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Ivan_Melgar_M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
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Why? Your review can be the definitive one
Honestly, I never read another review while doing mine, because I believe what people deserve to read is MY HONEST AND PERSONAL OPINION, not the opinion of other persons transcripted by me.
About thinking....Any person who does a valid review has to think before.
Ivān
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Windhawk ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 28 2006 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 11401 |
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Oh well, some day I may have the time to write somewhat longer reviews in here as well; where I can go more in depth. Case is though, that my reviewing time is towards other sites which supply me with plenty of music; and they all kind of want the long versions for themselves. Hence summaries from me posted here; which is kinda bad as I -often- have the first review of an album.
Sometimes I do manage to be a bit more than extremely brief though, like here: http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=181841 But still, if possible I'd think most of you would have liked this one instead...: http://usaprogmusic.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_simple_review&Itemid=28&review=192-Suspyre-When-Time-Fades Anyhow, if there is to be an even longer minimum words attached to review rule; a consequence will be that we'll get fewer people coming in here to review. Higher quality probably, but not as many I'd think. When it comes to description of an album, I used to follow this setup rather closely (and still is a guideline for me): 1. Introduction to the artist 2. Influences on this particular album 3. Analysis - how does it sound and why 4. Conclusion - who would want to buy / listen to this release in my opinion I used to say a bit about justification of a rating as well, but doesn't do that as often these days. There's a limit to so many phrases to use to describe an album as very good, mixed, average and below average according to one's personal taste ;-) Same goes for favorite tunes really. |
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Alberto Muņoz ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3577 |
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I read many reviews and info regarding the album, before doing mine, i see that the job of do reviews of an album is like write a book, you do some search and research and use the info that have like a bibliography. ![]() |
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Ivan_Melgar_M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
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Yep, but my research is the music itself.
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Alberto Muņoz ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3577 |
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Ivan. Music is the main ingredient of the review. ![]() |
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NotAProghead ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 7969 |
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Because in the end similar thoughts are repeated many times, it becomes hard for readers to extract useful information from a "heap". One more reason to read opinions of other persons. Sometimes I see so good reviews, and undrestand: all I can say, and even more, is already said. And said much better than I can. In such cases I prefer to follow the rule: silence is gold. ![]() Edited by NotAProghead - October 19 2008 at 15:22 |
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Alberto Muņoz ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3577 |
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here's a old thread that have good points about the current subject:
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=49983 |
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Angelo ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 07 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 13244 |
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@Windhawk: I don't think we'll change the minimum number of words required for a review. I think the discussion was more about people setting that lower limit of 150 for themselves, in order to write something proper.
@NotAProgHead: We have members following certain reviewers - it would be a shame if one of those would not write a review for an album because others had already done that. Their followers would not get their regular portion of information. It may not be your way, but we have quite a few members who work that way. Oh, and stop hijacking Peter's color schemes ![]() |
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I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
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NotAProghead ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 7969 |
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zafreth, it seems we'll never make "lazy readers-active writers"
![]() ![]() They tell they don't want to be influenced, but I guess in fact they are only lazy to read.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Alberto Muņoz ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3577 |
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hahaha i agree with you ![]() ![]() |
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Angelo ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 07 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 13244 |
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Zafreth, just checked the link you provided. You're a bit foolish to put that on a public forum, you should have kept it to yourself and asked money for it - Zafreth's Review Authoring Course
![]() Seriously though: I see where you're coming from (and going to), but you'll never change all our reviewers.... |
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ISKC Rock Radio
I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
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NotAProghead ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 7969 |
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Good argument, maybe the only worthwhile here. Don't know what Peter you're talking about, but anyway my respect to him.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Alberto Muņoz ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3577 |
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i'm not intending to change people i'm only giving more tools ![]() And the question is where am i going to? ![]() |
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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I don't think that all reviews should follow rules and formula, part of the magic of PA reviews is that many of them are unprofessional and unstructured, that they have no point or objective other than expressing the joy or disappointment of hearing an album.
The most important thing about writing a review is reading it to yourself before hitting the send-button.
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Raff ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 29 2005 Location: None Status: Offline Points: 24429 |
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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Alberto Muņoz ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3577 |
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The disadvantage that i see is, sometimes we have to read some poor written reviews
I always prefer to write good reviews and even if i been stuck lately
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Ivan_Melgar_M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
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There's no definitive rules for anything in art, I only mentioned what I look in a review when I want to buy an album.
If a review doesn't tell me why an album is good, what influences or style do they play and gives me an idea of the album and/or tracks...Well it doesn't tell me anything.
The rest is style, I see a lot opf people who talk abiut the album as if it was an entity, others only about tracks, I like a different approach, track by tack but also the general atmosphere or style of the album.
Each one is good, it depends on the personal style.
Ivān
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Chris S ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: June 09 2004 Location: Front Range Status: Offline Points: 7028 |
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Writing reviews for some is a hobby, enjoyment,a passion, even the grizzly ones. Not to be overanalyzed, but once out in the public domain, open to good and bad crticism is natural.
In fact I know there was a thread somewhere ( given up trying the search function
![]() Maybe even if once a month the site owner elects the reviewer of the month award. No gift just recognition on the front page?
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progressive ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: October 08 2005 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 366 |
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Short reviews can be very nice here and there, and personal touch and diversity are just good. You can think the short "reviews" as a part of the whole review that all reviews makes together. The amount of them can be a problem. But if they are invisible unless clicking that "show all reviews" or for example "show all reviews over 150 words" button, what's the problem? And I say recklessly that even 30 words can be considered, for example. There are some people who are not encouraged to write longer and "better" reviews in that case, but so what?
And for example now there stands "showing only reviews with more than 200 characters" in "Show all xxx reviews (and ratings)" But it's a mistake, too (there's also other mistakes, maybe I just go to the bugs forum :D) |
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