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    Posted: August 22 2008 at 22:48
Okay, I have taken up interest in the classical side of things, but I am VERY new to the genre. I am currently most into post-metal, the more extreme variants or doom metal, the highly climacitc forms of post-rock, some dark ambient, and much more sinister sounding music.
 
Being that classical is such an expansive genre and that I am new to it, I am looking for some stuff that has similar qualities to what Im currently into. Basically something very dark and climactic.
 
Seeing as many proggers seem to be into classical, I figure this is as good as a place as any to ask for help. So, any suggestions? Thanks in advance.
 
Note to mods: Im not 100% sure if this is in the right place. I didnt put it in the prog recommendations section because this isnt prog. Anyway, please move this if its in the wrong section. 


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well I love the atonalities and angles of Schoenberg, Honegger, Bartok, basically you can't go wrong in the 20th Century
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Wow quick response. Thanks Thumbs%20Up
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Nothing beats Stravinski's "Sacre du Printemps", or "Rites of Spring", to use the English title. It really rocks, and I mean it. It starts quite mellow, but don't let that fool you. And speaking about dark: Can you think of something darker than a girl that has to dance herself to death to pacify the Gods of Spring?


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Just a couple pieces I'd reccomend
 
"Mars, Bringer of war" by Gustav Holst
"Ride of the Valkyries" by Richard Wagner
 
These are two very popular pieces of classical music that influenced a lot of metal.

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I suggest Bach and most Baroque. I think a lot of darker classical music lies within that genre, especially Matthew's Passion and the solo harpsichord works of Scarlatti. Also as mentioned above, Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring" and "The Firebird" are good pieces for your tastes, and also "Mars, Bringer of War" is a brilliant example. May i suggest the overplayed, yet classic, Moonlight Sonata? 3rd movement especially.
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Points: 1698 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2008 at 15:51
Oh yes. Bach definetely had some dark stuff that influenced a lot of rock/metal. My piano teacher even said that a good rock pianist should be influenced by Bach.

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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

well I love the atonalities and angles of Schoenberg
 
what the man said....Clap
 
start with his 'Verklarte Nacht' (1899)...then, maybe Alban Berg's Violin Concerto...Wink
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im a huge fan of chopin if your looking for simply beautiful, sometimes dark piano pieces. mind blowing technicality. the nocturnes and etudes and walzes are . . . ahhh. beethovens symphonies starting with 5 are pretty incredible as well adn they can get pretty dark. cant go wrong with anything that man composed for piano either.
ill second the stravinsky and shoenberg recomendations as well. Clap
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Wow Clap. Thanks guys

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TBH, i can't really slate anything from the classical catalogue as it is all very well written. Just dive in anywhere and you'll find something worth listening to. You'll eventually find your preference.
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Points: 4202 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 15:49
Originally posted by fandango fandango wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

well I love the atonalities and angles of Schoenberg
 
what the man said....Clap
 
start with his 'Verklarte Nacht' (1899)...then, maybe Alban Berg's Violin Concerto...Wink


All for that, and Bartok.

String quartets by Shostakovich. His last, no. 15 might the darkest piece of music I know of (six parts, all in adagio). Listen to the opening of his most well known: no. 8 here.


Try late Schubert for Solopiano: D.899 & D.935 + String Quartet no. 14 (Death and the Maiden).
Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
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Points: 3126 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 29 2008 at 09:47
I second most of these recommendations, especially JS Bach.  Bruckner might be worth a go too. His symphonies are a bit deep, but rewarding once they "click".
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Night On Bald Mountain - Modest Mussorgsky

Very dark, sinister, and highly climactic!
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