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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Raff Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2008 at 13:31
Originally posted by Lucent Lucent wrote:

The fact that the prog archives staff get more priority in review power and more space on the review page makes me sad.


Well, you used the word 'staff', which is correct in that we do WORK on behalf of the site. You should also be informed, however, of the fact that we do so completely for free, and that perhaps having more review power and space can be viewed as compensation for what we do.

Then, as Jim and Uwe pointed out, anyone who writes a number of good-quality reviews can become a Prog Reviewer, and gain access to the Collab Zone. In that, PA gives its members a lot of opportunities. I became a PR after only three months here, and was soon promoted SC.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ivan_Melgar_M Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2008 at 13:50
Raff is right, as a fact some are made Collaborators even sooner, I was recruited from another site as a Collaborator directly, but became an SC only after some months of work.
 
So don't be sad, put a bit of effort,. make some good reviews and you will surely be recruited.
 
Because up to today you have rated (No reviews) four albums, three   of Opeth with very high ratings and one Sgt Peppers (Not my favorite band or album but an icon) with one star without even taking 200 words  to justify such a low rating.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Queen By-Tor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2008 at 13:54
You guys are making me jealous, it took me two years to become a collaborator
 
 
 
Although i remember complaining about the same thing. Like they said, the best thing you can do it write some kick ass reviews and hope that someone takes notice and promotes you!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote The Quiet One Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 26 2008 at 15:14
^it took me 3 weeks to become a Senior Member, and I'm proud of itTongueLOL
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ExittheLemming Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2009 at 07:52
Just a general observation, but I actually find it easier to write a review of an album that I think really sucks, compared to one I love unconditionally. Why this should be so I am unsure, so does anyone else have a similar experience (or a contrary one ?)

I guess I just run out of superlatives for the good (but seem to have a bottomless well of invective ?!)

This phenomenon probably says as much about me the reviewer, as it does about the music...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ricochet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2009 at 08:01
A smaller or bigger amount of restraint should influence you in both cases - restraining from writing a "dumb", "adulatory" review (in case you love the album), or restraining from turning vulgar and offensive on the opposite side.

I guess, though, that the "hatred" for the despised album can loosen a bit from that restraint, allowing the harsh words to flow. Meanwhile, the supreme appreciation of an album can induce the need to write something really special, which takes longer.

And there's of course the thing of being easier to see the flaws (or even nit-pick, if you're out of inspiration or pretentious) rather than "seeing the beauty of it" or the valuable side.

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Sure, even so, both extremes (panning an album or giving it six stars out of 5 without a lot of professionalism) can happen.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Easy Livin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2009 at 09:47
I consciously changed my reviewing style in the last year or so, as I felt I was becoming too negative (an attribute I think I shared with some other prolific reviewers).
 
I took a leaf out of the great reviews of Gatot, and I now try to look for the positive in albums, even if they don't appeal that much. I have found by doing that, I actually find overall I enjoy what I listen to much more these days.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ricochet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2009 at 10:28
That's curious, I actually want to "inhibit" a bit of my positive appreciating (I guess closing in on Sean Trane's exigence or Zowie Ziggy's more "discontent" style), because, the more I venture into the prog rock catalogue (and I did made a bit step regarding that the year that just ended), the more I discover that not everything is as good as expected, not to mention that, however sad it sounds, masterpieces are indeed something (to say it least) special - so I would rather point out the valuable stuff. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote debrewguy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2009 at 12:53
Yes, but sometimes pointing out the mediocraties is good. I stumbled up Orion. The album is O.K., and would likely go over well with the hard core Symphonic fan. But if you're had the chance to listen to it, and found it average at best, it does PA well. I find that some relatively  obscure acts (Eloy as an example, not to opine on the quality of music) gets rather high ratings. And I figure that part of that is due to some folks picking them up based on the ratings or reviews, not liking them, and not bothering to follow up with their own opinion.

It's like when I go to Harmony Central or Ulitmate Guitar for some info on a piece of musical gear - I pass over most of the raves (i.e. - this solid state Marshall MG15 beats all other amps out there. Period), and take note of the negative ones to see what to look for before buying, or better , while trying out the piece of equipment.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote kenethlevine Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 04 2009 at 15:50
interesting discussion.  I'm much more interested in reviewing something that is either little known or that is well known and I have an alternate opinion to the norm.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ExittheLemming Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2009 at 01:29
Yep I agree with kenethlevine and found that having gotten over reviewing the classic discs from say 69 - 75 in my collection, I feel compelled to promote (or relegate) some of the more obscure prog that I have stumbled upon. After all, if Close to the the Edge (which I like) has garnered >900 reviews, what chance is there of the curious visitor to this site getting to learn about Maxophone, Bram Stoker, Quill, Residents, Ethos, Runaway Totem etc ?

Although I have certainly given a few discs a right damn good kicking, I have (wherever possible) striven to accentuate what little positives or merit I can find in these releases...(OK apart from Matching Mole, but Lemmings and filthy welfare scrounging Moles are sworn enemies)

I do think that (sincere) negative reviews of avowed "masterpieces" are necessary for balance on PA, as they are currently the only counterweight to the seemingly inexaustible deluge of 5 star reviews that proliferate on the site. Such enthusiasm and affection for an album I do not wish to undermine, but have to question the application of flimsy criteria in arriving at a rating. What I do find patricularly tiresome are those 5 star ratings of an album where the reviewer admits that one, or a couple of tracks appear that he/she does not care for at all ? How can 5 stars accomodate such glaring flaws ?

- Apart from the sloppy ceiling, you've done a grand job with the Sistine Chapel Michael - Wink

For me, a 5 star album is one where there are NO weak tracks or FILLER. To date I think I have only given five albums a 'full house"


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Failcore Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2009 at 01:41
There's a bunch of reviews on the front page right now that are just copies of each other. Dunno if it's someone who's lazy or is just having fun at y'all's expense, but they should prolly be removed.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Easy Livin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2009 at 03:35
Have they gone now?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2009 at 03:37
I still see them.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Easy Livin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2009 at 03:44
OK, I'm on the case.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Angelo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2009 at 04:06
I have a feeling Mr. Zarathustra is going to loose a few reviews over this - if Bob decides to stop there....
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote ExittheLemming Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2009 at 04:17
Thus shutteth up Zarathustra
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DamoXt7942 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2009 at 04:19
Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:

I have a feeling Mr. Zarathustra is going to loose a few reviews over this - if Bob decides to stop there....
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Thus shutteth up Zarathustra
 
Wow, very strict...
But makes sense... Confused
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Atavachron Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 05 2009 at 04:20
OK enough already, he probably doesn't realize this isn't the way to review, I think Admin is on it


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Things must go on as Angelo said...Confused
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