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Jim Garten
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Posted: October 28 2008 at 09:38 | |
Apropos of nothing, saw a programme last night which centred on John Prescott's take on the class system in England; very interesting & it surprised me how self concious & insecure JP came across.
One segment though infuriated me - he spent some time with three teenage girls from Lewisham, all of whom were (sorry for the possible generalisation here), what's the word? Ah yes - Scum (one of them who professed to wanting to better herself was complaining she hadn't been given the chance to take her GCSEs as she had been expelled for attacking & headbutting the deputy head); they didn't know who Gordon Brown was, thought the houses of parliament were the same as Buckingham Palace & when asked their political views, one of them said she'd vote the same as her dad - BNP. When one of her friends (who happened to be black) objected to this saying they were racist, she came back & said "oh no - not you: just the ing Pais"... When JP said later it was people like this he came into politics to help I thought "What The ?" Then it struck me - he didn't actually say it, but what I think he was getting at was these people are so stupid, they are easily led, easily influenced & easily fooled; they need someone to help them & speak for them - because they sure as Hell couldn't do it themselves. My opinion of JP changed during the documentary - not sure I'm so keen on his (rather manipulative) wife though... |
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Raff
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Posted: October 28 2008 at 09:39 | |
Well, when I last was there (over the Xmas holidays), I did cook up a storm! The presence of an excellent supermarked in the neighbourhood was an encouragement for me to display all my ability. Luckily our new home is still reasonably near this wonderful place, and there is also a branch of Safeway just across the street. Talking of what, I didn't know Safeway was an US chain.... Or is just the Brits reaching out across the pond?
Jared, hope you're feeling better now! |
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Dean
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Posted: October 28 2008 at 09:59 | |
Safeway is a US company - the UK branches were sold off about 20 years ago but kept the old name. Recently were sold again and are now called Morrisons. |
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Raff
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Posted: October 28 2008 at 10:06 | |
That shows how up to date I am on British society.... I remember seeing branches of Safeway (celebrated by Peter Gabriel in "Aisle of Plenty") all around Britain, while I don't remember seeing any Morrisons. However, my last visit to good ol' Blighty was over two years ago - when it was replaced as my favourite travel destination by its former colony across the Atlantic!
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Padraic
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Posted: October 28 2008 at 10:17 | |
There will be oodles of Safeways for you to go to when you arrive. I'm sure Alexandria must have a good farmer's market somewhere, but I never looked (there were others closer to where I lived in Maryland). |
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Raff
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Posted: October 28 2008 at 10:28 | |
Can't remember seeing any farmer's markets around Alexandria, though I read somewhere there was one in the main square in the Old Town. As you know, street markets are an important feature of European life, even more so in countries like Italy where buying fresh food is essential. Unfortunately, even here they seem to have become more of a nuisance (especially as regards traffic) than an asset. The famous Ponte Milvio market, relatively close to my home, was recently taken off the street, so to say, and moved to the ground floor of a shopping mall in a side street. The guy who interviewed me at the Naples Consulate had lived in that area for some years in the past, and he was absolutely floored by the news. On the other hand, the market we walked through every day in Naples was something to behold... Pity that Micky forgot to take pics of the legendary tripe shops!
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Angelo
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Posted: October 28 2008 at 18:30 | |
While your shopping, Raff, could you bring some stuff for me?
I dont belong here, said old tessa out loud. Easy, love, theres the safe way home. - thankful for her fine fair discount, tess co-operates Still alone in o-hell-o - see the deadly nightshade grow English ribs of beef cut down to 47p lb Peek freans family assorted from 17 1/2 to 12 Fairy liquid giant - slashed from 20p to 17 1/2 Table jellys at 4p each Anchor butter down to 11p for a 1/2 Birds eye dairy cream sponge on offer this week. Its scrambled eggs. |
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Wilcey
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Posted: October 28 2008 at 18:57 | |
"Prezza" was a guest on Sunday daytime radio a couple of weeks ago, and I too was pretty impressed...... mainly with his choice of music , which of course I can't remember, But he came over surprisingly well for someone I was expecting to loathe! |
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mystic fred
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Posted: October 29 2008 at 03:03 | |
I missed the Prescott programmme but might be able to pick it up on BBC IPOD. I had forgotten Safeway still existed, joined the "I Hate Tesco" campaign a few years ago (after a personal grudge brought about by the mischevious antics of their staff members) - I still prefer to visit Waitrose and have always considered it the best store, everything is easy to find, nice food and always have honey roasted peanuts, white maltesers and Yum Yums in stock ...
and they support local charities - at the checkout they give you a green disc which you can use to "vote" for a local charity - as for prices, well you buy one for low price and get none free, so nothing -gets -thrown- away -because- you- bought -too- many-of-the-damn-things....
