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Zitro
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Topic: Neal Morse's Lifeline opinions Posted: October 09 2008 at 16:00 |
anyone?
Neal Morse's forum itself barely discusses this album. When "?" or "Sola Scriptura" came out, there was a lot of excitement.
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Takeshi Kovacs
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Posted: October 09 2008 at 16:06 |
I heard it today when I listened to the Interstellar Overdrive podcast, and it was pretty good fare, very much in the typical Morse mould. Not so much of a concept album, more just a collection of songs. Didn't instantly grab you like Sola Scriptura.
Joel Craig, hosting the Podcast made the point afterwards, that Morse's albums are starting to get 'samey' and that he may be overdoing the religious praise a bit, and that perhaps he needs to re-address the direction he's going in. Personally, I don't care as long as the music sounds good.
Edited by Takeshi Kovacs - October 09 2008 at 16:56
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Chicapah
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Posted: October 09 2008 at 16:30 |
I'm very pleased with it but plan to explain my excitement in my forthcoming review.
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LiquidEternity
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Posted: October 09 2008 at 20:35 |
It's not quite on the same level as other Morse releases in regards to guest stars, which might be part of it. Pretty sure Sola Scriptura and Beyond made a bigger splash than Lifeline did.
And, for the most part, people's opinions on it are what they expected to think about it. People who are convinced he's got nothing new to offer heard nothing new. People who are convinced his music is great heard great music. Only a few change their mind, every time and album is released by that man. Unfortunately, this was the release for me, and now I'm seeing sameness everywhere I go. I swear, Frank Zappa and King Crimson will be the death of my musical tastes yet...
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Posted: October 09 2008 at 20:47 |
I like it and especially love "So Many Roads", but it's not as good as the others.
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LiquidEternity
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Posted: October 09 2008 at 20:59 |
Yeah. I don't mean I don't like it. I do enjoy it, especially the title track, Leviathan, and the epic. However, in light of Neal's history, I don't find it a particularly interesting, exciting, or different sort of output. I don't know. I really wanted to be impressed, but in the end, it does about as much for me as the new Coldplay album. It's cool, but it doesn't grab my attention or challenge my mind or spark my creativity. It's just like... music. Normal music with a few expected twists. Oh well. I hear his next project is supposed to be really different.
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Posted: October 09 2008 at 21:15 |
^^What have you heard?
I've never had a problem with Neal's subject matter of late, but I do think it's time to do a more secular album or even a Transatlantic reunion. Pete may be busy with Marillion, but have Randy George step in. That guy is a monster bassist.
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LiquidEternity
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Posted: October 09 2008 at 21:36 |
Just the words flying around Neal's site. You know how those Inner Circle people get all the goodies.
Something called The Whirlwind, around 40 minutes long, and radically different from the rest of Neal's work. I hope that's the truth, because I like it when artists do really different things from their norm.
Meh, Transatlantic is looking less tasty of late. Maybe only as long as Roine gets a big amount of say in the songwriting process. The problem with trading Randy for Pete is that Pete was a fundamental voice in the band, to me. I like his basswork a little better, too. He's less flashy and more melodic, I think.
Actually, at this point, I'm fine with the way Transatlantic is resting. I guess ever since I found The Tangent, Transatlantic is not so exciting anymore.
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Zitro
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Posted: October 09 2008 at 23:28 |
Well, I heard the samples and singles, and let me tell you: I'm gonna save my money..
Lifeline (title track)'s single format shows a derivative intro that blends Sola Scriptura's intro with Endless Dream's (a Yes song). Not bad but the vocal melodies are surprisingly unmemorable and the chorus was poppy in a bad way, and that there were many moment where it felt 'too familiar'. For example: a main melody reminded me of "Duel of the Devil"
Leviathan had a guitar/synth unison riff that is extremely similar to "Party to the Lie", but nowhere as effective. blah. And I can't believe Mike Portnoy is beginning to sound samey as well: such a great drummer.
