How can metal be prog?

I've always known prog to be rock music played in a jazz/classical format. Eg. mainly jazz/classical melodies with jazz like guitar/drums/bass and classical keys. It's melody based music with a very even contribution of jazz/classical based instruments such as the usual guitar, bass and drums plus plenty of wind, brass and keys. The guitar is quite often background guitar chipping in within a complex melody or rythm and the drums have plenty of cymbal and snare work, while the bass is busy and really has alot of control of the melody. This music is interesting for many listens because of the melodies and the instruments along with the complexity. This was named PROG by the critics. But metal is the complete opposite. guitar dominated music, usually rythm and riff based where the guitar is up front and louder, the bass tends to just hold the rythm together rather than control it and the drums are mainly based on the toms and keeps the rythm interesting enough until you get bored of it after 2 listens , while there is almost a complete lack of keys. This is metal, but someone called it prog because it's being inventive. But i never thought about prog as being inventive, it's just exciting and it seemed inventive in 1970 because it wasn't standard hard rock

PROGMONSTER2008 wrote: I've always known prog to be rock music played in a jazz/classical format. Eg. mainly jazz/classical melodies with jazz like guitar/drums/bass and classical keys. It's melody based music with a very even contribution of jazz/classical based instruments such as the usual guitar, bass and drums plus plenty of wind, brass and keys. The guitar is quite often background guitar chipping in within a complex melody or rythm and the drums have plenty of cymbal and snare work, while the bass is busy and really has alot of control of the melody. This music is interesting for many listens because of the melodies and the instruments along with the complexity. This was named PROG by the critics. But metal is the complete opposite. guitar dominated music, usually rythm and riff based where the guitar is up front and louder, the bass tends to just hold the rythm together rather than control it and the drums are mainly based on the toms and keeps the rythm interesting enough until you get bored of it after 2 listens , while there is almost a complete lack of keys. This is metal, but someone called it prog because it's being inventive. But i never thought about prog as being inventive, it's just exciting and it seemed inventive in 1970 because it wasn't standard hard rock

Music, or indeed, prog does not have to be melodic.
Anyway, there is pretty much already a topic on this subject.

Most prog is riff and rhythm based. What difference does it make if the guitars are heavily distorted- eg DT POS, even those like Neal morse use heavily distorted guitars to effect (and Yes, before Steve forgot that he had distortion pedals). Guess you have to like guitars.

PROGMONSTER2008 wrote: NaturalScience wrote: 1.  Obtain a copy of Dream Theater - Images & Words 2.  Listen to it. 3.  Report back.   Dream theatre are like Bonjovi meets Gentle Giant. You won't get much enjoyment from that apart from complexity

If you don't find prog in that album, I don't think there's much more that can be discussed.

Seriously, I can't imagine anything good coming out of this thread.
It will just be pointing fingers and bickering.

PROGMONSTER2008 wrote: NaturalScience wrote: 1.  Obtain a copy of Dream Theater - Images & Words 2.  Listen to it. 3.  Report back.   Dream theatre are like Bonjovi meets Gentle Giant. You won't get much enjoyment from that apart from complexity

mmmm..... It's that time of the year when people start losing it... I guess it's in the water... there's a conspiracy going on.... the goverment puts phosphoric acid in the water some people drink... so that they create the most USELESS threads ever....

The T wrote: mmmm..... It's that time of the year when people start losing it... I guess it's in the water... there's a conspiracy going on.... the goverment puts phosphoric acid in the water some people drink... so that they create the most USELESS threads ever....

PROGMONSTER2008 wrote: The T wrote: mmmm..... It's that time of the year when people start losing it... I guess it's in the water... there's a conspiracy going on.... the goverment puts phosphoric acid in the water some people drink... so that they create the most USELESS threads ever....   Your signature pic is completely Non Prog

Seriously, that is enough, PROGMONSTERS.

I was 100 per cent correct in believing this thread would descend down to the deepest depths of stupidity and uselessness.
You've made this thread purely just to incite angry responses and you know it, don't try to hide away from that.

What is going on here today?  First "Korn is prog" and now this....