last week in a concientious effort to "save the planet" by using fewer bags, i was leaving the store when a box of blueberries fell out of an overloaded bag onto the floor by the main entrance sending them rolling all over the place - i bought another box (£3) and while trying to make a discreet exit saw the area busy with cleaners, a security guard and a manager sorting out the confusion at the main door - fingers were pointed at me and i held up my hands muttering "it's a fair cop, guv" and was taken aside by the security guard and the manager
as i was trying to think up a good excuse for messing up their store on a busy satuday morning (feeling like a naughty schoolboy getting ready for a beating from the headmaster) they were all smiles and apologised offering me a free replacement box of blueberries....explaining it was my fault and i had already bought another one i retreated shameful but relieved to the car park, vowing never to make any more false economies
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Jim Garten
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Posted: October 29 2008 at 04:15 | |
Had that been at a Stevenage Tesco's, the area would have been busy with the wobbling classes, (a) trying to work out what a blueberry is, then (b) a mad scramble for free food |
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Jim Garten
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Posted: October 29 2008 at 04:27 | |
Here's a suitable topic for us Shed-ites; the weather...
On the way home from work yesterday, heavy rain turned to sleet, then whilst we were at the pub for a swifty, this turned to heavy snow, which settled to a couple of inches; overnight, the skies cleared & the temperature dropped to approx -4, freezing everything solid & turning my car windscreen into a 2 inch thick block of ice. If that's not enough of an embuggerance, at some point overnight, we had a powercut (power still off ), so no central heating, I had to wash/shave in just-about-warm water this morning, couldn't wash my hair (I therefore look like a tramp ) and as I sit at my desk at work typing (one-handed), I've been holding on the phone for the electricity suppliers for approx 25 minutes. Small mercies though, our old wind-up radio provided BBC Radio 4 & the camping stove + old kettle allowed coffee. Not the best start to the day! |
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Wilcey
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Posted: October 29 2008 at 05:03 | |
They stock blueberries in Stevenage Tescos? Yesterday (being half term) My daughter decided to make blueberry muffins, you CAN NOT buy blueberries in asda, they looked at me like I was asking for some kind of exotic alien fruit. So she made coconut and choc muffins instead. (you can get good coconut in the "foreign foods" aisle, far far better than the stuff in the english aisles!
Oh boy, when that tour bus gets back to blighty they are going to feel it! they've spent the last few days saying "Oooh, it's hot here" down the phone............ we'll wipe the smug sunny grins off their faces. |
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Jim Garten
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Posted: October 29 2008 at 05:13 | |
As long as Nick doesn't get off the tour bus in a t-shirt & shorts...
One curious thing I noticed though (with the early snow and all) - you don't often see broadleaf trees like oaks still with leaves on & covered in snow. Mond you - one of the guys in the pub last night said the last time he remembers snow this early was the notorious winter of 1962 - that's something to look forward to then |
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Atavachron
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Posted: October 29 2008 at 05:19 | |
looks like we may have a cold one too
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Raff
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Posted: October 29 2008 at 05:27 | |
Micky told me that he had to turn the heat on last night, since the wind was howling outside. Here it's still unseasonably warm, in spite of the gallons of rain that came down from the sky last night (some of which ended up in my kitchen... long story). High temp for today is expected to be over 20°C, possibly even around 24. This makes things even more inconvenient for me... I don't know yet when I will be able to leave, and the movers are coming next week to take my stuff away - which means I'll probably have to leave some warm clothes for me to take in my suitcase when I finally get the green light.
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Wilcey
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Posted: October 29 2008 at 05:29 | |
Actually we could use a decent winter, one of the worst things about winter and summer recently is that they are shockingly similar, if we was to have a SCARY winter, maybe we'll all be more grateful for the miserable glint of sunshine we call summer! W x |
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Wilcey
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Posted: October 29 2008 at 05:32 | |
I should imagine after all this time and waiting, that clothes wont really be much of an option when you get there will they? It's great it's all coming together at long last! |
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Jim Garten
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Posted: October 29 2008 at 07:05 | |
+++thinks better of making a comment & sounding like Russell Brand (er!+++ |
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Wilcey
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Posted: October 29 2008 at 07:20 | |
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Jim Garten
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Posted: October 29 2008 at 08:05 | |
Huzzah - the BBc have suspended the talentless waste of space
By whom I mean Russell (Ooh, aren't I such an individual as opposed to a badly dressed talentless ) Brand. Thing is, they've also (rightly, I guess) suspended Jonathan Ross... but I quite like him - I suppose this means no 'Film 2008' this week, then - Jonathon - I like you, but you're an idiot on this occasion. Incidentally, before anyone points this out, I know this is probably an over-reaction by the BBC & they're being led by popular opinion, but I've not heard the EVIL PHONE CALL in question & am just rejoicing at Russell (expletives deleted) Brand being hung out to dry - if any head's going to roll, who're the BBC going to look at? Ross or Brand? I know where my money's going... Edited by Jim Garten - October 29 2008 at 08:12 |
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