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Mandrakeroot 
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Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
 Posted: October 26 2008 at 06:55 |
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Because this is a great band from Slovenija I recommended (with the help of my review):
 The only problem with this band is coming from Slovenia, or better, I guess that comes from the Former Yugoslavia. More precisely from Ljubljana. This has not contributed to international success of Oko, made up of Pavel Kavec (guitar, vocals), Tone Dimnik (drums) and Franjo Martinec (bass). Others do not know, except that this Raskorak is 1976. The CD is a production of Pavel Kavec of December 1998. Music can be defined as heavy prog psychedelic symphonic, at times similar to Eloy 'Dawn', 'Rocka Rolla' of Judas Priest of 'Saxon' of Saxon, stretches sufficiently close to Hawkwind (although only as a concept, although 'Hej Mala' will use the effects of laser shots that make 100% Hawkwind!). Other times are totally heavy Rock, other times blues (obviously have heard the Bijelo Dugme in the composition of 'Sam Sam', blues ballad, all sung in falsetto).
See here and there I can say that the intro of the songs (where they can define these) are very psychedelic. Then the songs become very heavy rock, as linear in the performance. The many drums fill and use of rhythms other than 4 / 4 shall include Oko in Prog field. 'Hoces Li Sa Mnom' presents all these elements and could be a song of Eloy. Unfortunately, the recording is not optimal and that, while he ruined the production, has helped to make the songs even more powerful. Clearly, if that synthesizers are put into the second floor and thus the funky heavy rock 'Sve Sam Ti Dao' loses the minimum sinfonicity making it too similar to a demo version. Things that I like very much! With regard to the Prog trials, in the case of this CD they are all enclosed in 'Theme IV', good funky jazz. At this point it should be said that the CD seems product using the original master, even if 'Baj Baj' seems poured on this CD from an acetate. Special moment of 'Raskorak' CD are the 5 bonus track! Even outside from Great Britain this is who was kept tapes of radio and TV appearances so that they can reuse a day. Thus 2 songs are from television appearances and 3 by radio session, of course from Slovenian Radio and TV . In conclusion... 'Raskorak' is certainly not a CD that blasts in the armchair. However 'Raskorak' is a CD that makes us go an hour of pleasure in listening to good music. What is also sufficiently technical, well written and well arranged, as well as designed really well. |
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Mandrakeroot
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Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: October 26 2008 at 20:21 |
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I see that in John Paul Jones album (the 2001 album) plays also Adam Bomb!
I see Adam Bomb in concert... Great Singer/ axeman and Bomb musical style is a pure Glam Metal... In that concert Adam Bomb plays in support to Anoy Rocks! I have two Cd and one MC atographed by himself!!!
Great music... Adam Bomb!!!
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Bunburyist
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Joined: October 27 2008 Status: Offline Points: 17 |
Posted: October 27 2008 at 12:50 |
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Whitesnake nane th' less. Blimey!
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'ard/ 'eavy prog/proggish ban's , they'em be legioon.
'ere's a few thart coomb ter mynd dis minute. (Nort necessarilay torp-'ole ban's , bur regardlesh....):
Banshee - ainnlay th'secundt lp ( muckle rarer den fust)
Davis & lowe - prototype '78 US
Jordi Covek (yugoland)
Gleemen (weel, mebbe mair oanneur psych side o' spectrumm?)
Bram Stoker- 'eavy rock spectacular
Flower travellin' Ban' - satori
Tha's chust scraggin' th' soorface, jimmehs.
(yew wans mair, yew gie uz dollah.)
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Bunburyist
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Posted: October 27 2008 at 12:51 |
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Greyt newish ban' - ABRAMIS BRAHMA (sweden)
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b_olariu
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Joined: March 02 2007 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 5532 |
Posted: October 27 2008 at 13:20 |
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Yes, heavy prog i love this subgenre, many bands that i like and some of them really love are from early 70' s when heavy prog were in golden era. An underrated band who playes vintage heavy prog is Master's Apprentices, I really love this band, among others. Another bands that i like are Uriah Heep, AFT, Odin , etc and another lost one with Ken Hensley on keys Weed from 1971, must check this one, i will look to be added on heavy prog soon.
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Mandrakeroot
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Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: October 28 2008 at 05:00 |
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Ken Hensley solo is HP?!?
Great news!
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weetabix
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Joined: January 20 2008 Status: Offline Points: 170 |
Posted: October 28 2008 at 06:46 |
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How do you like your prog? Overnight of labeled?
