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Points: 32181 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2008 at 21:13
Originally posted by MrEdifus MrEdifus wrote:

Awake is actually my favorite, then Images and Words. Then Systematic Chaos. And then SFAM.


I'm the only SFAM fanboy. Cry

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Points: 25210 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2008 at 21:13
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Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

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I&W is very good, it just didn't quite blow me away on the same level. It's really a shame that their last 3 albums haven't been that good.


Ahem...........Last two albums.

Yep. I've never understood why Train of Thought gets so much garbage on this site. To me, it's simply DT exploring a different aspect of their music, and quite effectively I might add. I've always thought the "well it's their most Metallica-like album" is a BS excuse, because I definitely hear a fair amount of Metallica influence on Awake too.


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Points: 32181 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2008 at 21:14
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Wow.  Winter Songs just completely blew me away.  Art Bears just took a huge leap in my book of awesomeness.


You make me want to hear them more. Angry
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2008 at 21:15
Now I'm listening to Train of Thought.  LOL

And yes, "This Dying Soul" still freaking pwns.
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Points: 25210 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2008 at 21:15
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Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkuGfzNziBw

Christ!

It's supposed to be an instructional thing, but they play so sloppyLOL
There are out of tune notes, and completely missed notesLOL


Dragonforce lol.


As they say "I went to a Dragonforce guitar clinic today"

"Ohh, what did you teach them?"

lol.
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Points: 24598 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2008 at 21:15
Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Anyone that calls Train Of Thought the most Metallica inspired album has
A: not actually heard Metallica before
B: knows nothing about Dream Theater
C: In fact does not know anything about metal.

Images and Words has clear Metallica thrash metal influence.
Train Of Thought is quite clearly influenced by more extreme metal bands and groove metal.

And the albums which influenced Dream Theater's thrash elements (i.e, Metallica's first four albums) ARE NOT GROOVE METAL ALBUMS FOR CHRISTSAKE PEOPLE.

I want to scream everytime I see a Train Of Thought review comparing it to Metallica.
It seems those reviewers have never heard of Pantera or similar groove metal bands.
And for god sake, Pantera is not exactly an unknown band, they are pretty popular too.



If people on here think that Metallica used groove metal in their first 4 albums, then LMAOLOLLOLLOL
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Points: 32181 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2008 at 21:16
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Now I'm listening to Train of Thought.  LOL

And yes, "This Dying Soul" still freaking pwns.


It's crazy what PA discussions do to your recently heard albums. LOL
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Points: 24598 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2008 at 21:17
Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkuGfzNziBw

Christ!

It's supposed to be an instructional thing, but they play so sloppyLOL
There are out of tune notes, and completely missed notesLOL


Dragonforce lol.


As they say "I went to a Dragonforce guitar clinic today"

"Ohh, what did you teach them?"

lol.
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Points: 32181 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2008 at 21:17
Haha, nice. LOL

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Points: 25210 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2008 at 21:18
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:



Funny thing is, it took me a while to get into ToT, at first I did think it was sort of a garbage shred-fest, but one day I was playing it (I can even remember, I was in the basement of my old house cleaning things up, getting ready to sell the place) and for some reason it clicked and I was totally blown away.  "This Dying Soul" is just a total pwn.



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Points: 1263 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2008 at 21:18
Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkuGfzNziBw

Christ!

It's supposed to be an instructional thing, but they play so sloppyLOL
There are out of tune notes, and completely missed notesLOL


Dragonforce lol.


As they say "I went to a Dragonforce guitar clinic today"

"Ohh, what did you teach them?"

lol.

"I taught Herman how to tune his guitar. And I taught Sam how to try playing while SOBER."

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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2008 at 21:19
Damn!  This could easily spawn a DT marathon!  LOL
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Points: 32181 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2008 at 21:19
Originally posted by MrEdifus MrEdifus wrote:

Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkuGfzNziBw

Christ!

It's supposed to be an instructional thing, but they play so sloppyLOL
There are out of tune notes, and completely missed notesLOL


Dragonforce lol.


As they say "I went to a Dragonforce guitar clinic today"

"Ohh, what did you teach them?"

lol.

"I taught Herman how to tune his guitar. And I taught Sam how to try playing while SOBER."


LOLLOLLOL
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Points: 32181 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2008 at 21:20
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Damn!  This could easily spawn a DT marathon!  LOL


Yay PA peer influence! LOL

I'm not sure what I'll listen to after SFAM.
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Points: 25210 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2008 at 21:21
I shall still refrain to listening to DT.
And I shall avant garde it up with Kayo Dot.
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Points: 24598 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2008 at 21:22
Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

I shall still refrain to listening to DT.
And I shall avant garde it up with Kayo Dot.

I've only listened to "Choirs" once so far and I thought "Meh" afterwards. I need to listen to KD more though.
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2008 at 21:22
re: Metallica, I will say I think LaBrie does a "Hetfield" vocal at times (on this track, he did that and also something that sounded a bit like Mustaine), but that's the sole influence of Metallica I can detect.
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Points: 32181 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2008 at 21:22
Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

I shall still refrain to listening to DT.
And I shall avant garde it up with Kayo Dot.


I need to hear them, but for some reason they're not an extremely urgent listen for me. I need Art Bears and other ones first.
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2008 at 21:23
I'm totally "air shredding" along with PETROOCHI!   LOL
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Points: 32181 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2008 at 21:23
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

re: Metallica, I will say I think LaBrie does a "Hetfield" vocal at times (on this track, he did that and also something that sounded a bit like Mustaine), but that's the sole influence of Metallica I can detect.


Yeah, same here. I don't detect any other more straight-up Metallica influence in ToT than in other albums.
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