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    Posted: December 10 2008 at 16:52
I have been staunchly behind him but probably won't be getting this one.  Can't imagine it is anywhere near as good as ? so why bother.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2008 at 06:13
Originally posted by Progger Progger wrote:

His best since 'Testimony'. Excellent album!!!!Clap


I'm really curious to know why you find it's his best since Testimony ;)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 10 2008 at 00:26
His best since 'Testimony'. Excellent album!!!!Clap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2008 at 21:04
It's still good, but "Lifeline" might be my least favorite epic of his since the second album of Transatlantic. It's good and all, but incredibly derivative. I also don't enjoy Leviathan much, it should be a bonus track.

The ballads are very good, and the epic is excellent.

His weakest since testimony, but it still exceeded my expectations.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2008 at 15:49
Well, you're right, it's still 50 mminutes of music but it's because I'm really a fan! "So Many Roads" is not its best epic at all and it sounds to me that it  has been done juste to have an epic. The other songs of the album, apart from "Lifeline" and "Leviathan" sounds like fillers. It sounds, for the first time to me, really uninspired Confused
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2008 at 15:38
Originally posted by Anaon Anaon wrote:

I'm so disappointed about this album!! And I love Sola Scriptura so much! The difference is huge!! I really like "Lifeline", "Leviathan" and "So Many Roads" but all the other songs are just a repeat of past songs. I nearly hear other songs from Neal Morse when I listen to Lifeline and it's really disturbing...

For me, it's the first disappointment...


Haven't heard the album, but according to my calculations Lifeline + Leviathan + So Many Roads = about 50minutes. That out of a 69min album is quite a bit of quality music. Why so disappointed?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 15 2008 at 08:01
I'm so disappointed about this album!! And I love Sola Scriptura so much! The difference is huge!! I really like "Lifeline", "Leviathan" and "So Many Roads" but all the other songs are just a repeat of past songs. I nearly hear other songs from Neal Morse when I listen to Lifeline and it's really disturbing...

For me, it's the first disappointment...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 14 2008 at 16:44
^ I think in this case it's - unless I'm mistaken - because in the U.S. he's publishing the album through Radiant Records, while in Europe it is published through InsideOut.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 14 2008 at 14:14
Yeah, see, I knew of it working that direction, where prog albums come out earlier in Europe, but it still is surprising that it takes so long for an internationally well-known prog act like Neal Morse to take a month between releases. Hm.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 14 2008 at 14:04
It's the same for the new Presto Ballet album, it will be released on November 14th in Europe. It works the other way round too ... for example today the new live album of Between the Buried and Me was released in Europe, but it will be released a few weeks from now in the U.S..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 14 2008 at 13:52
Really? Still not released? It's been out since the end of September, if I remember right. Why do they have a month's difference there? I thought Europe was more up on that sort of thing. Hm.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 14 2008 at 13:47
Originally posted by Zitro Zitro wrote:

anyone?

Neal Morse's forum itself barely discusses this album. When "?" or "Sola Scriptura" came out, there was a lot of excitement.




I don't know about the U.S., but here in Germany it's still several weeks until it will be released ...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 14 2008 at 12:42
Originally posted by chocomancer chocomancer wrote:


Sola Scriptura still presented a lot o' fresh ideas and is NOT repetitive.



I agree completely. Sola Scriptura and ? are absolutely wonderful releases, while One is pretty good, Testimony is okay, and Lifeline is poor. The only problem with this repetitive release strategy is that every time I hear something new by him that's not new at all, the old stuff gets less interesting too. It's not supposed to happen, but ever since I got Lifeline, for example, I haven't even been tempted to listen to anything he's ever touched.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 14 2008 at 12:36
Originally posted by LiquidEternity LiquidEternity wrote:

Originally posted by Moatilliatta Moatilliatta wrote:

As my review explains, I thought it was pretty awful. Some of the material is solid, but this is the first time I really find Neal uninspired musically. I've never agreed with those who've said he's repeating himself until this album dropped also.


Exactly my position. Before Lifeline, I avidly defended the man wherever I went. Now we have an album that's not only repetitive, which I could forgive, but mostly dull and uninspired. I'm hoping that this is just a wrap-up album for Neal, a last hurrah to a style and form he's leaving behind. Hey, I can hope.


ClapYeah! Let's hope for that. Morse is my hero (...musically speaking)
This album definitely has no surprises...
Maybe he's not that good on non-concept albums
cos' Sola Scriptura still presented a lot o' fresh ideas and is NOT repetitive.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2008 at 08:21
Just posted a review.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2008 at 00:55
Originally posted by Moatilliatta Moatilliatta wrote:

As my review explains, I thought it was pretty awful. Some of the material is solid, but this is the first time I really find Neal uninspired musically. I've never agreed with those who've said he's repeating himself until this album dropped also.


Exactly my position. Before Lifeline, I avidly defended the man wherever I went. Now we have an album that's not only repetitive, which I could forgive, but mostly dull and uninspired. I'm hoping that this is just a wrap-up album for Neal, a last hurrah to a style and form he's leaving behind. Hey, I can hope.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2008 at 23:59
As my review explains, I thought it was pretty awful. Some of the material is solid, but this is the first time I really find Neal uninspired musically. I've never agreed with those who've said he's repeating himself until this album dropped also.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2008 at 23:46
Is Portnoy on the drums?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2008 at 23:28
Well, I heard the samples and singles, and let me tell you: I'm gonna save my money..

Lifeline (title track)'s single format shows a derivative intro that blends Sola Scriptura's intro with Endless Dream's (a Yes song). Not bad but the vocal melodies are surprisingly unmemorable and the chorus was poppy in a bad way, and that there were many moment where it felt 'too familiar'. For example: a main melody reminded me of "Duel of the Devil"

Leviathan had a guitar/synth unison riff that is extremely similar to "Party to the Lie", but nowhere as effective. blah. And I can't believe Mike Portnoy is beginning to sound samey as well: such a great drummer.

Apparently the album is yet again about the same thing, does he have to repeat the 'testimony' concept and the theme of being troubled and being rescued by God? (Testimony, One, possibly Snow). I'd like to hear him speak about certain current issues like fighting poverty, religious intolerance, etc ... or at least something a bit different. I'll give you an example: a fictional concept album of a church group collecting donation money for a member who doesn't have health insurance and has cancer ... eventually influencing not just the church but the people in the community being more active and serving the community with good deeds ... i dunno, some album about the good side of humanity no matter the religion of the people in the community.

Unless Neal Morse finds some inspiration to write something different, I'm not sure if I'll keep buying albums. I'd rather give a spin to "?" if I want Neal Morse playing his formulaic style at his best


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2008 at 21:36
Just the words flying around Neal's site. You know how those Inner Circle people get all the goodies.

Something called The Whirlwind, around 40 minutes long, and radically different from the rest of Neal's work. I hope that's the truth, because I like it when artists do really different things from their norm.

Meh, Transatlantic is looking less tasty of late. Maybe only as long as Roine gets a big amount of say in the songwriting process. The problem with trading Randy for Pete is that Pete was a fundamental voice in the band, to me. I like his basswork a little better, too. He's less flashy and more melodic, I think.

Actually, at this point, I'm fine with the way Transatlantic is resting. I guess ever since I found The Tangent, Transatlantic is not so exciting anymore.
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