Kids and Music.

rogerthat wrote: PetrucciPal wrote: I think this world would be a better place if kids my age listened to progressive rock music rather than their silly break up songs. Just thought I'd clear things up a bit. So yeah, maybe having kids listen to prog rock is a sort of bad thing, considering the fact that prog wouldn't be as underground as it is (I guess some people like that concept?). Buuuuuuut, if kids listening to it WERE the case, then we progaholics wouldn't be as oppose to listening to the radio! =D At this point, I can't say which of you, PROGMONSTER and Davetheslave was the best thing to happen to PA, but congrats anyway.   I'd try explaining things to you, but I can't see the point of it anymore. Instead, I will leave you with a question: do you think you could have leapt out of your cradle and straight ahead for that Dream Theater CD?  There's a time and place for everything. As for not listening to prog being somehow a bad thing for the world, I won't even bother.

^it take practice dear. jut like you can't start with calculus in first grade, you have to learn arithmetic first.

i wouldn't be listening to magma and naked city now if i haven't tarted with Russian pop, Abba and the Beatles.  you start with the primitive and then work your way to appreciating more complex stuff. kid need to be pointed in the right direction so they develop a good taste and eventually start listening to serious music.

The problem i that as of now thats not happening. The music kids are exposed to in pop culture point them anywhere but in the right direction so they end up listening to bring me the horizon instead of dream theater

The Miracle wrote: Epignosis wrote: Since when did our music become a religion we felt we needed to convert people to? we're jut being snobs. it's human nature.

The Miracle wrote: Epignosis wrote: Since when did our music become a religion we felt we needed to convert people to? we're jut being snobs. it's human nature.

so is pop muzak

mrcozdude wrote: Mousoleum wrote: Prog-anger. Been there. Don't worry, it eventually leads to acceptance, then you stop caring and get into jazz. Seen it a thousand times. It's nice here, chin up!   Hahahaha it's exactly what happened to me.

Me three!!!

I've got the noose ready ... do we hang ourselves with our words of artistic wisdom, or others because of their musical limitations ?
If a 60 year old is still listening to punk, and enjoying his favourite music, I say more power (and likely volume) to them.
Appreciation of any art form, no matter its' "critical" appraisal is not a mark of superiority, nor an indication of intelligence.
Hitler listened to Wagner. Clinton listens to Fleetwood Mac. And Blair liked Oasis. Me , I listen to my wife. And good music.

moshkito wrote: Hi,   You obviously have not heard The Portsmouth Symphony .. to even come close to what a kid can really do ... and even make you cry for being so indecent and laughing.   My opinion is that even us as adults and composers we need a lot more of the kid in us ... and hopefully that would kill some of the crass commericalism displayed in this board and its discussions.   Thx

Slartibartfast wrote: PetrucciPal wrote:   So, I guess you're saying that you have to be at a certain maturity level to listen to prog? Age does not equal maturity. Still as an older guy, kids really do suck at music.

Entertainment = Enjoyment. If you enjoy Dun, then you are entertained when you listen to their album. You may have different reasons for feeling so, than someone who is playing Miley Cyrus's latest. But you are still looking for something to enjoy.
And as for being artistic, well ... Bach's rep was a washout for two centuries, but is now regarded as one the big boys in the europeen dead white guy music culture. So who is right about his artistic merit ? His fans from his time and this past 100 or so years, or those who, not long after his passing, let his music sink into what they believed was much deserved obscurity ?
Oh, and art is in the eye of the beholder. And no amount of University or Critical whinging about will change that.

90% of the time, I can't stand bands with singers who sound like they're under 25. Whatever it is they're singing about it always sounds like pathetic, squeaky, whiny garbage.

Also, death to the Jonas Bros. Inc.!!!