McCain or Obama

IVNORD wrote: Vompatti wrote: npjnpj wrote: Apart from that, can anyone understand the American voting system?   HC and Obama flaming one another even if they're supposed to be representing one party, and then HC recommends the Americans vote for Obama after having spent millions of (other peoples') dollars and months of trailing around to show what a bunch of crap he is! That's INSANE!!!! Even more so when you find out that the whole voting thing is a hoax because the result has already been decided. That is figuratively speaking, right? Or else tell us what the decided result is

How should I know? I'm not the one who decided on it. Besides, even if I did know I wouldn't be foolish enough to reveal it and get the men in suits after me.

EDIT:
On second thought, I might just as well let you know. Sadly, they've chosen McCain. It doesn't matter who you vote for, they will count the votes but nobody will count all the votes, which is why it's easy for the guys who really decide on these matters to throw in some random, yet believable number: "McCain won with 53.4% of the votes", or something like that.


Edited by Vompatti - September 02 2008 at 13:43

Henry Plainview wrote: Are you serious? Please tell me you aren't serious. Next we'll have a 9/11 Truther thread

Don't give them any ideas. 

Vompatti wrote: Do you guys really think they would let the people choose the president?

They? Who are they? How can you even know who they are when you're all the over in Finland?

Vompatti wrote: Parties are overrated. We need more dictators.

How about a Monarchy instead of a dictatorship?

Henry Plainview wrote: Are you serious? Please tell me you aren't serious. Next we'll have a 9/11 Truther thread and then I'll have to kill myself. But it's McCain who wins, save yourself the anxiety.

Perhaps you should take a look at some of this:

http://www.gregpalast.com/
http://www.gregpalast.com/steal-back-your-vote-2/#more-2067

Obama Doesn't Sweat. He should.

by Greg Palast

Greg Palast on the Thom Hartmann show - Obama Doesn't Sweat,

"n swing-state Colorado, the Republican Secretary of State conducted the biggest purge of voters in history, dumping a fifth of all registrations. Guess their color.

In swing-state Florida, the state is refusing to accept about 85,000 new registrations from voter drives – overwhelming Black voters.

In swing state New Mexico, HALF of the Democrats of Mora, a dirt poor and overwhelmingly Hispanic county, found their registrations disappeared this year, courtesy of a Republican voting contractor.

In swing states Ohio and Nevada, new federal law is knocking out tens of thousands of voters who lost their homes to foreclosure."
http://www.gregpalast.com/obama-doesn%e2%80%99t-sweat-he-should/





Edited by Slartibartfast - September 02 2008 at 19:11

Slartibartfast wrote: -snip-

OMG YOUR ABRASIVE COMIC HAS CONVINCED ME! THE REPUBLICANS STOLE THE ELECTION PRAISE THE HONEST HARDWORKING DEMOCRATS!

If you're going to make sweeping accusations, it would help if you didn't rely on dinky personal websites.

Edited by Henry Plainview - September 02 2008 at 15:43

Right now neither.  Anyone who wants "real change" to quote one of the candidates would not vote for either as well.  Either one is going to raise taxes, spend more and make government expand.   They are both insiders in that they are part of the machine. They have to ask for favors to get elected and then have to repay those after they get elected. There are no Mavericks here.  

Henry Plainview wrote: Slartibartfast wrote: <h3>Greg Palast</h3>Writings of a progressive investigative journalist.Not a dinky personal website.So you don't care if legitimate voters are denied their right to vote as long as you like the outcome?I think it's time for the 9/11 truther thread. No, I didn't say that, don't twist my words. I don't believe the accusations because I haven't seen enough evidence to prove that anything that may or may not have happened was due to malice and not merely incompetence. Please don't tell me your a bloody 9/11 Truther.

That was a question, not a twisting of your words.  If you want to see the evidence, Greg has plenty to back up what he's saying.  You might start with his book, The Best Democracy Money Can Buy.  Of for free you can go to his web site and check out a couple of BBC TV broadcasts on the subject of the 2000 and 2004 elections.

Actually, I can attribute 9/11 to incompetence and indifference.  There is of course no shortage of people with looney theories about that.  Guess you totally missed my joke there.  You were offering to kill yourself if someone started up a 9/11 truther thread.




Edited by Slartibartfast - September 02 2008 at 19:14

Heyyy, lookie what I found:



and there's also this:








Edited by Slartibartfast - September 02 2008 at 19:45

Dang, and I was just about to vote for them.



OK, looking at the original photo, she still has the look of a crazy woman in her eyes...

By the way, I found the clown car pic to be inaccurate, still funny, and only somewhat inappropriate.
I just had to share those.

Henry Plainview wrote: Someone who knows how to use to Photoshop a little bit better, although that is also a much easier job, but still stupid and tasteless if it's implying what I think it is.   What will you post next, the even more poorly constructed Juneau poster?   Come on, you should be above this. Did you actually listen when Obama spoke? Hawkwise wrote: Oh like Fox  NBC or CNN yeah them guys really know how to give us the Truth Eh ? I give up. You can't win these battles with logic and reason because these people are beyond both. If you are in fact implying what I think you are.

And, oh yes, you will be back, you will...








And by request:


Oh and by the way, I don't waste my time watching conventions.  They're so conventional.






Edited by Slartibartfast - September 02 2008 at 20:29