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b_olariu
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Joined: March 02 2007 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 5532 |
Posted: October 28 2008 at 06:52 |
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Mandrakeroot
Forum Senior Member
Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: October 28 2008 at 06:54 |
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HP?!?
Well...
 Well...
   HHHHHHHHHHeeeeeeeeaaaavvvvvvvvyyyyyyyyy PPPPPPPPPrrrrrrrrrrooooooooogggggggg!!!
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b_olariu
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Joined: March 02 2007 Location: Romania Status: Offline Points: 5532 |
Posted: October 28 2008 at 08:03 |
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well yes, man i'm a dude
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Alberto Muñoz
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Posted: October 28 2008 at 12:59 |
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Well i think that his work is HP but i send some samples of his first two albums to David (Atavacharon) and said to me that he don't see any HP to be added
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el dingo
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Joined: October 08 2008 Location: Norwich UK Status: Offline Points: 7053 |
Posted: October 29 2008 at 04:42 |
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I've only got Proud Words but I reckon it leans as close to Country in places as it does to HP!
Love Cold Autumn Sunday - best track on album by a mile.
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It's not that I can't find worth in anything, it's just that I can't find worth in enough.
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Logan
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Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 35940 |
Posted: October 29 2008 at 15:24 |
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Could someone please recommend to me more music like Maxwell's Demon in Heavy prog, because I think it is excellent. http://www.myspace.com/therealmaxwellsdemon
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Mandrakeroot
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Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: October 30 2008 at 14:03 |
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I recommended this album with my review:
Probably a masterpiece, maybe a Proto Prog Metal album. 'Sea Shanties' is, also today, a good album. But 'Sea Shanties' is good because the music is good. Is false to speak that 'Sea Shanties' be good because electric violin & electric guitar plays only rhythmic soli because wrote with false twin parts.
In my opinion 'Sea Shanties' is a good Rock album in Prog field. Not every minute of this album speak another language. Expression of the new Heavy Rock, 'Sea Shanties' is an album with a big soul. From the first song ('Futilist's Lament') is clear that 'Sea Shanties' is an innovative album. The particular sound of violin and guitar transform the High Tide music in a kind of Doom Metal, without being heavy as in the case of Black Sabbath, a song like 'Futilist's Lament'. Also the rest of the songs are good, also if too technical and complex. This fact is good but today is also a problem. In fact, the songs are not aged well as should have. This makes a difference if we consider the album for a correct value. I love music that transmits emotions (and in 'Sea Shanties' there are very manyemotions) but listen to songs not aged well is not the maximum, for me. This fact is important but not fundamental in 'Sea Shanties' because High Tide seem to have managed to transform what is a defect typical of the emerging Heavy Prog (and Heavy Rock) and able to turn it into the honor. In this sense I think that a song like 'Nowhere' is a clear example. In definitive 'Sea Shanties' is a good album. Not a masterpiece. Today 'Sea Shanties' is saved from his sound, based on a twin electric violin and electric guitar. Because for the rest 'Sea Shanties' is a typical album of Heavy Rock in Prog field. And also this CD, always with my review:
 I suppose that 'the Devil's Answer' is good to classified as a 'Studio Album' and not as compilation because the sound is similar, too similar, in all songs and except for 'Devil's Answer' that is a live recording the songs are from some demo recordings (but with great quality... Not recordings because... Live in studio!).
