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omri
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Posted: August 19 2008 at 12:49 |
I know most of these bands and I agree with most posts saying that most of these bands / artists have some prog elements and as said before this is why we have the prog related sub-genre.
I devide the list to 4 parts :
1. truely prog bands like talk talk (their last 2 album are fully prog) and moody blues who actually started it all.
2. Bands or artists in the begining of the 70's who was part of the revolution in popular music and were very influencial to others like Bowie, Deep purple, Led zeppelin and even the who (which I personally appreciate less). In a way Jefferson airplane also fit here with their american folk that was quite unusual at the time.
3. Bands with very few progy moments like the beatles (A day in life) or Sypertramp (School, I find the rest of COTC quite shallow and boring).
4. The doors - I find them not prog at all.
However, their inclusion (all of them) does not ruin the site at all. The only band that it's inclusion could cause a problem is the beatles since they are so popular everywhere but if that did not happen yet it will probably never happen.
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Luke. J
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Posted: August 19 2008 at 00:22 |
topofsm wrote:
If Coheed and Cambria were up there I'd definetely vote for them.
But no. I picked Muse. |
Second the first part
Am I now allowed to say that I do not want Miles Davis here? No? Ok, than I'll vote the band I never thought to find on progarchives, that is.. Iron Maiden! Highly influential to metal, yes, but does that make you qualified to Prog Related? Anyway, a great band..
Other candidates would be 10cc, Radiohead and Black Sabbath..
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topofsm
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Posted: August 18 2008 at 22:23 |
If Coheed and Cambria were up there I'd definetely vote for them.
But no. I picked Muse.
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jammun
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Posted: August 18 2008 at 21:28 |
C'mon, how are The Beatles pulling over 20%? Have you all no sense of history? Without them none of the other bands, nor any on this site other than perhaps good ol' Miles now causing much gnashing of teeth over in the fusion category, would even exist as a recording enterprise. The Beatles success encouraged, or in fact demanded, that record companies (those who wanted to stay in business anyway) invest in rock and roll, which allowed the rock spectrum to expand almost exponentially.
Go give a quick listen to the American Graffiti soundtrack. (BTW, very enjoyable music on it.) But if you think that prog was somehow going to crawl out of THAT primordial ooze you are mistaken.
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dzx
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Posted: August 18 2008 at 17:09 |
Mousoleum wrote:
I voted Beatles. Can't I ever escape their smug grasp? They're everywhere I go!!! I want to feel safe here at the PA.
Also, I'm quite upset that Kate Bush is on the list...and someone voted for Her!!! She is genius. |
seconded. Kate is a class artist just need to listen to The Dreaming. I also think Tori Amos is 'nearly' her equal but not quite. But the Beatles are the one of the most original and forward looking bands of the 60s and noone should ever forget that
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was that just an Am augmented minor 9th i heard? nice!
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Mousoleum
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Posted: August 18 2008 at 16:50 |
I voted Beatles. Can't I ever escape their smug grasp? They're everywhere I go!!! I want to feel safe here at the PA.
Also, I'm quite upset that Kate Bush is on the list...and someone voted for Her!!! She is genius.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: August 18 2008 at 15:24 |
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Gog/Magog
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Posted: August 18 2008 at 08:09 |
Styx
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Some swear they see me weeping in the poppy fields of France
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Atavachron
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Posted: August 17 2008 at 15:28 |
^ yes, how easily we forget that Prog ruled the world at one point, however briefly.. heck, Passion Play was #1 on the US charts for a time, does that make it a pop record? ...maybe so
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Dean
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Posted: August 17 2008 at 15:14 |
^ not that chart Iván
progrules wrote:
Well, turned out to be an interesting poll, even more than I had expected !
Just some remarks from my part to elucidate:
1) I know I made my statement harshly, partly meant that way but also to elicit.
(I know I got a lot of bashing because of that but my main intention was to have this discussed)
2) The 25 bands that I chose have had at least one hit in the charts so that was the only criterion.
3) I'm neither a hater of any band nor a troublemaker on this site. I'm just a "purist".
