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    Posted: August 25 2008 at 21:26
so ive been running through different modes lately, and all of them make sense and allow me to use them to make actual songs except for locrian. I know its suppose to sound kind of dark and exotic but i cant get any chord progressions out of it that make it make musical sense to my ear. Can any one help me?
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Points: 424 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2008 at 23:19
Listen to metal: the Locrian mode is a staple of the genre.
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Points: 25210 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2008 at 23:30
Originally posted by WinterLight WinterLight wrote:

Listen to metal: the Locrian mode is a staple of the genre.


Even so, there is not a lot of locrian in metal unless speaking in extreme metal terms.
It's only more common in the more extreme genres, but at least before the extreme metal genres started popping up in the 80s, locrian was almost never used really.
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Points: 25210 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2008 at 23:33
And yeah, this is in the wrong section.
Just keep working at Locrian like you did the other modes. You need to understand the relation between scales/modes and chords too otherwise you wont really get it.
Locrian mode has a b3 and b5 in it, hence it makes a diminished chord.
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Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by WinterLight WinterLight wrote:

Listen to metal: the Locrian mode is a staple of the genre.


Even so, there is not a lot of locrian in metal unless speaking in extreme metal terms.
It's only more common in the more extreme genres, but at least before the extreme metal genres started popping up in the 80s, locrian was almost never used really.



Well, as long as you include thrash amongst the extreme genres, then we agree--a lot of the early stuff was based on blues scales or the Aeolian minor.  Also: there's the outright chromaticism in metal throughout the ages, as it were.
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Thrash is an extreme metal genre, so I agree with you thereThumbs%20Up Although I tend to see thrash as being more Aeolian and Phyrgian based for the most part (although I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule and I myself have written thrash metal songs with locrian too), with Locrian perhaps more of a death metal sound as such.
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Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Thrash is an extreme metal genre, so I agree with you thereThumbs%20Up Although I tend to see thrash as being more Aeolian and Phyrgian based for the most part (although I'm sure there are exceptions to the rule and I myself have written thrash metal songs with locrian too), with Locrian perhaps more of a death metal sound as such.


To be honest, I don't think a lot of the bands thought about modality--maybe I'm underestimating them.  We can analyze them after the fact, of course, but our conclusions don't imply intent.  It just so happens that Phrygian and Locrian modes have an "evil" or "dark" tone, and so a metal musician (who inevitably aims for that sound) is likely to stumble upon them.




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Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

And yeah, this is in the wrong section.
Just keep working at Locrian like you did the other modes. You need to understand the relation between scales/modes and chords too otherwise you wont really get it.
Locrian mode has a b3 and b5 in it, hence it makes a diminished chord.


That would be my suggestion: Make a chord sequence which includes a diminished chord, and use locrian to improvise over it. Smile
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