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Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2008 at 23:29
Originally posted by Philéas Philéas wrote:

Let's just keep full-on western art music off this site.. to keep things simple
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The site would quite literally be rammed packed and start getting utterly ridiculous.


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Points: 3834 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 28 2008 at 12:37
Originally posted by Philéas Philéas wrote:

Originally posted by kibble_alex kibble_alex wrote:

The site would quite literally be rammed packed and start getting utterly ridiculous.


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I would have to agree, you can hear a lot of Stravinsky in Frank Zappa... who obviously had a huge influence on the direction of prog rock. I think it would be interesting if Stravinsky's work was to be placed in the prog-related section.
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Originally posted by cmbs cmbs wrote:

I would have to agree, you can hear a lot of Stravinsky in Frank Zappa... who obviously had a huge influence on the direction of prog rock. I think it would be interesting if Stravinsky's work was to be placed in the prog-related section.
 
Why do we stop here?
 
Why not Bach, he's a huge influence for early Prog bands
 
Or Mussorgsky, Night in the Bald Mountain must be one of the musical pieces re-interpreted more by Prog bands like Aether, Fireballet, Par Lindh Project, and maybe more i can't remember now, not counting Pictures at an Exhibition recreated almost fully by ELP and Mekong Delta.
 
Or Copland, Fanfare for the Common man was re-created by STYX and 5 years later by ELP.
 
Or Peer Gynt, you can listen it everywhere, from Beggars Opera Act One to Rick Wakeman's Journey to the Centre of the Earth.
 
Please, we are talking about Progressive Rock, Classical artists have their own sites and charts, most of this guys are 100 years older than Prog.
 
Would be absurd to add them.
 
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Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Why do we stop here?
 
Why not Bach, he's a huge influence for early Prog bands
 
Or Mussorgsky, Night in the Bald Mountain must be one of the musical pieces re-interpreted more by Prog bands like Aether, Fireballet, Par Lindh Project, and maybe more i can't remember now, not counting Pictures at an Exhibition recreated almost fully by ELP and Mekong Delta.
 
Or Copland, Fanfare for the Common man was re-created by STYX and 5 years later by ELP.
 
Or Peer Gynt, you can listen it everywhere, from Beggars Opera Act One to Rick Wakeman's Journey to the Centre of the Earth.
 
Please, we are talking about Progressive Rock, Classical artists have their own sites and charts, most of this guys are 100 years older than Prog.
 
Would be absurd to add them.
 
Iván
 
 
 
This is true.
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It's proto-proto-prog.Thumbs Up

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I thought this thread died a long time ago...

as for the Bach thing, I cannot name a single genre of modern music that he didn't influence. I mean, come on. He invented major and minor keys, all the cadences, blah blah blah... Before him all composers were just using modes and nothing but.
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Originally posted by topofsm topofsm wrote:

It's proto-proto-prog.Thumbs Up
 
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Hi,
 
SWEETTTTTT ....
 
I keep posting and talking about things like this and how they show "progression" in music history  ... and Stravinsky is really fine ... really fine.
 
Also very nice, if you get the chance ... grab Tomita's version ... it is amazingly good adn well done ... and it captures the trippy side a wee bit better for my ears.
 
Thanks so much ... this is appreciated and then some ...
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Rite Of Spring is very progressive and has provided with me some of the best musical journey's I've ever had
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Points: 29630 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 11 2009 at 05:08
Ah, prog classical.  Let's not leave out Holst and Debussy. Big smile

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The main problem that I see with classical music is that it isn't published in the form of albums. For example, if we added Stravinsky then there wouldn't be a studio album entry for Rite of Spring ... instead we would have to select one of the various recordings of live performances of the piece.

Apart from that, I think it would make a lot of sense to compile a list of classical influences and list them somewhere ... probably outside of the database, without the possibility to rate them.
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Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

The main problem that I see with classical music is that it isn't published in the form of albums. For example, if we added Stravinsky then there wouldn't be a studio album entry for Rite of Spring ... instead we would have to select one of the various recordings of live performances of the piece.

Apart from that, I think it would make a lot of sense to compile a list of classical influences and list them somewhere ... probably outside of the database, without the possibility to rate them.

You know that's rather interesting when you think about it.  The recorded album is rather recent invention in the history of music...
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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