Said this the songs are... Well... The live version of 'Devil's Answer' is more metal than the original because with new arrengements and, for this motive, with new great power. 'Play It Again' is a good song. Nott perfect, with new Wave passages but 100% Rooster. I not love this song. But in general 'Play It Again' is more than good. 'Tomorrow Night' is present in a new version. But at the end, too similar to the original. 'Control you' is a good Heavy Metal song with fuzz guitar, organ and drums... A perfect NWOBHM song! 'Oh She, Oh She's My Woman' is a pure Rock. But great for power and writing. With few arrengements 'Oh She, Oh She's My Woman' is a pure adrenaline song. 'Who's looking For You' is a perfect Post Punk song with great organ from Crane and great power. Not a simple song 'Who's looking For You' is a perfect song for a Rock discoteque because have also a dance flavour! 'Lose Your mind' is a great song. In a word... Masterpiece. 'Lose Your Mind' is a pure downlowd of adrenaline. Great Crane and Du Cann in this 'Lose Your Mind', exceptional Rock with (also) a great drums. Because it is true... Atomic Rooster is one of the fathers of Heavy Metal and prog Metal! 'I Don't need You Anymore' is a pure Street/ Glam Metal song a la Motley Crue/ Twister Sister but not for this fact 'I Don't Need You Anymore' isn't Prog... Because have a great Romantic/ Symphonic/ Neoclassic Crane organ! 'He Did It Again' is a pure post Punk song but with another great organ parts and a pure Heavy Metal guitar solo! 'He Did It Again' is an unfortunately song because at y warning 'He Did It Again' could represent a new way to please the Prog to large masses in the early 80's! 'The Show'... A clear Punk song from a Du Cann Crane penned... A perfect contamination between pure Prog Rock (in Heavy Prog field), Heavy Prog, Punk, New Wave and Heavy Metal... in a sentence: 'The Show' is a pure motorhead song! 'Hold It Through The Night' is another Heavy Metal song but with Prog treatment. In fact the guitar is Heavy, the drums is Metal but the music is a strange Blues Rock that tranform this song in a Prog song. Another contaminated song, also if 'Hold It Through The Night' is a pure Rooster song. 'No Change By Me' close this album. Also 'No Change By Me' is Rock... In my opinion 'No Change By Me' is a pure and perfect Rock song. And, always in my opinion, 'No Change By Me' is also a perfect Rooster example of power and passion! Is clear that this CD deserve a great attention. First because is an example of an unfortunately period for Crane and Rooster but characterized by an inspiration and a joy to produce music that I have not found in the production of the 70's. That the birth of Heavy Metal and NWOBHM are responsables of this new power for Crane and Du Cann... I do not able to know. But is tangible able to see that this power and joy that are fired in our minds so we are flooded by the joy of pure pleasure to listen and be part of this great party. So 5 stars are the correct view for 'The Devil's Answer' album. Fans of Rooster and Heavy Prog... And also of Prog Metal... This CD is for You! |
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Mandrakeroot
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Italian Prog Specialist Joined: March 01 2006 Location: San Foca, Friûl Status: Offline Points: 5851 |
Posted: October 30 2008 at 14:08 |
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Another my reccomendation... Not proper Heavy Prog... But Heavy Prog because some songs... Also this with my review:
My review is produced using this release: Magna Carta MAX-1004-2
Rating: 7,5/10 I bought this promotional compilation because Mike Portnoy is one of my all time preferred drummer. But, I prefer to admit it beyond every possible misunderstanding, The Liquid Tension experiment not pleases me. So this compilation for me have extreme good moment. In the Power Prog Metal/ Classic Metal of "Mad March" (from "Andy West with Rama's "Rama 1") Mike is unique. This isn't a simple performance in a simple song. This is THE drum performing. This is Jazz, Blues, Rock, Heavy Metal... this is pure dreaming performance. Good is also the ballad "Freedom Of Speech" (from "Liquid Tension Experiment") because is a Santana guitar with piano teo driven instrument song. In this song Mike plays a simple partiture. In my opinion another great performing. Good also "Acid Rain" but too cold for me (not Mike!!!). "Endless Enigma" (from "Encores, Legend and Paradox (Tribute to ELP)") is forced song also in original but in this version is too forced. Obviously Mike not helped to not forced this song. Because Mike forced all the song that played. But in positive manner. So "Working Man" and the summarized of "By-Tor And The Snow Dog" (both from "Working Man (Tribute to Rush)" are great. Another great Mike performing in these two Prog (and Heavy Metal) evergreen. But, in general, this promotional vcompilation confirm that Mike is the new Cozy Powell or Carl Palmer. Is only a promotional compilation. But Mike Portnoy is Mike Portnoy and for me the Mike's drumming is from Hell!!! If you love Mike Portnoy this is a great compilation. If you love the drum... This is a great compilation. In every case Mike Portnoy is the new God of drums!!! |
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Alberto Muñoz
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Joined: July 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3577 |
Posted: October 30 2008 at 14:09 |
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Well MandrakeRoot Shea Shanties is an excellent album!! that's for sure
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Logan
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Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 35940 |
Posted: October 30 2008 at 15:51 |
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Mandrakeroot, I'm not sure if that High Tide and Atomic Rooster recommendation was a specific response to my looking for something in Heavy Prog similar to Maxwell's Demon request (probably not, it was just that that post directly followed my request), but I want to say that Sea Shanties is one of my absolute favourite classic heavy prog albums (and the follow-up album by High Tide is awesome). Good review, incidentally. Atomic Rooster has great stuff too.
This was my favourite in heavy prog at one time. One that is not well-regarded by quite a few reviewers: 
1975 Plastic People 3.55 (15 ratings) 
This is the very first time that “Birth Control” almost sounds as “Genesis” during some (short) moments.
Like in the opening number which is surprisingly similar to some early work of this great band (“Genesis” I
mean).
