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The Doctor 
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 23 2005 Location: The Tardis Status: Offline Points: 8543 |
 Posted: November 02 2008 at 10:57 |
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Garion81
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Posted: November 02 2008 at 13:29 |
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I think most tradition holds that Jesus would have born in September. When Constantine declared Christianity as the state religion of Rome many of the Roman customs were incorporated into Christianity's events to make the move more palatable. For instance declaring Christ's Birth to be in the general vicinity of the Winter Solstice.
As for me I going to see Trans-Siberian Orchestra the weekend before Thanksgiving and that will be the start to our season. If Christmas does nothing else it should give us all a heart for charity and giving. Of course we should be that way all the time.
What interferes with that is the size and number of presents we EXPECT. That is what damages the season. Gifts are just tokens of our affections and should be given freely with no return expected.
That being said let me be the first in this thread to delcare:
I hope everyone has a wonderful Holiday season no matter where you are or what your circumstances
 Oh and in the spirit of the thread I saw Halloween decorations up the day after Labor Day.
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Bern
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VIP Member Joined: September 22 2005 Location: Québec Status: Offline Points: 11746 |
Posted: November 02 2008 at 13:53 |
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I was thinking the same thing this morning when my neighbour woke me up for help with his decorations...
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RIP in bossa nova heaven. |
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zappaholic
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Joined: March 24 2006 Location: flyover country Status: Offline Points: 2822 |
Posted: November 02 2008 at 14:03 |
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Ah yes, Christmas. And with it, the now-annual War On Christmas [TM].
Bluh.
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"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken
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TGM: Orb
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Joined: October 21 2007 Location: n/a Status: Offline Points: 8052 |
Posted: November 02 2008 at 14:22 |
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Things I want this Christmas:
1. Shops having the good taste to not turn their entire store into a mass of red and white with price labels. Regular Turkish Delight is delicious. You couldn't give away Tesco Special Christmas Presenty Funfun Turkish Delight to any discerning customer who knew what it tasted like. 2. Shops to advertise two weeks before. Not two months before. Grrrr... 3. Parents not to want to get me into the village church just because it's nice and villagy and has mulled wine. |
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Queen By-Tor
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Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 13 2006 Location: Xanadu Status: Offline Points: 16111 |
Posted: November 02 2008 at 14:33 |
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I want a pony. Seriously though, I've seen decorations in stores since September. I just ignore them |
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Raff
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Posted: November 02 2008 at 14:39 |
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I actually make my own Xmas decorations... Last year I made a batch and took them to the US in order to decorate a spectacular tree (which, I was told, stayed in place until a couple of weeks before Easter
 ). Needless to say, though, I didn't start making them in September.
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Atkingani
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Posted: November 02 2008 at 14:52 |
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When I was a kid Christmas decoration appeared only in December but now they start to be shown soon after 12th October (Children's Day here)...
The matter is that every working people have the 13th salary (equal to a common salary) whose half is paid in November and the other half until 15th December and so dealers/traders/merchants are eager to take possesion of this money that injects more than USD 100 billion in the economy at once.  Edited by Atkingani - November 02 2008 at 14:53 |
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Vibrationbaby
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Joined: February 13 2004 Status: Offline Points: 6898 |
Posted: November 02 2008 at 23:44 |
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I grew up in the countryside north of Montreal, Quebec, Canada and it was only two weeks before the big day that we would go out into the forest with my dad to kill the tree. It came down two days after New Year's Day. he saved it and used it for compost in one of his bizarre gardens.Then we prepared for Robbie Burns Day and looked forward to that delicious I'm currently organizing a vigilante group called Black December. We're going to cam up and go on special forces style missions throwing molotov cocktails and bricks through any storefront displaying any form of Christmas decorations before Dec. 11. ( Seriously, I hope no one believes this ). Edited by Vibrationbaby - November 03 2008 at 02:07 |
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BroSpence
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Posted: November 03 2008 at 02:24 |
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People in my neighborhood haven't taken down their Halloween decorations yet, but the grocery stores have already put up the xmas candy. Come Thanksgiving we will have christmas movies in the theaters.
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Neil
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Posted: November 03 2008 at 02:46 |
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Very interesting. I was aware of quite a lot of that but there is some new info for me. Basically the modern Christmas has nothing to do with celebrating anything apart from the inproving bank balance of retailers; hence the adverts starting about now.
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Jim Garten
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Retired Admin & Razor Guru Joined: February 02 2004 Location: South England Status: Offline Points: 14693 |
Posted: November 03 2008 at 03:24 |
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And you don't even need to see the TV ads, just hear them - they always use those appalling Phil Spector produced Christmas songs... 'wall of sound'? Wall of arse!
One of our local supermarkets began selling Christmas cards at the beginning of September - go figure... |
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Dean
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Posted: November 03 2008 at 03:46 |
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On the bright side Jim, Sainsbury's will be selling hot cross buns soon.
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What?
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Jim Garten
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Posted: November 03 2008 at 03:49 |
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No doubt - it was them who started on the cards...
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: November 03 2008 at 08:02 |
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They won't even let the veterans sell their poppies in the malls in downtown Montreal. Ain't getting my business that's for ding dang. Fortunately I didn't go to war but I put in 9 years. Shame on them.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: November 03 2008 at 08:33 |
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Did someone say "war on Christmas"?
Update, double pasted, oops. All part of my devious war on Christmas. Edited by Slartibartfast - November 03 2008 at 15:04 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Ricochet
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Posted: November 03 2008 at 11:25 |
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You can show that again!
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Neil
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Joined: October 04 2006 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1497 |
Posted: November 03 2008 at 13:51 |
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And on Dec 26th Woolworths will have Cadbury's Cream Eggs on sale.
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Epignosis
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Posted: November 03 2008 at 15:56 |
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There used to be a store in my hometown that sold Easter and Christmas candy year round. We bought to give out on Halloween. Saved a few bucks. |
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Epignosis
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Posted: November 03 2008 at 15:56 |
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Well, to kick off the holidays, I'm getting in the spirit with a little egg nog right now.
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