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The first description also sounds like Shub-Niggurath who sound nothing like Guapo. Wink

Listen the guitar on Shub-Niggurath albums, it's even more agony (but good agony) than Trigaux. Big%20smile

I listened to Shub-Niggurath's third album earlier and oh my... it's quite a departure from Les Morts Vont Vite yet it's utterly brilliant as well!

It goes further way from chamber prog and sounds completely alien.  It sounds far less structured and melodic but I love the chaotic madness!

It's a push for me, as to whether it's darker than Les Morts Vont Vite or not... but oh my, is it a good album!

Just be careful though... don't expect a follow-on from Les Mort Vont Vite (or the self-titled debut), this is proper avant-prog.  This is noisey, harsh, unmelodic, clinical and clunky.  I love it!

Oh well, at least I tried!! Tongue  Music is 'as hard to describe as the taste of strawberries'. Wink

I haven't heard Shub-Niggurath yet... Cry  Soon, I hope!  They are starting to look essential...
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Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

The first description also sounds like Shub-Niggurath who sound nothing like Guapo. Wink

Listen the guitar on Shub-Niggurath albums, it's even more agony (but good agony) than Trigaux. Big%20smile

I listened to Shub-Niggurath's third album earlier and oh my... it's quite a departure from Les Morts Vont Vite yet it's utterly brilliant as well!

It goes further way from chamber prog and sounds completely alien.  It sounds far less structured and melodic but I love the chaotic madness!

It's a push for me, as to whether it's darker than Les Morts Vont Vite or not... but oh my, is it a good album!

Just be careful though... don't expect a follow-on from Les Mort Vont Vite (or the self-titled debut), this is proper avant-prog.  This is noisey, harsh, unmelodic, clinical and clunky.  I love it!

Oh well, at least I tried!! Tongue  Music is 'as hard to describe as the taste of strawberries'. Wink

I haven't heard Shub-Niggurath yet... Cry  Soon, I hope!  They are starting to look essential...


Les Morts Vont Vite will suit you very nicely.  Wink
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Aksak Maboul is a really great band.  I am thoroughly enjoying both their albums - currently listening to their debut, Onze Danses Pour Combattre La Migraine, and it's a varied and interesting work, borrows from a lot of different styles.
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Present features Daniel Denis, who was drummer of UZ, so they sound similar... but UZ have more brass, whilst Present are more guitar orientated.  Infact, they're more electrified.



I'm reminded of that "it's just a bunch of wining trumpets" guy, because UZ doesn't actually feature any brass at all.  Not until Heatwave anyways.  n00b. 

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Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Aksak Maboul is a really great band.  I am thoroughly enjoying both their albums - currently listening to their debut, Onze Danses Pour Combattre La Migraine, and it's a varied and interesting work, borrows from a lot of different styles.


Onze Danses is pretty much the greatest thing ever. 

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Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Present features Daniel Denis, who was drummer of UZ, so they sound similar... but UZ have more brass, whilst Present are more guitar orientated.  Infact, they're more electrified.



I'm reminded of that "it's just a bunch of wining trumpets" guy, because UZ doesn't actually feature any brass at all.  Not until Heatwave anyways.  n00b. 


You spotted my deliberate mistake. Wink
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Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Les Morts Vont Vite will suit you very nicely.  Wink

Well, Pat, if you like it... what's the statistical likelihood that I'll like it as well...? Ermm

Almost certainly, going by recent experience! LOL
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Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Les Morts Vont Vite will suit you very nicely.  Wink

Well, Pat, if you like it... what's the statistical likelihood that I'll like it as well...? Ermm

Almost certainly, going by recent experience! LOL


I've only listened to it a couple of times, but it is very dark.
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Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Aksak Maboul is a really great band.  I am thoroughly enjoying both their albums - currently listening to their debut, Onze Danses Pour Combattre La Migraine, and it's a varied and interesting work, borrows from a lot of different styles.


Onze Danses is pretty much the greatest thing ever. 


Except the second album is significantly better.
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Nah.  The first album had character, a unique feel, a sort of charming naivete to it that I really like.  The second album was just a clusterf**k of RIO musicians stomping on Hollander and Kenis.  It's a decent album, but not nearly as good as the first.  

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The first album also has a bunch of duds and doesn't feel like a very cohesive album.  The second album is very consistent and at least feels like every song belongs on the same album as the others. Sure, it feels like a lesser Western Culture, but it's still pretty awesome.


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The second album is certainly consistent, but at the expense of FUN.  Sure, the first album has duds, but that's because it's just two guys screwing around and having fun, and making some very interesting music in the process.  The second album is just a second-rate Henry Cow.  

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And the first one is screwing around at the expense of sounding good.
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Nah.  

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I guess you'll have to agree to disagree guys.

I've heard both albums... but not recently, so I cannot remember them for the moment.
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I've got the house to myself until various inebriates return from the Beer Festival. Dead

What should I listen to right now do you think?
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Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

I've got the house to myself until various inebriates return from the Beer Festival. Dead

What should I listen to right now do you think?


Well if you had it, I'd suggest Shub-Niggurath's Les Morts Vont Vite but as you don't... erm, well I don't know.

Try Ahvak again. Big%20smile
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Haha, too late, I picked UZ, 'Heresie'.  And it's starting to work for me... Thumbs%20Up
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Also, tell me about Present, and why you not only like it, but why it seems like Hughesman will possibly enjoy it.
 
Present are similar to Univers Zero, minus the classical intruments. Their music is dark and repetetive (not necessarly a bad thing) and more direct than UZ perhaps. I don't think they're as effective like UZ on an emotional level, but their arrangements are a joy to listen to. Sparse sometimes, yet detailed. Basically, If you like UZ, Present are a must-check-out, particulary their two first albums (which are among my absolute favorites ever).
 
 
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Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Haha, too late, I picked UZ, 'Heresie'.  And it's starting to work for me... Thumbs%20Up
 
 
Heard their others yet? If not, their debut and Ceux du Dehors (my favorite) are both highly recommended.Big%20smile
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