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    Posted: August 23 2008 at 11:42
hey dudes, do anyone here think that prog music is in the best moment???

i'm sure that there are awesome stuff from 70's and 80's, but i think the modern production shows clearly everything that is playing, so, to me the best era is after 2000, and i like so much some stuff from 90's.

for example, look at Uriah heep. the album demons and wizards is pretty cool, but the new album wake the sleeper is awesome, cuz the instruments got a good production, and i think that demons and wizards could be so good than it if they make a remaster version.

so, what do you guys think about???
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2008 at 11:51
The '70s and '60 because it was groundbreaking, the '70s because of the sheer quality and daring nature of the artists.  Content will always trump "production qualities" in my book.  I love PLENTY of new bands, but as a period the '70s will not be topped historically.  JMO.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2008 at 11:55
Time will tell...
 
We know now that the 70s was better than the 80s (for the prog-rock scene) and certainly from the 90s (some people may disagree) because we are able now to check the past and do the comparisons (always subjective, anyway).
 
I think that the best perspective will be achieved around 2025. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2008 at 12:12
LOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2008 at 12:37
90s/00s. I think prog is more eclectic nowadays as we have a lot more genres to take influence from. That factor + good production + amazing standard nof musicianship = f**king excellent music. That's what i firmly believe, hence i listen to a hell of a lot more modern prog. VDGG are an exception because they are way ahead of their time with Pawn Hearts and Godbluff and Still Life.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2008 at 13:00
No such thing, once it got started it will never stop, the '80's were a bit of downturn but get digging, many gems are out there, the '90's seems to have marked the beginning of the next generation of prog,  Very happy to be around and experiencing the '00's...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2008 at 13:24
90's and 00's
 
Simply because of being able to experience Dream Theater, Porcupine Tree, Opeth, BTBAM, Three, Tool, and a lot of other great bands..while still being able to experience Rush and a couple other great 70s-80s bands live.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:02

For me, the best prog era is
1969 - 1976

After this a lot of great music was recorded, but the ever shining prog records were recorded in this golden age. The time of true experimentation. The glory of the English scene, the kosmic vibe of the German scene and the loveliness of the Italian scene and ofcourse the gentle prog from the Dutch scene.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 06:06
I think prog as an era is ongoing...

I prefer a much more broad variety of modern music, much of it prog, but that's likely because I'm young...

the 60s/70s era gets a lot of love from me too though, which is why I can't safely say one decade is better than the other--especially sincethe 00s aren't over yet.

Prog is an ever-developing phantasm, and a lot of it is more than worth hearing, no matter what decade it came out of.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 07:16
I'm 20 years old so I can only experience what is happening now.. and I like it very much! A lot experimental bands and a lot of groundbraking artists.. But still I guess these bands never weren't around without the 69-78 bands who laid the foundations
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 11:58
I gotta go with the current generation.

Yeah, the 70's started it all but modern prog is just so much more dynamic and exciting. With modern technology musicians are now able to accomplish what bands 30 years ago would have never thought possible. Mellotrons have been replaced with more realistic sounding keyboard patches, and a variety of new guitar effects and various other devices give musicians the opportunity to experiment with a wider variety of sounds.

There's also the internet, which allows artists to promote and distribute their music independently, removing the pressure of major labels and encouraging artistic freedom.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 12:21
Until 1970, prog was still rather proto. The first albums which can properly be called proto-prog were Revolver (The Beatles) and A Quick One (The Who, mostly because of the title track)., both dating from 1966.
 
The best prog era was, IMHO, from 1971 to 1976: the groundbreaking prog dinosaurs (Genesis, Yes, ELP, Pink Floyd, Gentle Giant and many others) had reached the peak of their creativity.
 
Hereafter, these bands grew weary of producing masterpieces and the punk/new wave hype had some other devastating effects. Among the view prog highlights of this era were: Danger Money (UK), Nude (Camel) and the Rush albums of the period. In 1983, prog was revived by bands like Marillion and IQ. But all of these lean on the masters of the 70's.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 12:34
For sheer experimentation and historically, the 70's are the best decade (if there is such way to decide such question) but nowadays we live an exciting new time, with new groups coming everyday influenced by the oldies, but giving something new in return as well, and, has as been pointed before, the oldies are coming back to make their final aparition in the prog-scene as well! What more can YOU ask? Clap

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 12:44
70s for me  there are some Gems in the 80s  but not many, Most Music in the 80s be  it prog or whatever was poor
the production sounds of the 80s  i just dont like, But i also think Prog really was a Music of its Time the 70s
everything that has followed since is just Music , having always to try and label  are Music has off course become harder and harder to label as more and more  Music crosses over , but hey ho its all good fun Right ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 13:22
I don't know...my album won't be released until the end of this year... Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 14:14
70s without hesitation. Nothing that came out afterwards was on the same caliber of musicianship and progress.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 19:28
The 60's and 70's were groundbreaking and new, so really for Prog that was the best era.  Who would have thought that we had Chuck Berry and Elvis at the end of the fifties and within 10 years we had Pink Floyd, King Crimson, and tremendous advances in music beyond belief in such a short time.

The 80's were a hideous down turn.  80's music is hideous rubbish (sorry)

There were some very good improvements in the 90's

But now - in the 2000's - we are at an exciting new stage - Prog music has developed well from its roots and is much more diverse now, with much better production and recording facilities + some of the musicianship is awesome because it is always trying to be better.  Also - it is no longer embarrasing to like it, it is more respected now than it has been for 30 years or more.  A new tidal wave of Progressive music is coming in, with bands like Oceansize, Opeth, Amplifier, Mars Volta, Sigur Ros, Porcupine Tree, Pineapple Thief (to name but a very few) leading the way.

The cheese has gone, and now we have an incredibly wide range of music that no other genre can even hope to get near!  It's exciting I tell you!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 20:29
Right now is the age where the newer wave of Prog is becoming more prominent. Not only that, the genre is expanding infinitely making it hard to categorize progressive rock as only ONE sub-genre of Rock music but as lots of different sub-genres of Progressive Rock.

But when did this all began? The early 70s of course.

That's the time period when there was an explosion of such awesome Progressive Rock music that put Progressive Rock on the map with the other Rock sub-genres and then being unfortunately covered by the Punk movement. Most of the classics and top albums are from that era.

If this explosion of music didn't occur in the early 70s, we wouldn't even have any of those awesome Progressive Metal bands because Progressive Rock wouldn't have existed...

Hopefully the mess I just typed up makes some kind of sense.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 24 2008 at 20:37

I don't think, even years down the road, prog fans will get over the 70s. Personally, though, I think this current decade is the best. There is better production, more diversity, expansion from ideas founded in the 70s, etc. Maybe this decade isn't as historically groundbreaking, but I think this era is still innovative. And naturally, the level of skill that many bands today exhibit are beyond that of the 70s bands.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2008 at 08:41
Originally posted by Atkingani Atkingani wrote:

Time will tell...
 
We know now that the 70s was better than the 80s (for the prog-rock scene) and certainly from the 90s (some people may disagree) because we are able now to check the past and do the comparisons (always subjective, anyway).
 
I think that the best perspective will be achieved around 2025. Wink
 
 
Very well said AtkinganiClap, i'm agree
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