Exciting New 1970-1975 Genesis Box Set! |
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twostikks
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Posted: August 26 2008 at 08:46 | |
I would think the live material would make a perfect 4th box. "Genesis Live" (with the other Rainbow tracks included on the 1st Archive Box, maybe resequenced; Seconds Out (with any extra material), 3 Sides Live (with any extra material!), Live tracks from the Mama and Invisible Touch tours, and then I imagine they'd include "The Long and The Shorts" from the We Can't Dance era (although I think I could handle it if some of that wasn't included). Damn, that box would be a TON of material. But it would be great to have an expanded "Seconds Out"!Come to think of it, they could probably release 2 "LIVE" Box sets; 1st one with everything including Hackett, 2nd one post-Hackett. That would work for me.
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Gary
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arcer
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Posted: August 26 2008 at 14:16 | |
To clear up a few things: this sequence of reissues features REMIXES of the albums, not simply remasters. The members of Genesis and engineer Nick Davis went back to the original master tapes and remixed the tracks to take advantage of modern technologies. Once these are released the old '90s so-called Definitive Remasters will cease to exist as these new mixes will supercede them. Thus these are effectively 'different' albums. How much different the first bunch of albums will be remains to be seen. With the later albums, all recorded on 16 track or more, it was a relatively simple task to revisit the tracks. Not so with the 1970-75 set as these were recorded on sometimes 8-track recorders with the tracks 'bounced down' to create more space on the multi-track to give more tracks. Therefore you might get a guitar and a synth line recorded on two seprarate track and then re-recorded onto a third, freeing up the first two to be wiped and used for new tracks. In this way you cannot revisit individual tracks and clean them up or reEQ them because you get what you get. Apparently it was a tricky process with the 70-75 set. Also someone else was enquiring why the DVD discs timing are the same as the CD. This is because the new sets come (wonderfully) in a variety of formats. The CD also carried an SACD layer and the DVD is a DVD Audio disc that also carries the bonus DVD Video material. Nice to see Genesis supporting audiophile formats (even if they are now largely obsolete). If you do have a home DVD player, some allow you play DVD-A or SACD discs. Give it a whjirl through your amp, the res is higher and should provide more detail, air and space than standard rubbish Red Book CD. Me, I can't wait for these discs. The 76-82 set sounds awesome. Edited by arcer - August 26 2008 at 14:17 |
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Garion81
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Posted: August 26 2008 at 14:48 | |
Not according to Prog Archives.
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Alberto Muņoz
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Posted: August 26 2008 at 15:03 | |
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Roland113
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Posted: August 26 2008 at 20:54 | |
Interesting that you should ask, here's the fan club e-mail that I received today: Following on from the massive success of the Genesis DVD 'When In Rome,' which topped the music DVD chart for 3 consecutive weeks, the box set 'Genesis: 1970 - 1975' contains the five studio albums from 'Trespass' to 'The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway' plus an extras disc full of rarities including Genesis Plays Jackson, an aborted soundtrack project for a BBC Art film on the work of painter Michael Jackson. Enjoy, Tom |
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SouthSideoftheSky
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Posted: September 20 2008 at 07:22 | |
The set includes five albums - TRESPASS, NURSERY CRYME, FOXTROT, SELLING ENGLAND BY THE POUND and THE LAMB LIES DOWN ON BROADWAY, plus an extra disc with EXTRAS 1970-1975, a newly assembled compilation only available with this collection.
5 CLASSIC GENESIS ALBUMS Box Set Exclusive Bonus:
"Extra Tracks 1970-1975". A Collection of B-Sides and Rare Tracks. A CD+DVD Set, Also in Newly Mixed Stereo and 5.1 Surround more info see: http://www.genesis-music.com/news/news.php?uid=392
If anyone has more detailed info about the extras please post it here!
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Nightfly
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Posted: September 21 2008 at 13:31 | |
It's a must despite the expense.
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JIF8882
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Posted: October 12 2008 at 05:11 | |
Especially Trespass, as it wasn't remastered in '94 like the others were
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J Dawg
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Angelo
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Posted: October 12 2008 at 05:53 | |
SACD/DVD in Europ, CD/DVD in North America. Are we being forced to buy SACD players over here???
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ISKC Rock Radio
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Walker
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Posted: October 12 2008 at 11:49 | |
I believe they will be dual-layer SACD's with a CD layer as well as an SACD Surround Sound mix, so it will play in any CD player.
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JIF8882
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Posted: October 13 2008 at 06:43 | |
It's only the studio albums being remixed
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J Dawg
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Angelo
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Posted: October 13 2008 at 10:26 | |
@Walker: that would be great, thanks !
@JIF8882: I still don't have all of them, this could be a good opportunity |
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ISKC Rock Radio
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 06:34 | |
These guys really need to get their act together and put out some new prog. Have they not got the memo? Prog is back and in force. But then, they've already made tons of money going commercial. Perhaps they are no longer in it for just the money?
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 10:14 | |
Can`t really get too excited aboout this band anymore. They`ve just did too much damage to themselves.For me they sold out. I will admit though that occasionally I`l throw one of their pre- LLDOB albums on the turntable close my eyes and pretend that all the commercial garbage never happened.
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Padraic
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 10:17 | |
I don't think they went "commercial" purely for the money, though obviously it didn't hurt. Phil Collins just plain doesn't like "prog" music. Period. |
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Alberto Muņoz
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Posted: October 14 2008 at 10:48 | |
Well for the record i'll said that the put well crafted songs in his POP music period, at least better than other horrible POP groups.
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AlanD
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Posted: October 15 2008 at 07:39 | |
The thing I'm getting most excited about, apart from at last having the 'lost' Genesis Plays Jackson stuff, is the fact that the albums have been painstakingly remixed/remastered in 5.1 Surround Sound. If they sound as good as the recent Trick of the Tail 5.1 remastering job (which sounds truly magnificent) I will be in seventh heaven.
Should've used the classic Paul Whitehead lettering on the box though, instead of the Collins-era We Can't Dance lettering - never mind!
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AlanD
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JIF8882
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Posted: October 18 2008 at 05:56 | |
Wonder if FYE will carry the new Genesis box set?
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J Dawg
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jmarkwilson
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Posted: November 08 2008 at 18:24 | |
Got mine today
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mark
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The Quiet One
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Posted: November 08 2008 at 18:38 | |
I completely agree about Genesis Live with more live tracks with Gabriel!! I want to hear Supper's Ready live with GABRIEL!!! |
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