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Points: 66555 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2008 at 11:12
I just read the band's PA bio, and they were described as uncategorizable or something to that effect.  If they were to be moved, the bio would definitely have to be re-written, since it kind of centers around them being kind of zeuhl but kind of not. LOL
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2008 at 11:12
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

You have the power to politic for it, but probably not the power to do it.



Nor would I dream of doing something like that unilaterally even if I could, hence the wink.

I'd need approval from both teams, but it's hard to get a response from ZART.  Wink
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I don't really hear Magma in there, nor Hatfield, to be honest...

Sometimes - and now I'm going to sound really crazy - I wonder if Kultivator may have influenced Koenjihyakkei a bit.  No, really - it's obviously far, far gentler and more pastoral, but of course almost all music is gentler and more pastoral than Koenji...  I don't know why, but it always reminds me just a tiny bit (for some unidentifiable reason) of our Japanese noisemakin' friends. Ermm
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2008 at 11:19
Now that I'm listening to "Novarest" I maybe can hear some Zeuhl here, but overall I just don't hear it.  No question it's a tough band to pin down - the reviews bear that out, and I see plenty of Canterbury references sprinkled throughout, so it's clear that those who have heard the album are probably hearing the same things I'm hearing. 
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2008 at 11:20
Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:


I don't know why, but it always reminds me just a tiny bit (for some unidentifiable reason) of our Japanese noisemakin' friends. Ermm


Hmm.  Never thought about that, but I think I can hear what you mean.
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2008 at 11:24
Time for lunch!
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Points: 1065 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2008 at 11:27
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

I don't know why, but it always reminds me just a tiny bit (for some unidentifiable reason) of our Japanese noisemakin' friends. Ermm

Hmm.  Never thought about that, but I think I can hear what you mean.

I guess it's either the 'unclassifiable-ness' of both, or maybe they're both '[Insert Subgenre']/Canterbury' hybrids of a sort!! Tongue  (That is, Yoshida likes Canterbury also, yes?)  That, and maybe a slight touch of indigenous folk music??  Very difficult to pin down... Confused LOL

Well, I'm off now, too.  Back later, possibly...
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Area. Is jazz-rock/fusion the correct place?

I'd say it's avant-fusion-RPI personally Big smile
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Shouldn't Rush be classified under, "pure, unfiltered awesome"?
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Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

Shouldn't Rush be classified under, "pure, unfiltered awesome"?

I thought they already were...ooooh, you mean here on PA...Wink
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Points: 10665 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2008 at 11:38
Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

Shouldn't Rush be classified under, "pure, unfiltered awesome"?


Posers, all of them!
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Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

Shouldn't Rush be classified under, "pure, unfiltered awesome"?


Posers, all of them!

Tongue
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Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

Shouldn't Rush be classified under, "pure, unfiltered awesome"?


Posers, all of them!


Shocked How dare thee?

I challenge you to a duel!!
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Points: 10665 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2008 at 11:40
Originally posted by birdwithteeth11 birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

Shouldn't Rush be classified under, "pure, unfiltered awesome"?


Posers, all of them!

Tongue


Yes, yes. I know. I love them.
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2008 at 11:43
Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

Area. Is jazz-rock/fusion the correct place?



Nope.  Tongue
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Points: 10665 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2008 at 11:45
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

Area. Is jazz-rock/fusion the correct place?



Nope.  Tongue


They'd be in my dream RPI sub, but we don't have it, so I'm guessing you're for avant?
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2008 at 11:51
Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

Area. Is jazz-rock/fusion the correct place?



Nope.  Tongue


They'd be in my dream RPI sub, but we don't have it, so I'm guessing you're for avant?


Yes, but only because the current Italian genre is called "Italian Symphonic Prog", which won't do for a band like Area at all.  If there were some more general RPI sub I'd vote for that in a heartbeat.
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2008 at 11:51
Re: Kultivator

I'd like to see them in RIO/Avant-Prog rather than Zeuhl or Canterbury.

They don't have enough Zeuhl or Canterbury in their sound but they're obviously strongly avant-prog.

Hence: RIO/Avant-prog

Which is what Henry Cow are.  Henry Cow are also Canterbury, of course.

Some might argue that Hugh Hopper's bass work with Soft Machine is quite Zeuhlish too.

Music is so fun to destroy in terms of categorisation!

Melissa, I shall message you soon about Friday... I've yet to even check the route or anything yet.

Edit: never use yet twice in the same sentence


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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2008 at 11:52
We need that CanteRIO sub.  Wink
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Points: 10665 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 02 2008 at 11:55
Hey!

James, nice to see you.
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