Apparently the album is yet again about the same thing, does he have to repeat the 'testimony' concept and the theme of being troubled and being rescued by God? (Testimony, One, possibly Snow). I'd like to hear him speak about certain current issues like fighting poverty, religious intolerance, etc ... or at least something a bit different. I'll give you an example: a fictional concept album of a church group collecting donation money for a member who doesn't have health insurance and has cancer ... eventually influencing not just the church but the people in the community being more active and serving the community with good deeds ... i dunno, some album about the good side of humanity no matter the religion of the people in the community.
Unless Neal Morse finds some inspiration to write something different, I'm not sure if I'll keep buying albums. I'd rather give a spin to "?" if I want Neal Morse playing his formulaic style at his best
Edited by Zitro - October 09 2008 at 23:42
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Drew
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Posted: October 09 2008 at 23:46 |
Is Portnoy on the drums?
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Posted: October 09 2008 at 23:59 |
As my review explains, I thought it was pretty awful. Some of the material is solid, but this is the first time I really find Neal uninspired musically. I've never agreed with those who've said he's repeating himself until this album dropped also.
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LiquidEternity
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Posted: October 10 2008 at 00:55 |
Moatilliatta wrote:
As my review explains, I thought it was pretty awful. Some of the material is solid, but this is the first time I really find Neal uninspired musically. I've never agreed with those who've said he's repeating himself until this album dropped also. |
Exactly my position. Before Lifeline, I avidly defended the man wherever I went. Now we have an album that's not only repetitive, which I could forgive, but mostly dull and uninspired. I'm hoping that this is just a wrap-up album for Neal, a last hurrah to a style and form he's leaving behind. Hey, I can hope.
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Posted: October 10 2008 at 08:21 |
Just posted a review.
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 12:36 |
LiquidEternity wrote:
Moatilliatta wrote:
As my review explains, I thought it was pretty awful. Some of the material is solid, but this is the first time I really find Neal uninspired musically. I've never agreed with those who've said he's repeating himself until this album dropped also. |
Exactly my position. Before Lifeline, I avidly defended the man wherever I went. Now we have an album that's not only repetitive, which I could forgive, but mostly dull and uninspired. I'm hoping that this is just a wrap-up album for Neal, a last hurrah to a style and form he's leaving behind. Hey, I can hope.
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 Yeah! Let's hope for that. Morse is my hero (...musically speaking) This album definitely has no surprises... Maybe he's not that good on non-concept albums cos' Sola Scriptura still presented a lot o' fresh ideas and is NOT repetitive.
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Take the Passion Road.
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LiquidEternity
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 12:42 |
chocomancer wrote:
Sola Scriptura still presented a lot o' fresh ideas and is NOT repetitive.
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I agree completely. Sola Scriptura and ? are absolutely wonderful releases, while One is pretty good, Testimony is okay, and Lifeline is poor. The only problem with this repetitive release strategy is that every time I hear something new by him that's not new at all, the old stuff gets less interesting too. It's not supposed to happen, but ever since I got Lifeline, for example, I haven't even been tempted to listen to anything he's ever touched.
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 13:47 |
Zitro wrote:
anyone?
Neal Morse's forum itself barely discusses this album. When "?" or "Sola Scriptura" came out, there was a lot of excitement.
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I don't know about the U.S., but here in Germany it's still several weeks until it will be released ...
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LiquidEternity
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 13:52 |
Really? Still not released? It's been out since the end of September, if I remember right. Why do they have a month's difference there? I thought Europe was more up on that sort of thing. Hm.
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 14:04 |
It's the same for the new Presto Ballet album, it will be released on November 14th in Europe. It works the other way round too ... for example today the new live album of Between the Buried and Me was released in Europe, but it will be released a few weeks from now in the U.S..
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LiquidEternity
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 14:14 |
Yeah, see, I knew of it working that direction, where prog albums come out earlier in Europe, but it still is surprising that it takes so long for an internationally well-known prog act like Neal Morse to take a month between releases. Hm.
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 16:44 |
^ I think in this case it's - unless I'm mistaken - because in the U.S. he's publishing the album through Radiant Records, while in Europe it is published through InsideOut.
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