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Points: 6419 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2008 at 06:37
Originally posted by Avantgardehead Avantgardehead wrote:

Sunny Day Real Estate is incredible, definitely my favorite true emo band. Mineral and Christie Front Drive are swell as well, and I must check out this Cap'n Jazz...
 
Thing is, Sunny Day aren't really true emo. More along the lines of post-grunge. A good introduction to the genre, as they're very accessible, but not really interesting compared to many other bands. Two first albums are the only ones worth bothering with, and the only ones remotely emo-sounding.
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Points: 1170 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2008 at 17:52
Beh, you have your opinions and I have mine. I love all four of their albums and think that most people are way too picky when it comes to them.
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^Yes, they are all good, however, I prefer the second two, especially The Rising TIde, and I really enjoy The Fire Theft too.
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Fire Theft debut = win.
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Points: 1170 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2008 at 04:03
I haven't heard The Fire Theft. I do have Jeremy Enigk's two solo albums which are pretty top-notch. Big%20smile
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Originally posted by Avantgardehead Avantgardehead wrote:

Beh, you have your opinions and I have mine. I love all four of their albums and think that most people are way too picky when it comes to them.


I do have the advantage of having listened to a large amount of music in that particular genre. The problem with SDRE, the later albums in particular, is that they sound more like today's pseudo-emo than actual emo.

Anyway, I've already derailed this thread, and I'm not in the mood for heated off-topic arguments. Of course we all have different opinions, we're free to like whatever we want. Genres are a bit more absolute than opinions though, so do keep in mind what I've said even if you don't necessarily agree, if you're planning to delve deeper into old emo.

Right. At the Drive-In. One of my favourite bands. I think I already said that in this thread... Anyway, mithrandir speaks truth on the subject of AtD-I's importance for post-hardcore. Post-hardcore was right from the start a pretty adventurous genre, if anything AtD-I got into the game late, seeing as their early stuff is more straight forward. The genre on the whole seems to have stagnated these days, probably due in part to mislabelling and revisionism (though not as bad as in the case of emo).

Anyway, splendid band, At the Drive-In, regardless of whether or not they actually made something unique or revolutionary.
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Points: 933 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2008 at 14:54
Originally posted by Philéas Philéas wrote:

Originally posted by Avantgardehead Avantgardehead wrote:

Beh, you have your opinions and I have mine. I love all four of their albums and think that most people are way too picky when it comes to them.


I do have the advantage of having listened to a large amount of music in that particular genre. The problem with SDRE, the later albums in particular, is that they sound more like today's pseudo-emo than actual emo.

Anyway, I've already derailed this thread, and I'm not in the mood for heated off-topic arguments. Of course we all have different opinions, we're free to like whatever we want. Genres are a bit more absolute than opinions though, so do keep in mind what I've said even if you don't necessarily agree, if you're planning to delve deeper into old emo.

Right. At the Drive-In. One of my favourite bands. I think I already said that in this thread... Anyway, mithrandir speaks truth on the subject of AtD-I's importance for post-hardcore. Post-hardcore was right from the start a pretty adventurous genre, if anything AtD-I got into the game late, seeing as their early stuff is more straight forward. The genre on the whole seems to have stagnated these days, probably due in part to mislabelling and revisionism (though not as bad as in the case of emo).

Anyway, splendid band, At the Drive-In, regardless of whether or not they actually made something unique or revolutionary.
 
I like SDRE "smile" album quite a bit, but indeed it was one of the earliest commercially successful albums from the Poppy branch of the Emo tree that went on to influence countless of other bands that ushered in an even more mainstream accessible brand of Emo-Pop that most people are familiar with, JimmyEatWorld, Dashboard Confessional, etc ...yeah "Emo" has quite a complex history, a lot of different factions of people arguing endlessly about what is and isn't "Real Emo", kind of dumb, but hey thats what forums culture is all about I guess,
 
Hey Philéas, do you have a last.fm account? you should add me if you do! 
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Points: 6419 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2008 at 15:46
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Originally posted by Philéas Philéas wrote:

Originally posted by Avantgardehead Avantgardehead wrote:

Beh, you have your opinions and I have mine. I love all four of their albums and think that most people are way too picky when it comes to them.


I do have the advantage of having listened to a large amount of music in that particular genre. The problem with SDRE, the later albums in particular, is that they sound more like today's pseudo-emo than actual emo.

 
I don't see how you're drawing that parallel. They have a distinctive sound on those two, more along the lines of post-grunge as you said earlier, mixed with some eastern influences and occasional proggy fluorishes in the arrangements.
 
Maybe I'm not thinking of the same bands you mean by "pseudo-emo." When you say that, I think of bands like Hawthorne Heights or Taking Back Sunday, and that comparison sounds too far off to make sense.


Edited by Moatilliatta - September 02 2008 at 20:35
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Points: 3083 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 02 2008 at 20:31
Also, I think you're putting too much emphasis on what it sounds like. I really don't care what kind of music it is. Whatever it is, it's good, and that's what I'm looking for.


Edited by Moatilliatta - September 02 2008 at 20:36
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Points: 1170 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2008 at 04:47
Yeah, SDRE totally sounds like Dashboard Confessional...
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Points: 6419 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 03 2008 at 16:28
A lot more so than, for example, Native Nod or Still Life
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