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Poll Question: What do you think of the album?
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bad. not terrible, but definitely not just mediocre. especially considering the 17 release dates over the past 17 years. blah. 
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Originally posted by Visitor13 Visitor13 wrote:

Originally posted by BroSpence BroSpence wrote:

I'll be the first to say it is terrible.  The critics seem to be loving it for some reason.  One critic even said he loved it because of all the stupid stuff Axl did.  Which is awful reasoning to give it an A- review.


Terrible in general or by G'n'R standards though? I couldn't take listening to more than one song ('Street of Dreams'), but it didn't sound significantly worse than most of the stuff from Use Your Illusion.


Both.  I generally think G n' R were pretty awful, but the music on this album is just terrible.  Its dated (not in a good way), overly predictable.  Every song has the exact same structure of "lets make each song the combination of all the elements the hits had".  Axl's vocals are worse then ever and totally drenched with autotune.  The lyrics are no exception either, but were they ever? yeah.  REALLLY REALLY DO NOT like G n R.  past or present.
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Points: 16715 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2008 at 02:03
I don't like GnR either, but I thought this was a fascinating review.

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I voted "bad", the title track and "Better" ate decent songs..which made it not "terrible".
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Points: 4702 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2008 at 13:19
Originally posted by BroSpence BroSpence wrote:

Originally posted by Visitor13 Visitor13 wrote:

Originally posted by BroSpence BroSpence wrote:

I'll be the first to say it is terrible.  The critics seem to be loving it for some reason.  One critic even said he loved it because of all the stupid stuff Axl did.  Which is awful reasoning to give it an A- review.


Terrible in general or by G'n'R standards though? I couldn't take listening to more than one song ('Street of Dreams'), but it didn't sound significantly worse than most of the stuff from Use Your Illusion.


Both.  I generally think G n' R were pretty awful, but the music on this album is just terrible.  Its dated (not in a good way), overly predictable.  Every song has the exact same structure of "lets make each song the combination of all the elements the hits had".  Axl's vocals are worse then ever and totally drenched with autotune.  The lyrics are no exception either, but were they ever? yeah.  REALLLY REALLY DO NOT like G n R.  past or present.


OK. I do wonder how the album will sell. Whether the non-diehard fans will buy it in any significant numbers.
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I'm choosing to be very unpopular here and vote that it's a masterpiece.

You can't look at this CD from a prog perspective - it's purely a minstream release, and the most ambitious hard rock album to come along in more than a decade. I agree that Axl is annoying, and will doubtlessly fill the music news headlines with reports of not showing up for shows, last-minute cancellations, etc. But the songs, performances, and production on this are all top-notch, for the genre and audience that it was intended for.

That being said, I'd rather listen to Yes or Karmakanic. But for what it is intended, it's brilliant.
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Points: 4702 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2008 at 16:02
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

I don't like GnR either, but I thought this was a fascinating review.


I guess the stack of comments underneath is even more fascinating. A quick glance at the top one-third was enough to melt my brain through my eye sockets,
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Points: 3449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2008 at 20:59
Yeah and now Axl is demanding an apology from Dr. Pepper.   Gotta keep the hype machine rolling.  When you have to bring in the lawyers this early in the game, the only conclusion is:  what a loser.
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I really don't understand, after listening to the album a couple of times, how people find this "terrible" - it sounds better to me than most drivel that's coming out this year. 
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Points: 3659 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2008 at 10:57
I haven't listened yet but when you take that long to make an album and with all the hype that's gone on over the years they're just setting themselves up for a kicking. I don't see how they could ever win. Even their diehard fans must have got p**s*d off with them years ago. Confused
 
Actually, I've just listened to 2 tracks now and mediocre springs to mind.
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Originally posted by Kotro Kotro wrote:

I really don't understand, after listening to the album a couple of times, how people find this "terrible" - it sounds better to me than most drivel that's coming out this year. 
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Originally posted by Kotro Kotro wrote:

I really don't understand, after listening to the album a couple of times, how people find this "terrible" - it sounds better to me than most drivel that's coming out this year. 


I certainly at least agree with that.
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Points: 6898 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2008 at 22:11
I listened to it in a deserted HMV store today. Another nice album to help 14 year olds to remember their high school puberty days from and if this isn't the demographic it's aimed at I'll be a Monkey's uncle. They weren't flying out of the store and people weren't queing up to the listening post. Much better than Slash's Snake Pit crap. At least it's better than the new AC DC album which just sticks to the old formula.   
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Points: 799 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 29 2008 at 23:09
Originally posted by Kotro Kotro wrote:

I really don't understand, after listening to the album a couple of times, how people find this "terrible" - it sounds better to me than most drivel that's coming out this year. 


Of the seven "terrible" votes, I would be willing to bet my own copy of the CD that 6 of them never heard it -- it's just too much fun to insult this CD...

Asking about a mainstream hard rock release on a prog forum is like starting a Magma thread on Clay Aiken's forum!
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Points: 6898 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 30 2008 at 01:14
It's definitely going to sell more copies than Magma ever did in their whole career ! One thing that suprised me was the more mellow sections with keyboards. I didn't see the credits but it could be Axle himself. I remember him getting up and playing the piano on a cover version of Black Sabbath's She's Gone( from Technical Ecstasy ).
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Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

...One thing that suprised me was the more mellow sections with keyboards. I didn't see the credits but it could be Axle himself. I remember him getting up and playing the piano on a cover version of Black Sabbath's She's Gone( from Technical Ecstasy ).


Hmmm...do you think there's enough keyboards to start an entertaining thread suggesting that Chinese Democracy be added to Prog-Related/Proto-Prog? Tongue
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Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Well, I've heard it once. I can honestly say, China has found democracy.
 
The album is good. It has some weaker moments but in general is a very recommended buy for fans of rock, hard rock and light metal.
 
And, yes, song 3 ("better") does sound like DT somewhat...ConfusedConfused


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