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Posted: December 19 2008 at 22:57

I'd say that while Big Ben isn't having his best year statistically he gets the job done with the game on the line which should make him a contender but with everyone in football jumping on this Colts bandwagon the award will go to Peyton, the league will not shake its crush on the Manning family

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Posted: December 19 2008 at 16:30

Warner's right up there as a contender, no doubt.

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Posted: December 19 2008 at 16:29

I was behind Brees all the way earlier this season, but now I'm not so sure...he hasn't played at that same level for the second half. There's nobody clear right now. I'd probably take Kurt over anybody else; I loved Kurt during his prime with the Rams, and it's unbelievable that he's again playing at the same level he was at during the Greatest Show on Turf.

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Posted: December 19 2008 at 16:28

rushfan4 wrote:

Behind Orlovsky and Thigpen???

They're two games away from another type of award. Tongue

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Posted: December 19 2008 at 16:23

Behind Orlovsky and Thigpen???

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Posted: December 19 2008 at 16:22

If I had to pick an MVP it would probably be Drew Brees.

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Posted: December 19 2008 at 16:20

It's absurd to call him the MVP when he's only played half a season like a competent NFL quarterback. Besides, he's probably no better than the third-best QB in the NFL right now.

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Posted: December 19 2008 at 15:28

Norv Turner is a great coordinator I wouldnt call him even a good head coach

and just to rant for a sec:

For all those dunces on TV kissing Peyton Manning's butt yet again and calling for another MVP, I have two words: Cleveland game

the "MVP" almost single handedly lost this game, to one of the worst teams in the league, only to be saved by his defense

Time always wins.

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Posted: December 18 2008 at 21:58

This is a tough season for Turner; he lost his best player on defense, and his best player on offense hasn't been himself this year.

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Posted: December 18 2008 at 13:28

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Norv Turner and Mike Shanahan particularly jump off the page as quality head coaches (tough to argue with Shanahan's rings) who were fired prematurely by Davis.

Yeah....can't agree with you there.

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Posted: December 18 2008 at 13:21

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Lay off my Raiders!

Al does need to bring in someone for player evaluation. He said he would at Kiffin's press conference so we will see. Jamarcus needs a couple of NFL type receivers to throw too. I think he falls down because he is anticipating them to be in a place and they haven't got there yet so he hesitates and when he throws he is already off balance. The dude has serious skills and he is only 23. The Raider need an O-line as well.

Lets see:

Bill Callahan (Ask Nebraska about him)

Norv Turner

Art Shell

Lane Kiffin

Which one of these guys should not have been fired? Of course they shouldn't have been hired in the first place.

As for Rugby I have had this argument here before. You don't run full speed when you hit in Rugby. Try starting off at the end of your driveway and run full force into the garage door 28-35 times and see if you won't put on pads for the next time.

Norv Turner and Mike Shanahan particularly jump off the page as quality head coaches (tough to argue with Shanahan's rings) who were fired prematurely by Davis.

Shannon was fired because the players complained to Davis about him. He was trying to install the west Coast offense on a team that was just a couple years away from the Superbowl and they hated it. Oakland always had relaxed practice players sitting on thier helmets and such and Shannahan was trying to instill discipline which they had got on fine without. He won two superbowls with John Elway and has been very mixed without him.

Norv Turner is overrated all the way. He tanked in Washington he tanked in Oakland and he is tanking in San Diego. How does this make him a quality head coach?

"What are you going to do when that damn thing rusts?"

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Posted: December 18 2008 at 02:14

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Not denying the toughness of rugby players, but I'd love to see you say that to a linebacker or offensive lineman. You'll be a troll crapping out his own broken teeth for two weeks.

E

Say it to Ray Lewis and cold steel in your gut will be the last thing you feel, the sidewalk outside a nightclub the last thing you see

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Posted: December 17 2008 at 21:12

Garion81 wrote:

Lay off my Raiders!

Al does need to bring in someone for player evaluation. He said he would at Kiffen's press conference so we will see. Jamarcus needs a couple of NFL type receivers to throw too. I think he falls down because he is anticipating them to be in a place and they haven't got there yet so he hesitates and when he throws he is already off balance. The dude has serious skills and he is only 23. The Raider need an O-line as well.

Lets see:

Bill Callahan (Ask Nebraska about him)

Norv Turner

Art Shell

Lane Kiffin

Which one of these guys should not have been fired? Of course they shouldn't have been hired in the first place.

Norv Turner and Mike Shanahan particularly jump off the page as quality head coaches (tough to argue with Shanahan's rings) who were fired prematurely by Davis.

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Posted: December 17 2008 at 20:08

Not problems on this end.

We're actually optimistic here in KC with the firing (he said he resigned, but reports say that he was fired) of Carl Peterson. Marty Schottenheimer was flown in last night, but they believe it was to consult with Clark Hunt. Clark and Marty spent a lot of time together while he coached the Chiefs and are very good friends.

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Posted: December 17 2008 at 18:29

No offense taken.,Eric LOL

I still love 'em.

BUT

They are seriously in trouble.

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Posted: December 17 2008 at 18:08

^^Didn't say anything inflammatory. It's OK to admit that your teams needs help. Hell, it's OK to admit that your team sucks canal water. Miami has proven that it is possible to go from last to first in a season, though.

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Posted: December 17 2008 at 16:24

Lay off my Raiders!

Lets see:

Bill Callahan (Ask Nebraska about him)

Norv Turner

Art Shell

Lane Kiffin

Which one of these guys should not have been fired? Of course they shouldn't have been hired in the first place.

"What are you going to do when that damn thing rusts?"

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Posted: December 17 2008 at 07:43

Not denying the toughness of rugby players, but I'd love to see you say that to a linebacker or offensive lineman. You'll be a troll crapping out his own broken teeth for two weeks.

E

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Posted: December 16 2008 at 15:28

Why cant you play Rugby like real men???? Why do you need all the kit to take a tackle???? And all those passes are forward!!!!!!!

Last one out Switch off the Internet!

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Posted: December 15 2008 at 22:35

Every two years, he fires his head coach and he wonders why none of them win. It's a bad roster and he never gives his coach a chance to get a feel for it. I laugh every time I see highlights of JaMarcus Russell because its absolutely hilarious that the second-highest paid QB in the league has footwork so bad he falls down after he throws the ball....without getting hit.