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Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

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And also, something about SFAM is slightly lacking compared to I&W.
I always feel more inspired listening to I&W than I do SFAM.
It's like I can almost feel how the band was so youthful and inspired for I&W, can't think of any other way to describe it.


I feel the opposite; I am so much more inspired listening to SFAM than I am I&W. Images and Words is just a solid album to me, nothing more.

SFAM is packed full of an amazing concept, emotions, and much more mature playing.


I see what you mean dude and can understand why you might like it more than I do.
I used to like SFAM more back in 2006.
But after a while, I realized just because it was a concept album, I couldn't keep telling myself I enjoyed it more than I&W, because I came to realize in the end I&W was the more emotional, inspiring experience for me.



Well, our tastes aren't THAT similar anyway. SFAM is more my type of music.

Your musical compatibility with HughesJB4 is Medium

Music you have in common includes Porcupine Tree, Meshuggah, The Mars Volta, Frank Zappa and Opeth.

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Alex, save up enough to get the HC box set and the three Art Bears albums.  Tongue


I'm definitely going to try. Big smile

You think I'll still have no trouble getting the boxset late December/early January?


Hopefully not, it won't actually be released until the end of the year; they're still taking pre-orders.  I'll probably order mine when my credit card flips over in early December - if it gets here in time for Christmas it's a Christmas present, if not no worries.
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Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

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Alex, save up enough to get the HC box set and the three Art Bears albums.  Tongue


I'm definitely going to try. Big smile

You think I'll still have no trouble getting the boxset late December/early January?


Hopefully not, it won't actually be released until the end of the year; they're still taking pre-orders.  I'll probably order mine when my credit card flips over in early December - if it gets here in time for Christmas it's a Christmas present, if not no worries.


Oh, okay. That should be fine then.

The whole concept of pre-orders can be kinda stupid at times though.
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Dream Theater is currently at number 51 in my last FM list:P
Proof of how little I listen to them now.
And when I do throw on I&W, it's usually when I'm in my bedroom with the CD, so that obviously doesn't count towards Last FM plays.
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Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

And also, something about SFAM is slightly lacking compared to I&W.
I always feel more inspired listening to I&W than I do SFAM.
It's like I can almost feel how the band was so youthful and inspired for I&W, can't think of any other way to describe it.


I feel the opposite; I am so much more inspired listening to SFAM than I am I&W. Images and Words is just a solid album to me, nothing more.

SFAM is packed full of an amazing concept, emotions, and much more mature playing.


I see what you mean dude and can understand why you might like it more than I do.
I used to like SFAM more back in 2006.
But after a while, I realized just because it was a concept album, I couldn't keep telling myself I enjoyed it more than I&W, because I came to realize in the end I&W was the more emotional, inspiring experience for me.


Wow. That's almost exactly what happened with me. One day I was listening to SFAM and I realized to myself that I&W was an album that drew me in so much more when I listened to it. I guess it's just a personal taste thing.
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I&W is very good, it just didn't quite blow me away on the same level. It's really a shame that their last 3 albums haven't been that good.


Ahem...........Last two albums.
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According to some guy on another forumboard I go on, Kenny G > Dragonforce.
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I&W is very good, it just didn't quite blow me away on the same level. It's really a shame that their last 3 albums haven't been that good.


Ahem...........Last two albums.


Oh, good I'm not alone here.  Train of Thought kicks ass.
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This song sums up why this album strikes more of a chord with me than I&W does. It fits SO perfectly, every song is amazing and emotional, and the album really works as a unit of prog and metal (whereas I feel I&W appeals more to someone who likes metal more than someone who hardly likes any).

In short, it really touches me on a heavily personal level for some reason. Powerful music.

"I'M LEARNING ALL ABOUT MY LIFE
BY LOOKING THROUGH HER EYES!"
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Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

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I&W is very good, it just didn't quite blow me away on the same level. It's really a shame that their last 3 albums haven't been that good.


Ahem...........Last two albums.

Yep. I've never understood why Train of Thought gets so much garbage on this site. To me, it's simply DT exploring a different aspect of their music, and quite effectively I might add. I've always thought the "well it's their most Metallica-like album" is a BS excuse, because I definitely hear a fair amount of Metallica influence on Awake too.
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Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:



I&W is very good, it just didn't quite blow me away on the same level. It's really a shame that their last 3 albums haven't been that good.