4) I have a soft spot for bands that just make wonderful (progressive) jewels and don't get any financial benefit out of that and some of them don't even care. I think those are more or less the counterparts of the 25 listed above. |
hmm, who else (non PP or PR) has had singles chart success I wonder? Pink Floyd, Genesis, Yes, Jethro Tull, Marillion, Kraftwerk, Emerson Lake & Palmer, Hawkwind, Family, Rush, Peter Gabriel, Focus, Sigur Ros, The Nice, Osibisa, Blood Sweat and Tears, Rare Bird, David Sylvian (with Ryuichi Sakamoto), Argent, East of Eden, The Mars Volta, Fish, It Bites, Manfred Mann's Earth Band, The Strawbs, Mogwai, Robert Wyatt... (note, these are UK "hits" other bands, such as Ekseption & Supersister, have had singles success in their own country).
I have the opposite view - I want bands to get financial reward for their efforts, nothing would please me more than hearing Van der Graaf Generator, Dream Theater, Pendragon and Pain Of Salvation on daytime radio or seeing kids in the Mall wearing Ayreon, Sylvan or Grayceon t-shirts.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: August 17 2008 at 13:23 |
progrules wrote:
2) The 25 bands that I chose have had at least one hit in the charts so that was the only criterion.
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Nope, Moody Blues, Procol Harum neither Mike Oldfield have a vote.
Something logical in the last two.
BTW: I'm as purist and maybe more than you, as a fact I'm a proud purist, but this is a lost fight, save your energies progrules, all this bands are here to stay.
Iván
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Imadofus
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Posted: August 17 2008 at 13:07 |
KEEP 'EM ALL
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: August 17 2008 at 12:27 |
Procol Harum????????????
Is somebody crazy????
If there's a band that defines Proto Prog and makes this term worth is Procol Harum.
Now, ELO and Radiohead....I can live without them in Prog Archives, but they are here and won't vanish, so lets stop this kind of threads that will end in some kind of trouble.
Iván
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progrules
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Posted: August 17 2008 at 12:01 |
Well, turned out to be an interesting poll, even more than I had expected !
Just some remarks from my part to elucidate:
1) I know I made my statement harshly, partly meant that way but also to elicit.
(I know I got a lot of bashing because of that but my main intention was to have this discussed)
2) The 25 bands that I chose have had at least one hit in the charts so that was the only criterion.
3) I'm neither a hater of any band nor a troublemaker on this site. I'm just a "purist".
4) I have a soft spot for bands that just make wonderful (progressive) jewels and don't get any financial benefit out of that and some of them don't even care. I think those are more or less the counterparts of the 25 listed above.
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A day without prog is a wasted day
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Philip
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Posted: August 17 2008 at 11:10 |
Possibly in this order: Radiohead, Muse, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden
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dzx
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Posted: August 14 2008 at 20:07 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
I can't believe the Beatles and Radiohead are taking this kind of beating. Two groups I happen to like a lot. You swine!
I picked on Iron Maiden.
And nobody better pick on Moody Blues, Kate Bush, or Mike Oldfield or I will have to kick your ass!
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I know, The Beatles ......key proto-prog band...... As I said before you guys dont know what your talking about!
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was that just an Am augmented minor 9th i heard? nice!
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: August 14 2008 at 19:55 |
I can't believe the Beatles and Radiohead are taking this kind of beating. Two groups I happen to like a lot. You swine! I picked on Iron Maiden. And nobody better pick on Moody Blues, Kate Bush, or Mike Oldfield or I will have to kick your ass!
Edited by Slartibartfast - August 14 2008 at 20:02
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Okocha
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Posted: August 14 2008 at 11:03 |
Iron (not Butterfly)!!!
Edited by Okocha - August 14 2008 at 11:04
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tszirmay
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Posted: August 13 2008 at 18:10 |
^^^^^^ Favorite Beatles tune HEY BULLDOG! Whadyasay? I said Woof! Ya know anymore?
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I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth.
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Yorkie X
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Posted: August 13 2008 at 11:24 |
polls like these have legs
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