Keyboards especially sounds as Tony’s one. I must say that it is the very first time that such a relation is
to be noticed with “Birth Control”. And it is difficult to ignore because this opening number is very good.But the worse is immediately taking the role: “Tiny Flashlights” is some kind of awful disco beat oriented track. I have to admit that this album is rather bizarre. Songs feature several moods within a song. Did I say, a song within a song? But these are shy of this great “Camel” one. This album is really going nowhere with “My Mind”. Disjointed, uninspired and useless. The accordingly titled “Rockin' Rollin' Roller” is somewhat better. An upbeat psychedelia song. Not a superb one, but compared to the other songs so far, it is shining OK. This album truly starts with “Trial Trip”. The heavy beat, so typical is finally there. But this is the last but one good song from this release. Probably a bit too late to make this one a good album. This song features BRILLIANT moments (but so short ones). The instrumental second half is such a magical moment. Fabulous guitar solo, really. How is this possible? Brilliant and so weak during the same album. Did the band do this on purpose? The wind section is also too much present to please me. I don’t really like this album. Just average. Soul oriented during the closing number : “This Song Is Just for You”. I can tell you that it is definitely NOT for me. Probably a casting mistake… This sounds more as poor Motown tune than to a prog one… Two stars.-------------------------------------------------------------- Edited by Logan - October 30 2008 at 15:55 |
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The Quiet One
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Joined: January 16 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 15745 |
Posted: October 30 2008 at 17:00 |
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I'm sure you haven't heard Lovehunter and Ready an' Willing, and if you have you should definitely realise that these albums are highly recomended for Deep Purple fans from MK 3 and 4. If you haven't heard them, please don't bash the band just for their junky side of the 80's. It would be like bashing Genesis or Yes just considering their 80's albums, and that would be so mistaken. |
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Alberto Muñoz
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Posted: October 30 2008 at 17:24 |
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Yes Lovehunter, Trouble and Ready and Willing have prog elements and check out Vampire's Blues, from Trouble
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The Quiet One
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Posted: October 30 2008 at 20:28 |
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Yeah Vampire's Blues is an awesome song. I also enjoy Come an' Get It, though from there you start listening to A LOT of 'cliches', and well Saints & Sinners is like a compilation of the previous 4 just with different lyrics 
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Mandrakeroot wrote:
I can't tell you how impressive this piece of music is! It's one song
almost 39 minutes long called "Prometheus".This is an all instrumental
work consisting of mellotron,flute,guitar,bass,drums,keyboards,organ
and more. This is very complex music that is very intense. In the liner
notes the band specifically thanks "ANGLAGARD for inspiring this
project".And certainly that is who i thought of most of the time i
listened to this amazing work, as well as SINKADUS.I guess SINKADUS
because of the flute and the sombre and melancholic mood that permeates
the sound. A word on the name of the band, which was inspired by an
imaginary creature that mathematician James Maxwell created to
contradict the second law of thermodynamics.Yeah,it's sort of
complicated just like their music.The music doesn't have the type of
melody that your going to be tapping your toes too,but it's more made
up of intense arrangements that change constantly and leave you saying
wow! I felt it was like enjoying a gourmet meal made up of many
delicacies that were being served to me in different ways for almost 40
minutes.You know what i mean? Hearing the same sounds being arranged
differently throughout the song.
The song starts off with flute,odd metered drumming and organ.Mellotron
comes in after 3 minutes.The song pretty much stops and slowly rises 4
minutes in with flute and organ.We get a full sound 5 minutes in and
the drum/organ interplay is outstanding as the song begins to
accellerate. 8 minutes in the song pretty much stops again as eerie and
haunting flute sounds arrive.The guitar gently and slowly plays as
drums come in rising to a breif full sound.Mellotron 10 minutes in and
more gentle guitar.A full sound arrives before 12 minutes, then it
calms down again with flute leading the way.SINKADUS comes to mind
here.The guitar sounds mournful as mellotron comes back before the
tempo picks up.We get about a 5 minute section of steady drums with
variations of flute,guitar and organ.Check out the mellotron 21 minutes
in!Marching style drums a minute later before more mellotron 24 minutes
in.The song almost stops again 26 minutes in and rises with mellotron
and a catchy drum,guitar and organ melody.30 minutes in the song calms
down as we get a spooky,haunting mellotron and flute passage. The song
picks up tempo before 35 minutes with flute,organ and drums leading the
way.Now it's time to take a shower! Intense!!
I am so surprised that this record isn't more popular in prog
circles.This is the definition of prog. 
