Should Metallica be in the forum?

The T wrote: ^Ok.... So how do I nominate them for prog-related?   If all it takes is saying so, then hereby I nominate Metallica for prog-related.

I think prog-related will cause a much smaller crapstorm because the rational person will realize "Wait a minute, prog-related =/= prog". Plus they fit the definition pretty well. 

Yeah, there have been some sketchy things in the past. But there is tangible influence in this case, so it SHOULD be smoother.

Has any possible addition been more thoroughly discussed before?

Windhawk wrote: Has any possible addition been more thoroughly discussed before?

If you think this is something, you should have witnessed the debate when Magma was proposed as a possible addition to the fairly new Zeuhl category.  Bloody war broke out beween the pro-Magma -as-Zeuhl camp, the pro-Magma-as-Zeuhl-Related camp, the pro-Magma-as-Proto-Zeuhl camp, and the Magma-has-nothing-to-do-with Zeuhl camp.  Many posters were lost in the battles, bu not only did the site survive, but it's now widely accepted as a key Zeuhl band.  I like to think that the scars of those who demanded it in Italian Symph have faded since then, but the great Magma battle is the stuff of legend.  Let us never forget.
(oh, and then there was the should Zeuhl be a sub-genre here debate, but that's another story),

^ I don't know.  It seems strange to think these days that some thought that true Zeuhl started and ended with KC and the Sunshine Band (or was that Prog Metal, I forget). ;)

yeah...  I think this thread has been a feather in the cap for the site.  On several fronts...  one for M@X.. whose original decision was... well... not exactly popular among the collabs.  Whichever way you came down on whether they belonged here or not...  glad to see he is open to addition.. that is the strength of the site.  It isn't a single voice that decides things here... but a whole site of them... some agree.. some disagree.. but most here get in... or don't get in...on their merits.  That is what the collabs judge on. Not a name.. or a label. Simply the music... that is what was discussed here... and why I'm sure the admin team will approve them.  So kudos in advance for the site... of course they will be placed in the wrong sub-genre... but that is the quirkiness of the site... the FAR too rigid categories we have here. What matters is having them ON the site.  

hahha.. yeah...  the lawyers are in the lobbies smoking Winstons...  the press has cameras set up in the hood waiting for the masses to start burning cars and looting and rioting...  while the elite PA's SWAT team waits orders to go in and bust some heads.

of course the court can circumvent this... and do the right thing.. and put Metallica where they really belong... in a redefined 'proto' sub... the renamed 'influences on prog'  having got got rid of the silly 1969 aspect of that sub.. as if prog existed only in the 70's thus not acknowledging that groups that didn't exist in the 60's DID have  a profound influence on prog.

there are two bands that have to be on the site.. and probably will... that would best placed by redefining proto... one is Metalica.. the other.. well... being a Poker player...  I am not showing my hand.. because if proto is not redefined...  I will go through the system and that will be a team decision.  that battle to be fought at the time and place of my chosing hahhaha. 

there are several bands.. like Sabbath.. that would be MUCH better fits in proto than related.. and yes Scott.. many of the proto prog-metal bands are already here.  Either in PM already.. or rotting away in related like Sabbath and BOC.. which does their contribution to prog-metal absoutely no justice.


Edited by micky - September 20 2008 at 23:07