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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2008 at 18:41
I got a PhD from OSU in that LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2008 at 20:28
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

In Italy you'd be able to get Palepoli for less than 10 euros (at least this is what I saw some time ago). You could try some Italian distributors, but I'm afraid the postage and packing would add to the price. Anyway, you can try www.btf.it, which sells Palepoli for about 17 dollars.
 
Great! Thanks very much, I think I'll be getting it from there. The price is good and the shipping not so bad either (I buy CD from Europe quite often, so I don't mind that much anymore).
 
I've been looking at the critiques for the other Osanna albums on here, and they're not quite good, but do they have another "essential" album?
 
This website also has L'Uomo, Landscape of Life, Milano Calibro 9 and L'Amore Quanto Vale and since shipping is the same for 1 or 2 albums, I figure I might as well pick up another one as well...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 16 2008 at 20:35
June, here's another vendor closer to home with several Osanna titles and decent prices.

http://www.hicom.net/~dlarson/index.htm


He's a good guy too.  So is Syn-phonic that I think was already mentioned. 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2008 at 05:50
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

June, here's another vendor closer to home with several Osanna titles and decent prices.

http://www.hicom.net/~dlarson/index.htm


He's a good guy too.  So is Syn-phonic that I think was already mentioned. 



 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2008 at 08:07
My last RPI review:
 
Il Balletto di Bronzo - Sirio 2222 CD (album) cover

Sirio 2222

by IL BALLETTO DI BRONZO (Italian Symphonic Prog)

3 stars SIRIO 2222 is the FIRST album by IL BALLETTO DI BRONZO. SIRIO 2222 is a POST BEAT album. NOT KEYBOARDS are presents in this album. It is DIFFICULT to JUDGE SIRIO 2222 as PROG ALBUM, also if MISSIONE SIRIO 2222 is a PSYCHEDELIC SUITE because the songs are ROCK with GUITAR. UN POSTO, NEVE CALDA, MA TI ASPETTERò, MEDITAZIONE, GIROTONDO or TI RISVEGLIERAI IN ME are GOOD songs, supported by GUITAR and VOICE and with GOOD ROCK RHYTHMS.

In every case these songs ARE NOT PROG and in my opinion are good only because are PURE TESTAMENTS of ITALIAN ROCK in 1970.

YS with GIANNI LEONE is another story... Of another band.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2008 at 16:32
your last review... wha chu talkin bout Mandy? Angry

(wonder how that translates through bablefish hahahha)

love that album by the way...Clap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2008 at 03:51
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

your last review... wha chu talkin bout Mandy? Angry

(wonder how that translates through bablefish hahahha)

love that album by the way...Clap
 
Well ... My opinion about 'Sirio 2222' is that it is not Prog album... But that is a good album! (P.s.: I love this Sentence from my review: '['Sirio 2222'] ARE NOT PROG and in my opinion are good only because are PURE TESTAMENTS of ITALIAN ROCK in 1970)'.
 
'Ys' is another story Big smileSmileEmbarrassed!!!
 
You last sentence is... A good sentence LOLEmbarrassedSmileShockedShocked!!!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2008 at 13:03
Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

Sulle Corde di Aries...yes, need to get that one.

That's the avatar of Micky! Big smile




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2008 at 13:05
Originally posted by Mandrakeroot Mandrakeroot wrote:

My last RPI review:
 
Il Balletto di Bronzo - Sirio 2222 CD (album) cover

Sirio 2222

by IL BALLETTO DI BRONZO (Italian Symphonic Prog)

3 stars SIRIO 2222 is the FIRST album by IL BALLETTO DI BRONZO. SIRIO 2222 is a POST BEAT album. NOT KEYBOARDS are presents in this album. It is DIFFICULT to JUDGE SIRIO 2222 as PROG ALBUM, also if MISSIONE SIRIO 2222 is a PSYCHEDELIC SUITE because the songs are ROCK with GUITAR. UN POSTO, NEVE CALDA, MA TI ASPETTERò, MEDITAZIONE, GIROTONDO or TI RISVEGLIERAI IN ME are GOOD songs, supported by GUITAR and VOICE and with GOOD ROCK RHYTHMS.

