Damn headphones

Mikerinos wrote: Steve-A wrote: Prog must be experienced with proper speakers, not headphones. Headphones don't shake the earth with thunderous bass-pedal sounds (unless you use a sub with your Cans, but that's a whole other level of selfishness!) One extreme.You cannot takes proper speakers with you.  Plus you can get a good pair of headphones for $25+, and an excellent pair if you spend more than that (big difference between good, cheap 'phones and sh*tty iPod earbuds and other trashy ones). Sckxyss wrote: A good set of headphones is as good or better than any speaker system, imo. You just haven't tried the right headphones..   CCVP: As odd as this topic is, the same thing happens to me all too often.. nothing makes me more angry! Another extreme.You just haven't tried the right speaker system. :PIt's a totally different experience, sometimes I actually prefer headphones to speakers, since my speakers are in an awkward position in my dorm, but at home when I can set them up properly there is nothing better.  Then again, I've invested much more in my stereo system than my  headphones.  You can buy an amazing pair of headphones for $250-300ish, and to get a stereo system of equal amazingness, you'll have to spend a lot more since it's other components and such, but to fully utilize awesome headphones you need a headphone amp.  Mid-fi is basically where it's at, paying the most you can afford comfortably.  Cheap stuff sucks but I'd rather just buy music instead of a $10k system (and get a $1k system instead).

I agree on the extreme-low point, but it'll only miss with headphone if you have a well working 38cm subwoofer. Speaker and headphone listening are two different things, the first is more physical while the second is more cerebral, but you get more informations with good headphones.
Good headphones, properly drived by a dedicated head amp is already great. To find the speaker's equivalent of a pair of Senn HD600 in term of neutrality and musicality is about to be costy!

oliverstoned wrote: Mikerinos wrote: Steve-A wrote: Prog must be experienced with proper speakers, not headphones. Headphones don't shake the earth with thunderous bass-pedal sounds (unless you use a sub with your Cans, but that's a whole other level of selfishness!) One extreme.You cannot takes proper speakers with you.  Plus you can get a good pair of headphones for $25+, and an excellent pair if you spend more than that (big difference between good, cheap 'phones and sh*tty iPod earbuds and other trashy ones). Sckxyss wrote: A good set of headphones is as good or better than any speaker system, imo. You just haven't tried the right headphones..   CCVP: As odd as this topic is, the same thing happens to me all too often.. nothing makes me more angry! Another extreme.You just haven't tried the right speaker system. :PIt's a totally different experience, sometimes I actually prefer headphones to speakers, since my speakers are in an awkward position in my dorm, but at home when I can set them up properly there is nothing better.  Then again, I've invested much more in my stereo system than my  headphones.  You can buy an amazing pair of headphones for $250-300ish, and to get a stereo system of equal amazingness, you'll have to spend a lot more since it's other components and such, but to fully utilize awesome headphones you need a headphone amp.  Mid-fi is basically where it's at, paying the most you can afford comfortably.  Cheap stuff sucks but I'd rather just buy music instead of a $10k system (and get a $1k system instead). I agree on the extreme-low point, but it'll only miss with headphone if you have a well working 38cm subwoofer. Speaker and headphone listening are two different things, the first is more physical while the second is more cerebral, but you get more informations with good headphones. Good headphones, properly drived by a dedicated head amp is already great. To find the speaker's equivalent of a pair of Senn HD600 in term of neutrality and musicality is about to be costy!

Truth. Headphones with a good amp handily best speakers in price-per-quality for individual listening. Problem is, one person and less comfortable than speakers. Also, there's nothing like waking your neighbors with Luciano Pavarotti.