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Poll Question: Which one do you consider the closest thing to Heavy Prog?
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    Posted: November 09 2008 at 16:37
These are not necessary faves, in fact I really dislike some of the ones listed *cough* Rising *cough*

Anyways, which of these albums you consider Heavy Prog or at least Heavy Prog Related.

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Hmmm, no votes, no posts

Well I'll have to make the first move then. It's Sabbath Bloody Sabbath for me, the adding of Keyboards much more present than the previous makes this album very proggy plus the compositions carry all more than 6 minutes which are not repetitive, they have a lot of time changes and all.
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favorites and taste aside, gotta be Physical Graffiti..  the variety, progression, enhanced composition and production, oh yeah baby
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Rising because its awesome so it must be heavy prog right?   The keys on it really add an extra dimension to the overall music, Dio is one awesome vocalist, Blackmoore rocks the git like he always does, and wasn't Aynsley Dunbar on drums for that one?  Or did he not come around until Long Live...?
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You don't like Rising? that album probably started progressive metal in a broader definition.
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Originally posted by BroSpence BroSpence wrote:

Rising because its awesome so it must be heavy prog right?   The keys on it really add an extra dimension to the overall music, Dio is one awesome vocalist, Blackmoore rocks the git like he always does, and wasn't Aynsley Dunbar on drums for that one?  Or did he not come around until Long Live...?


I'm quite sure it's Cozy Powell on drums on Rising.
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Cozy powell was on Rising.
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Originally posted by crimson87 crimson87 wrote:

You don't like Rising? that album probably started progressive metal in a broader definition.



I don't like Prog Metal, but that's really not the point, it's actually because the Dio's voice, just irritates me, except on few doses as in Rainbow's debut or Heaven & Hell.
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

favorites and taste aside, gotta be Physical Graffiti..  the variety, progression, enhanced composition and production, oh yeah baby



I was going to say Houses of the Holy; well it has a lot of mellotron, so... Tongue

You're probably right, though.  I think LZ did live on the outskirts of prog, so to speak, never really got there but who cares, the output was pure gold.
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Great poll, PabloThumbs Up! As there is only one possible choice, I went for Fireball (yes, once again!), followed by In Rock and Sabbath Bloody Sabbath. As regards Rising, I am not totally convinced it's HP, though of course it's an album that helped shape some subgenres of prog-metal. However, there is a glaring omission in the poll, a PR album that has an extremely high rating here... BOC's awesome Secret Treaties.

Edit: Yes, Cozy Powell played drums on Rising (as well as on Long Live Rock'n'Roll and Down to Earth). Aynsley Dunbar, on the other hand, never played with Rainbow, but rather with Whitesnake - he is credited as the drummer on 1987, if my memory serves me right.


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^thanks. I haven't heard Blue Oyster Cult, yet, so I really couldn't know.
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Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Great poll, PabloThumbs Up! As there is only one possible choice, I went for Fireball (yes, once again!), followed by In Rock and Sabbath Bloody Sabbath.
 
Actually, I think Sabotage is more progressive than any of these, although its more metal than HP, tbh...but I've gone for In Rock in this poll...which of course, contains a song especially dedicated to Micky...Heart
 
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At the times, all those albums were classified in the ''Hard Rock'' categorySmile
 
so which one is the proggiest??? Hummm! PHYSICAL GRAFFITY is the closest i think thanks to songs like Kashmir ot In My Time Of Dying and others!!
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Fireball for classics like The Mule and Fools
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Physical Graffiti was for me the pinnacle of Led Zep, the only time they really let themselves go and sprawled over a double-disc set. Virtually every song on the album is brushed by prog, and at least half the tracks are pure prog. I've been really enjoying In My Time of Dying lately, one of the best prog blues tracks around.

But my vote goes to Sabotage, the album responsible for starting the break-up of Black Sabbath. Poor Ozzy - the band struggled to do these songs live, and tensions within the band meant that Ozzy and Iommi realy went different ways. A combination of hard rock, metal and prog, this is a superb album and a candidate for Heavy Prog if ever I saw one.
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Atomic Rooster all the way!!




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Originally posted by russellk russellk wrote:

Physical Graffiti was for me the pinnacle of Led Zep, the only time they really let themselves go and sprawled over a double-disc set. Virtually every song on the album is brushed by prog, and at least half the tracks are pure prog. I've been really enjoying In My Time of Dying lately, one of the best prog blues tracks around.

But my vote goes to Sabotage, the album responsible for starting the break-up of Black Sabbath. Poor Ozzy - the band struggled to do these songs live, and tensions within the band meant that Ozzy and Iommi realy went different ways. A combination of hard rock, metal and prog, this is a superb album and a candidate for Heavy Prog if ever I saw one.
And Sabotage also was the starter of ruining Ozzy's voiceLOL
 
In live concerts i hear how Ozzy have very difficult task to reach the high notes of songs like Megalomania, Killing Yourself to Live, etc and maybe that's the reason of why never play The Writ live.




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^yeah, The Writ really needs a good high-pitch voice.
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Originally posted by Alberto Muņoz Alberto Muņoz wrote:

Atomic Rooster all the way!!


huh? Don't tell me you just wasted the vote....Atomic Rooster are already in Heavy Prog!
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Rising. 

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