In every case these songs ARE NOT PROG and in my opinion are good only because are PURE TESTAMENTS of ITALIAN ROCK in 1970.

YS with GIANNI LEONE is another story... Of another band.

 
This is really a short review Wink




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2008 at 19:09
Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

About Guillermo's Akt review:

Glad to see it's so well-liked. A truly spectacular album. And just to remind all you out there who haven't listened to it...

...IT'S AVAILABLE AS A FREE DOWNLOAD ON THEIR OFFICIAL WEBSITE!!!

Just go get it LOL
 
You are right, i forgot to mention that in my review, i hope people go and listen to that awesome album Big smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 04:13
Originally posted by Alberto Muñoz Alberto Muñoz wrote:

Originally posted by Mandrakeroot Mandrakeroot wrote:

My last RPI review:
 
Il Balletto di Bronzo - Sirio 2222 CD (album) cover

Sirio 2222

by IL BALLETTO DI BRONZO (Italian Symphonic Prog)

3 stars SIRIO 2222 is the FIRST album by IL BALLETTO DI BRONZO. SIRIO 2222 is a POST BEAT album. NOT KEYBOARDS are presents in this album. It is DIFFICULT to JUDGE SIRIO 2222 as PROG ALBUM, also if MISSIONE SIRIO 2222 is a PSYCHEDELIC SUITE because the songs are ROCK with GUITAR. UN POSTO, NEVE CALDA, MA TI ASPETTERò, MEDITAZIONE, GIROTONDO or TI RISVEGLIERAI IN ME are GOOD songs, supported by GUITAR and VOICE and with GOOD ROCK RHYTHMS.

In every case these songs ARE NOT PROG and in my opinion are good only because are PURE TESTAMENTS of ITALIAN ROCK in 1970.

YS with GIANNI LEONE is another story... Of another band.

 
This is really a short review Wink
 
But complete... For my point of view!!! EmbarrassedShockedSmile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 22 2008 at 11:12

Zoinks....Zowie Ziggy is hard a work these days: 

 
CONSORZIO ACQUA POTABILE — Nei Gorghy del Tempo
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4 stars At times, there are modern bands that play seventies music. They are often called as regressive. What about an old band playing seventies music…in the nineties? Well, I guess that it is a good definition of CAP (let's call them this way for the purposes of my reviews from this Italian band).

If you have ever dreamed of the delicacy of Italian prog music which goes along here with refined vocals here, bombastic ELP-ish moments and some beautiful melodies; let me tell you that you don't need to search further on. You have reached the Graal.

The good thing with this album, is that all these elements are nicely combined to ensure that one doesn't get an indigestion of bombastic and regressive passages and too many long and quite parts. I couldn't find a better example than ''Vivendo Un Giorno…'' to highlight this comment. It is a perfect digest of their work.

Each of the tracks has lots of things to offer.

The opener (''Il Mercante'') starts awkwardly, but after this weird intro, the most beautiful sound is going to reach your prog ears. Melody and emotion. Some Spanish flavours (acoustic guitar and even trumpets), before the entry of the incredible vocals which are so passionate!

Some scary mood with ''In Un Vecchio Castello'': oppressive and dark at start, it turns into some sweet and light theme. A pastoral voyage in the world of the early ''Genesis'' for a while: do you get on board? It is true to say that the second part of the song has a more neo side; but this doesn't prevent the song to be an excellent moment. Those three songs were already featured on a live album recorded in '77 but only released in …'93.

The most poignant track IMO, is the wonderful ''Arnaldo Da Chatillon Crociato''. So much beauty should be forbidden! I have made this comment often so far, but here it is again: such passion and emotion are only to be found in this marvellous musical genre. Another highlight (but there are almost nothing else than highlights here).

The least interesting IMO, is the short (to their standards) ''Traccia…''. It is an old ''Banco'' cover.

