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The Pessimist 
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Joined: June 13 2007
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 Topic: Mahavishnu Orchestra or Return To Forever
Posted: February 25 2009 at 17:20 |
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Return To Forever, but damn, that really was a hard choice. Corea won it for me though with his utterly SPOTLESS and beautiful playing.
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"Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value."
Arnold Schoenberg
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Carlos
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Joined: February 28 2004
Location: Ecuador
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Posted: February 25 2009 at 16:21 |
Yet another hard poll but I raise my thumbs on Armando Corea's band 
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Captain Capricorn
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Joined: February 21 2009
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Posted: February 25 2009 at 16:06 |
Mahavishnu.
I love Chic - but you just can't eff with Mahavishnu John 
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Pnoom!
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Location: OH
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Posted: February 25 2009 at 16:02 |
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I've heard both Mahavishnu albums and Romantic Warrior from RTF.
RTF are good, but the album never really won me over fully. Both Mahavishnu albums are excellent, on the other hand.
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____VdGG____
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Joined: February 10 2006
Location: Canada
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Posted: February 25 2009 at 15:36 |
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Rick Laird is better than Stan Clarke? Really? No offense, but Rick Laird was a VERY mediocre bass player, and was really outclassed by the rest of the group IMHO. Mahavishnu Orchestra had some deadly tunes, but Hymn of the Seventh Galaxy gets my vote for best fusion album ever, so it is apparent where my preference lies!
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Iron throated monsters are forcing the screams;
Mind and machinery box-press our dreams
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Urs Blank
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Joined: September 17 2007
Location: France
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Posted: October 17 2008 at 06:25 |
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A friend recently offered me the Return To Forever's Anthology, and so I am currently into RTF more than Mahavishnu Orchestra. Both are great but I have a small preference for Corea's band.
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Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it.
Salvador Dali.
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Alberto Muñoz
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Joined: July 26 2006
Location: Mexico
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Posted: October 15 2008 at 11:07 |
 BroSpence wrote:
RTF pales in comparasin to the almightly Mahavishnu Orchestra.
Cobham > White= Wins Cobham.
McLaughlin > DiMeola = Wins ¿¿??
Laird > Clarke= Wins Clarke
Hammer = Corea= Wins Corea
Goodman > ...Flora Purim?= no contest.
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BroSpence
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Joined: March 05 2007
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Posted: October 15 2008 at 02:24 |
RTF pales in comparasin to the almightly Mahavishnu Orchestra.
Cobham > White
McLaughlin > DiMeola
Laird > Clarke
Hammer = Corea
Goodman > ...Flora Purim?
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Alberto Muñoz
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Joined: July 26 2006
Location: Mexico
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 20:09 |
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RTF
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The Quiet One
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Joined: January 16 2008
Location: Argentina
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 17:11 |
RTF definitely, even though I just heard 3 of their albums. From MO also 3.
MO is too noisy, while experimental in a good way, for me. RTF is what I would say a perfect Jazz Fusion band 
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memowakeman
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Joined: May 19 2005
Location: Mexico City
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Points: 13033
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 15:37 |
Mahavishnu Orchestra 
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33rpm
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Joined: April 14 2006
Location: Ohio USA
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 13:50 |
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Love both but RTF has many more great albums than MO. Listening to "Inner Mounting Flame" as I write this.
Edited by 33rpm - October 14 2008 at 13:55
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Vinyl just sounds better!!
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Norbert
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Location: Hungary
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 13:29 |
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Both are absolutely fabulous at their best, but the first 2 Mahavishnu are probably unsurpassed in jazz rock.
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darksideof
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 13:14 |
TOO HARD TO CHOOSE!!!!  love both bands..
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Logan
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 12:46 |
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I like Return to Forever, but Mahavishnu Orchestra blew me away. MO is also one of the great influences on Prog bands, imo.
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"Questions are a burden to others; answers a prison for oneself" (The Prisoner, 1967).
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Chicapah
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Location: United States
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 08:29 |
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Went with RTF only because I have to be in the right frame of mind for Mahavishnu. Both are exhilarating and exciting but RTF is easier on my aging psyche.
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"Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain
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JROCHA
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Joined: October 18 2007
Location: Oakland, KS
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 08:28 |
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RTF for me, Mahavishnu is great but i can not pass up the amazing lineup of Corea ,Di Meola,Clarke and White. Possibly one of the greatest groups of musicians ever.
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TerLJack
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Location: United States
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 06:25 |
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RTF, purely on the strength of Romantic Warrior. MO has big chops, but I'm a fan of melody.
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fusionfreak
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Joined: August 23 2007
Location: France
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 04:38 |
RTF is great but Mahavishnu Orchestra blew my mind away years ago and still does!I recently listened to
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I was born in the land of Mahavishnu,not so far from Kobaia.I'm looking for the world
of searchers with the help from
crimson king
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Anderson III
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Joined: October 25 2007
Location: Finland
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 02:59 |
RTF is quality music... Mahavishnu is the Absolute which is beyond human comprehension and is beyond all attributes!  But seriously, even though I like the little I've heard from Corea's crew of virtuosos, it's not like I had any trouble voting for MO. Check The Inner Mounting Flame, Birds of Fire, Apocalypse and VOOEB for reasons.
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