Ahem...........Last two albums.


Oh, good I'm not alone here.  Train of Thought kicks ass.

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Originally posted by birdwithteeth11 birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:

Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

And also, something about SFAM is slightly lacking compared to I&W.
I always feel more inspired listening to I&W than I do SFAM.
It's like I can almost feel how the band was so youthful and inspired for I&W, can't think of any other way to describe it.


I feel the opposite; I am so much more inspired listening to SFAM than I am I&W. Images and Words is just a solid album to me, nothing more.

SFAM is packed full of an amazing concept, emotions, and much more mature playing.


I see what you mean dude and can understand why you might like it more than I do.
I used to like SFAM more back in 2006.
But after a while, I realized just because it was a concept album, I couldn't keep telling myself I enjoyed it more than I&W, because I came to realize in the end I&W was the more emotional, inspiring experience for me.


Wow. That's almost exactly what happened with me. One day I was listening to SFAM and I realized to myself that I&W was an album that drew me in so much more when I listened to it. I guess it's just a personal taste thing.


It definitely is a matter of taste, and I can often notice a pattern in someone's listening preferences (generally and some of them anyway) just by which DT album is their favorite.
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Points: 32181 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2008 at 21:09
Originally posted by birdwithteeth11 birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:



I&W is very good, it just didn't quite blow me away on the same level. It's really a shame that their last 3 albums haven't been that good.


Ahem...........Last two albums.

Yep. I've never understood why Train of Thought gets so much garbage on this site. To me, it's simply DT exploring a different aspect of their music, and quite effectively I might add. I've always thought the "well it's their most Metallica-like album" is a BS excuse, because I definitely hear a fair amount of Metallica influence on Awake too.


I never use that excuse because it is bullsh*t.

I just don't like it much. But again, that's the taste aspect. Wink
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkuGfzNziBw

Christ!

It's supposed to be an instructional thing, but they play so sloppyLOL
There are out of tune notes, and completely missed notesLOL
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 25 2008 at 21:09
Originally posted by birdwithteeth11 birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by MovingPictures07 MovingPictures07 wrote:



I&W is very good, it just didn't quite blow me away on the same level. It's really a shame that their last 3 albums haven't been that good.


Ahem...........Last two albums.

Yep. I've never understood why Train of Thought gets so much garbage on this site. To me, it's simply DT exploring a different aspect of their music, and quite effectively I might add. I've always thought the "well it's their most Metallica-like album" is a BS excuse, because I definitely hear a fair amount of Metallica influence on Awake too.


Funny thing is, it took me a while to get into ToT, at first I did think it was sort of a garbage shred-fest, but one day I was playing it (I can even remember, I was in the basement of my old house cleaning things up, getting ready to sell the place) and for some reason it clicked and I was totally blown away.  "This Dying Soul" is just a total pwn.
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I'm SO replaying that track.
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Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkuGfzNziBw

Christ!

It's supposed to be an instructional thing, but they play so sloppyLOL
There are out of tune notes, and completely missed notesLOL


Dragonforce lol.
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Awake is actually my favorite, then Images and Words. Then Systematic Chaos. And then SFAM.

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Wow.  Winter Songs just completely blew me away.  Art Bears just took a huge leap in my book of awesomeness.
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Anyone that calls Train Of Thought the most Metallica inspired album has
A: not actually heard Metallica before
B: knows nothing about Dream Theater
C: In fact does not know anything about metal.

Images and Words has clear Metallica thrash metal influence.
Train Of Thought is quite clearly influenced by more extreme metal bands and groove metal.

And the albums which influenced Dream Theater's thrash elements (i.e, Metallica's first four albums) ARE NOT GROOVE METAL ALBUMS FOR CHRISTSAKE PEOPLE.

I want to scream everytime I see a Train Of Thought review comparing it to Metallica.
It seems those reviewers have never heard of Pantera or similar groove metal bands.
And for god sake, Pantera is not exactly an unknown band, they are pretty popular too.
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