This is an excellent album that would deserve some more exposure here. Four stars.

 
 
NUOVA ERA — L'ultimo Viaggio
Review by ZowieZiggy (Daniel)
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3 stars Although the band fully corresponds to Italian symph, this album features a harder edge which is already noticeable as soon as the album starts.

Complex and strong: so is ''Eterna Sconfitta'' which ends up as a rip off of ''The Knife'' by whom you might have heard (it is actually the second time tonight that I make this comment, the first one being for the debut album of ''Flame Dream'').

The hard feel is also conveyed during the epic and title track. The furious guitar is just splendid, but again the work from Phillips on this early ''Genesis'' track already mentioned is a bit too obvious. Apart from that, it is full of some wonderful synthesizers: from spacey during the intro to somewhat neo-prog later on. A highlight of this album.

This debut is lacking variety IMO. It also reminds the work of some earlier prog giant. A bit too much...When it is not ELP, it is Floyd. Just listen to the intro of ''La Tua morte Parla''. If it doesn't sound familiar with ASOS…I like it of course, but at the end of the day one has a strong feel of déjà vu (and more of déjà entendu). The second part of the track is dark, weird and scary. But I prefer this sort of personal mood.

The most symphonic and beautiful number from ''L' Ultimo Viaggio'' is the great ''Ritorno Alla Vita''. A jewel of a melody, full of emotion. Production is maybe not that great here. Drumming being too much on the forefront of this delicate song. Still, this is another strong moment.

I won't rate this album with too many stars; it lacks of personality and great tracks aren't too many. It is a pleasant and encouraging debut though. Three stars.

 
RUSTICHELLI & BORDINI — Opera Prima
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3 stars This is a rather minimalist line-up for a band playing Italian symph. Usually, we get some wind or chord player, a duo of keyboards or some fine guitarists. Nothing as such here. What we get is a keyboard player (who incidentally also sings) and a percussionist.

This doesn't mean that the music is minimalist though. Keyboards lovers, this album is yours: there are lots of bombastic and pleasant moments which automatically remind the good old ELP, but what is ruining this effort are the dreadful vocals: a desperate rasping voice (but some other reviewers seemed to appreciate this ''feature'', so…).

I wouldn't speak about highlights on this work, just a bunch of good songs which are flowing easily, without hurting any musical sense. Church organ sounds, heavy keys and intriguing mood are the components of the closing track ''Camellandia'' (nothing to do with a potential ''Camel'' land). I particularly like the mellotron section (but this is no surprise). The good point is that this is an instrumental track.

The second best number is the opener ''Nativita''. Like ''Camellandia'', it features some fine mellotron lines and it is quite upbeat at start and varied. From frenetic to emotive: this instrumental will lead you there. Since these two songs only are almost good for half of this album, one cannot complain too much. Still it would have been inspired to play some more of these pleasant tracks during the whole of this work.

This being said, there are no weak numbers per se, but ''Icaro'' is not very consistent and I am quite irritated with the voice of Paolo Rustichelli. It ends up in some jazzy interplay between both musicians. If you are missing some fine melody, I recommend you to listen to the emotive ''Dolce Sorella'' (sweet sister). A very sweet ballad indeed.

It is a good album (at least I consider it as such), but I wouldn't go over three stars to rate it. It would have been another affair if someone like Franceso DiGiacomo (''Banco'') would have been in charge of the vocals. Under these circumstances, a song as Un Cane'' would have been a masterpiece; because the potential was there; definitely.

 
SEMIRAMIS — Dedicato a Frazz
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4 stars It would be interesting to count how many bands from this genre have released one album in the early/mid seventies and then disappeared. Without any doubt, you can add ''Semiramis'' to the list.

A classic Italian symphonic music is caressing your ears while listening to this fine piece of work. IMO, the proof of time passed fairly well on this album and I feel like it sounds quite fresh for an album been released such a long time ago (thirty-five years by now).

One of the best assets of the band is the fine guitar play of Michele Zarillo. This is not so frequent in the genre and deserves to be mentioned.

