Herbie Hancock

Joe Zawinul (sp?), Wayne Shorter and Larry Young (who is already on so many albums on this site ie Santana, Miles, McLaughlin and Tony Williams Lifetime)should be added next. This has less to do with personal taste, but more with following the flow of ongoing additions and their relationship with people already on PA.

Also, I appreciate the idea of allowing progressive jazz fusion on this site and discluding that huge glut of mundane jazz fusion. In that spirit I would like to recommend the spin-offs from Herbie's most progressive band, Sextant, and would like to recommend solo albums by Bennie Maupin, Eddie Henderson and Julian Priester. Our good friend 'Roctapus' should be able to help with that.

Edited by Easy Money - August 22 2008 at 23:26

micky wrote: darkshade wrote: im down for Brubeck and Coltrane, but i wont be upset if they arent added. I can understand why a lot of people would prefer they NOT get added. But i'd be happy if they did. Im kinda neutral i guess. btw, is Hancock still being looked at, or is it just a waiting game now? it seems most people want him here, and there have been many good arguments for addition. Hugues has asked to do the bio....  when given the go ahead.. he'll be added.  There have been many good arguments, none more so than by Martin.. by  those who know the music.. agree for the most part. The only sticky point seems to be  the 'rock' aspect...  but what is 'rock' anyway...  that has different meanings to different people.   Sly and the Family Stone for example... Funk?... Rock?...  both?... ask lots of people.. will get lots of answers.   That is what we have experts and genre teams for.. to make those subtle distinctions.

 ^ funny you mention Hayes, a friend just played me ...To Be Continued  (1970)  and I was quite surprised to see several songs well over ten minutes, and the strange 15-minute 'Medly:Ike's Mood l'    

Just heard his three albums from '70 to '72 and I'm not too keen on them. Nowhere near as song-oriented as I like. 

That being typed, I didn't hear much in the way of prog, unless jazz-fusion is prog by definition.

jammun wrote: micky wrote: darkshade wrote: im down for Brubeck and Coltrane, but i wont be upset if they arent added. I can understand why a lot of people would prefer they NOT get added. But i'd be happy if they did. Im kinda neutral i guess. btw, is Hancock still being looked at, or is it just a waiting game now? it seems most people want him here, and there have been many good arguments for addition. Hugues has asked to do the bio....  when given the go ahead.. he'll be added.  There have been many good arguments, none more so than by Martin.. by  those who know the music.. agree for the most part. The only sticky point seems to be  the 'rock' aspect...  but what is 'rock' anyway...  that has different meanings to different people.   Sly and the Family Stone for example... Funk?... Rock?...  both?... ask lots of people.. will get lots of answers.   That is what we have experts and genre teams for.. to make those subtle distinctions.    That's been my only ? with regard to Herbie.  In one sense he clearly belongs, in another sense he's more funk a la Sly or with the earlier stuff (Sextant) who knows what.   But I'm thinking when Sly was booked at Woodstock no one was thinking genres.  It was rock.  I mean, ya didn't see the Temptations there, unless my memory (always suspect) is failing me.

exactly why I used Sly is an example   'Rock'?  what is it anyway...  has different meaning for different people.  Steely Dan was mentioned by Richard once as being a regular fixture on Jazz-Rock broadcasts on radio...  yet how many would label their music.. pop rather than rock..far too many I'm afraid

see rock as a more general terms than just screaming geetars.  Rock is a HUGE umbrella.. and always has been.. your Woodstock example being perfect.

jammun wrote: micky wrote: darkshade wrote: im down for Brubeck and Coltrane, but i wont be upset if they arent added. I can understand why a lot of people would prefer they NOT get added. But i'd be happy if they did. Im kinda neutral i guess. btw, is Hancock still being looked at, or is it just a waiting game now? it seems most people want him here, and there have been many good arguments for addition. Hugues has asked to do the bio....  when given the go ahead.. he'll be added.  There have been many good arguments, none more so than by Martin.. by  those who know the music.. agree for the most part. The only sticky point seems to be  the 'rock' aspect...  but what is 'rock' anyway...  that has different meanings to different people.   Sly and the Family Stone for example... Funk?... Rock?...  both?... ask lots of people.. will get lots of answers.   That is what we have experts and genre teams for.. to make those subtle distinctions.    That's been my only ? with regard to Herbie.  In one sense he clearly belongs, in another sense he's more funk a la Sly or with the earlier stuff (Sextant) who knows what.   But I'm thinking when Sly was booked at Woodstock no one was thinking genres.  It was rock.  I mean, ya didn't see the Temptations there, unless my memory (always suspect) is failing me.

Edited by Sean Trane - August 23 2008 at 09:00

Sean Trane wrote: jammun wrote: micky wrote: darkshade wrote: im down for Brubeck and Coltrane, but i wont be upset if they arent added. I can understand why a lot of people would prefer they NOT get added. But i'd be happy if they did. Im kinda neutral i guess. btw, is Hancock still being looked at, or is it just a waiting game now? it seems most people want him here, and there have been many good arguments for addition. Hugues has asked to do the bio....  when given the go ahead.. he'll be added.  There have been many good arguments, none more so than by Martin.. by  those who know the music.. agree for the most part. The only sticky point seems to be  the 'rock' aspect...  but what is 'rock' anyway...  that has different meanings to different people.   Sly and the Family Stone for example... Funk?... Rock?...  both?... ask lots of people.. will get lots of answers.   That is what we have experts and genre teams for.. to make those subtle distinctions.    That's been my only ? with regard to Herbie.  In one sense he clearly belongs, in another sense he's more funk a la Sly or with the earlier stuff (Sextant) who knows what.   But I'm thinking when Sly was booked at Woodstock no one was thinking genres.  It was rock.  I mean, ya didn't see the Temptations there, unless my memory (always suspect) is failing me.    I'd say I'd do the bio if no-one else volunteered, but I rreally have enough todo right now.... so f anyone feels like it..... BE MY GUEST     I think that it's important to highlight his Mwansishi era/band (that's Mwandishi, Crossings ans Sextant) and his Head Hunters era/days. Let's not include the non-Hancocck  Headhunters albums, though.

hahaha. sorry Hugues.. I must have misread you. 

Any takers.. if not.. I'll do it

and I agree..  the non-Hancock Headhunters is not included.

Well, I guess at least all this means that you'll also have to accept Jamiroquai.

Easy Money wrote: I'll do the Herbie bio if no one else wants to, I don't want to elbow out you or Darkshade though. Check it out, first Sancious review up and running, prog meets jazz fusion just like Ivan and Mike were looking for.

go ahead John was hoping someone would take it.. it's yours... working on additions of my own now..

checking out the review  

micky wrote: Easy Money wrote: I'll do the Herbie bio if no one else wants to, I don't want to elbow out you or Darkshade though. Check it out, first Sancious review up and running, prog meets jazz fusion just like Ivan and Mike were looking for. go ahead John was hoping someone would take it.. it's yours... working on additions of my own now.. checking out the review