a mathcore/indie/emo/hardcore/avant-metal/avant prog/dark ambient/industrial band

Edited by Henry Plainview - January 04 2009 at 22:17

The Miracle wrote: stonebeard wrote: 90% of the time, I can't stand bands with singers who sound like they're under 25. Whatever it is they're singing about it always sounds like pathetic, squeaky, whiny garbage. Also, death to the Jonas Bros. Inc.!!! very nice to see you Stonas Jonas Brothers need to be shot already. they're living up to every boy band cliche and seem to dwell on it.

I don't know about any of you guys, but the huge thing in my school is Hardcore and Scene. I think this stuff bothers me more then the normal Jonas Brothers or Nickelback because the musicians in hardcore bands can truly play there instrument. They understand scales and harmonics, and instead of using there ability tastefully, they thrash on there instrument and drown out any interesting sound with screaming.

I guess what makes a genre respectable in a music sense is it's ability to produce different emotions in there music. Things like Hardcore, Reggae, or crazy raw indie music could never create more then one emotion. Basic pop, and even hip hop can vary! I can stand those style's sparingly, but I can't even usually get through an album because I'm too anxious for something different.

Floydian42 wrote: I don't know about any of you guys, but the huge thing in my school is Hardcore and Scene. I think this stuff bothers me more then the normal Jonas Brothers or Nickelback because the musicians in hardcore bands can truly play there instrument. They understand scales and harmonics, and instead of using there ability tastefully, they thrash on there instrument and drown out any interesting sound with screaming. I guess what makes a genre respectable in a music sense is it's ability to produce different emotions in there music. Things like Hardcore, Reggae, or crazy raw indie music could never create more then one emotion. Basic pop, and even hip hop can vary! I can stand those style's sparingly, but I can't even usually get through an album because I'm too anxious for something different.

Dumbing down the kids ? i don't recall any great social movement headed by people who stated first and foremost that they were doing it because of their tastes in music.
Please refrain from dismissing the intelligence of any generation just because they listen to music you don't like.
You sound like those people who would 'force" others to watch 'educational" tv only, and read the "right" books, and hold the "proper" thoughts.
Give some time to thinking about what freedom means. And realize, if you don't know, that the very small percentage of acts like the Jonas Brothers that hit it big (which nowadays only means a platinum record), obscure the fact that the "establishment"'s support is no guarantee that you will be successful. You only hear about the few that are.
And if you really knew the youth of today, at the very least those outside your reality, you'd know that they enjoy a wide variety of music.
The cry of the hopeless has always been - "they (whoever they are) are being dumbed down."
PULLEEEEZZE !
The only dumbing down is the elitist snot attitude that derides others by believing in a baffling sense of self superiority based on criteria chosen by yourself.
I say that prog is intelligent, and I like prog, therefore I am intelligent.
The real world operates like this - I listen to  prog, because I like prog , and therefore I like to listen to prog. Period.!!!!!

Floydian42 wrote: I don't know about any of you guys, but the huge thing in my school is Hardcore and Scene. I think this stuff bothers me more then the normal Jonas Brothers or Nickelback because the musicians in hardcore bands can truly play there instrument. They understand scales and harmonics, and instead of using there ability tastefully, they thrash on there instrument and drown out any interesting sound with screaming. I guess what makes a genre respectable in a music sense is it's ability to produce different emotions in there music. Things like Hardcore, Reggae, or crazy raw indie music could never create more then one emotion. Basic pop, and even hip hop can vary! I can stand those style's sparingly, but I can't even usually get through an album because I'm too anxious for something different.

You are a f**king a****le dude. Are you really trashing on an entire genre of music because you don't like it? I'm not a fan of hardcore either, because I don't like how it sounds so incredibly samey, but there are decent bands out there, just like in every genre, there's good/bad/same sounding throughout each album. Also, reggae and indie are very versatile genres, indie in particular has a huge number of bands in it.

DJPuffyLemon wrote: Floydian42 wrote: I don't know about any of you guys, but the huge thing in my school is Hardcore and Scene. I think this stuff bothers me more then the normal Jonas Brothers or Nickelback because the musicians in hardcore bands can truly play there instrument. They understand scales and harmonics, and instead of using there ability tastefully, they thrash on there instrument and drown out any interesting sound with screaming. I guess what makes a genre respectable in a music sense is it's ability to produce different emotions in there music. Things like Hardcore, Reggae, or crazy raw indie music could never create more then one emotion. Basic pop, and even hip hop can vary! I can stand those style's sparingly, but I can't even usually get through an album because I'm too anxious for something different. You are a f**king a****le dude. Are you really trashing on an entire genre of music because you don't like it? I'm not a fan of hardcore either, because I don't like how it sounds so incredibly samey, but there are decent bands out there, just like in every genre, there's good/bad/same sounding throughout each album. Also, reggae and indie are very versatile genres, indie in particular has a huge number of bands in it.

When I said "crazy raw indie music" I was just referring to one small segment of the indie music scene, of course I didn't mean the entire genre of indie music, indie is incredibly versatile.

Though Reggae I stand by. I have a friend who is deep into reggae, and shows me plenty of music from all different artist, and I don't agree that it's very versatile. The music is either fun and upbeat, or relaxed. No matter what, it always gives off that positive cheery vibe. That's all I've ever heard it do, and thats why I decided to attack it.
Same basic concept for all the other genre's I attacked, I criticized them for not varying in sound enough. I guess to more refine my point it is more accurate to attack the artist who stick to the same sound with each release. As much as a hate hard metal and screaming, I love Opeth. I respect there musicianship.

So don't get me wrong, when I was attacking the genre's, I guess I was really going after the artists who are clumped in them, not the sound it made. I was just frustrated in the utter lack of creativity (with exceptions) that resulted in these scenes of music.