The only weaker track '' Uno Zoo Di Vetro'' sounds very much experimental and not structured at all. But it is only one song (also the shortest one of all). This shouldn't refrain you to have a listen to this album. Some very good surprises are awaiting you here; like '' Per una Strada Affollata'' which hesitates between classic music (the opening part) and hard-rock (for the closing one).

Some Crimsonian accents are to be found as well (''Dietro Una Porta Di Carta'') and some frenzy during ''Frazz'' is quite disconcerting in the midst of such a beautiful melody. It is one of my favourite songs from this album. But so was the great opener ''La Bottega Del Rigattiere''

My top fave though is the fantastic closing ''Clown''. A fine classic guitar opening, some sweet and melodic vocals sustained with wonderful mellotron and all of a sudden, the track leans again towards KC and some frenetic beats. To have incorporated so many theme changes in less than five minutes is quite a feat.

This album is harder than the average Italian prog style (''Luna Park''), but it is combined with such delicacy that it shouldn't bother the purists of the genre. Four stars for this one shot fine achievement.

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CASTELLO DI ATLANTE, IL — Sono Io Il Signore Delle Terre A Nord
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3 stars CASTELLO DI ATLANTE must have break a Guinness record,as it took the band almost 18 years to release their first official album in 1992 under the title ''Sono io il signore delle terre a nord''.The band was formed back in 1974 but,as a lot of bands of the time,they didn't manage to release a record.In this time of 18 years the band released only some promo/demo tapes with not much interest by the music companies.Despite the ignorance and the difficulties,the basic line-up of CASTELLO DI ATLANTE managed to survive until the early 90's,when the Vinyl Magic label show some interest in them and finally the band published their first work...

The traditional italian symphonic rock sound is more than evident in this work.The production of the album is a little bit weak,but the arrangements are mostly very strong,creating a satisfying result.The sound of the album is somewhere between QUELLA VECCHIA LOCANDA and BANCO DEL MUTUO SOCCORSO of course somewhat distorted by the use modern technologies in instrumentation.Dark,romantic,balanced in complexity yet accesible and melodic,this album will leave speechless everyone who is deep in the RPI genre.Most of the songs are full of tasteful violin work,the fast piano passages are very strong and the interplay between them is the strongest point of the album!The vocals of in this album are also decent very much in the vein of the romantic expressive vocals of the 70's bands.However the keyboards' sounds,where added,are somewhat cheesy reminding more of pomp-rock bands and this is the most weak point of the production.The guitars are also tasteful and melodic,flirting sometimes with neo-prog,but this sound comes very natural rather than the band has ever heard to a neo-prog band...

This band hasn't just a lot of talent,the members of CASTELLO DI ATLANTE have grown and matured musically during the harsh time of these 18 years.Their debut album is a definition of italian symphonic prog despite the weak production and the lack of strong personality.3.5 stars for their long-awaited debut...

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VOLO, IL — Il Volo
Review by ZowieZiggy (Daniel)
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3 stars ''Il Volo'' is another discreet Italian band from he seventies. Unlike several of their colleagues, they won't release only one album. They will last long enough to be able to record…two.

This debut album has a definite jazz feel, but this is not an isolated fact in this genre (PFM, Banco…). But don't worry, this symphonic jazz is easy to digest (believe me). My concern about this album is that some of the tracks are only BRILLIANT during a portion. You should listen to the fantastic guitar solo from ''La Mia Rivoluzione''. Only Carlos could have produced a more emotional one. I would have liked a little more though…

Talking about ''Santana'': this feeling was very present as well during the closing part of ''Come Una Zanzara''. Totally jazzy for a while, it ends up into some frenetic Latin-rock extravaganza.

This album also holds some delicacies which are more in line with the genre like the sweet ''Il Calore Umano'' or '' Il Canto Della Preistoria'' although the later is not really impressive: some weird keyboard sounds are quite disturbing and should have been avoided.

My favourite track is the beautifum ''Sonno''. At last one song which is perfect from start to finish. But it is the last but one song from this work…

Three stars for this very short album (as it is often the case for Italian bands in the seventies).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2008 at 18:34
Hey newbies....

If you're curious about Italian Prog and wondering where to start, I have updated my "Italian top 25 list" for your reference.  There were some substantial changes since the last list 8 months ago. 

These are my picks for the titles you need to discover what lies beyond Banco, Orme, and PFM.   Hope it helps someone.  Ciao! 

Click here for the list:  http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47833
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2008 at 03:42
Great work Jimmy_Row!
 
Published the reviews in this thread (even the best or most significant) is important!


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Originally posted by Mandrakeroot Mandrakeroot wrote:

Great work Jimmy_Row!
 
Published the reviews in this thread (even the best or most significant) is important!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2008 at 08:19
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Hey newbies....

If you're curious about Italian Prog and wondering where to start, I have updated my "Italian top 25 list" for your reference.  There were some substantial changes since the last list 8 months ago. 

These are my picks for the titles you need to discover what lies beyond Banco, Orme, and PFM.   Hope it helps someone.  Ciao! 

Click here for the list:  http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=47833
I like what I see in the number 1 slot, JimmyboyClap Which ones are new additions to the list?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2008 at 08:48
This is my last RPI review for PA:
 
Osanna - Palepoli  CD (album) cover

Palepoli

by OSANNA (Italian Symphonic Prog)

5 stars A difficult album. Palepoli is a difficult album. In my opinion.

It is difficult to make a definition for this album, a sort of higest peak of talian music. But... Well... One moment... Is Palepoli the best Italian Prog album? I think no. Of course, Palepoli is the album most enjoyable and normal from Italian Prog. Of course, if I am able to write a sentence... If 666 is a self indulgent album (and Aphrodite's Child surclassed Yes!) I think that Palepoli is the self indulgent album of Italian Prog. But... Is true this sentence? No. Better to speak of normal type of Prog... And in this case of a normal Tull/ Crimson inspired album. Of course with tons of Neapolitan mentality and Folk.

I speak of difficult album. Palepoli is a difficult album. From the first listen to I understand Palepoli. But what I understood? Well... Well... Well... I undertand... Nothing! Today I spent several hours for a correct understand but Palepoli remain an obscure album for me, as Tull's A Passion Play! In a certain sense a Crimson album is much clear in my head.

Palepoli is the story of a city... But this city is neaples or... An utopian city? Difficult to say. I think that Neaples is, for Osanna's boys, the city and in this case also the utopian city. So it is clear that Osanna as band devise an album that is equal (like music division, 2 suite and 1 brief interlude) to Tull's A Passion Play but with Crimson's power. Today this is normal. Not normal is this fact in 1972. But in Palepoli is clear that Pink Floyd and Gentle Giant are another two bands that have inspired Osanna Palepoli's concept. I have clear that Pink Floyd wrote a long compositions that although divided into various sections are not true suite and Gentle Giant plays a sort of Baroque Rock that is copied in Palepoli but without the baroque elements. In this sense is clear that Palepoli is a closed album. Closed in itself... To explode all disputes of a city. City that is Palepoli... Or better Neaples... Or better all metropolis of the world.

The difference between Palepoli and L'Uomo is not the concept... But the studied subject. The final result is the same: modern society is at the heel. Pasolini wrote books and did films and did all this yelling discomfort. Osanna plays two albums!

So Palepoli without L'Uomo can be understood. But not until the end. And Vice versa.

If the music is art... Palepoli is art!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2008 at 14:20

...Said in a way that only Mandy is capable of.  I haven't heard the entire album yet in one sitting so I can't give much of an opinion, but it's clear that this isn't easy listening.  Seems like everyone calls it "difficult" or something like that.  Hopefully I'll be able to grab the mini-LP version soon...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 24 2008 at 17:11
^ One of the weirdest RPI albums. Lots of musical ideas constantly changing each other. You should have pretty quick mind to follow the way of Osanna's imagination.
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