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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2008 at 16:40
Originally posted by James James wrote:

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I imagine points are awarded in Judo for 'clean' throws that are legal and show proper technique (hand position, balance, power, etc)

..maybe they'll show some Taekwondo this year on the Olympics


All I know is there's one that gives you 100 points. Confused


OK, firstly it's 0-1-0-0 not 100

If I remember correctly from my judo days, there are four scoring levels. 1 of the top level or 2 of the second level result in an instant win. Otherwise, the person who has the most of the highest level wins (I.e. if one person has one of the third level, and the other has 300 of second, the person with the one wins. The score only somewhat depends on the type of throw. Essentially, I think that ippon (highest) and wazari (second highest) have to come from a hip throw, and the score awarded depends on the cleanness of the throw/how the other person lands.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2008 at 16:43
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I think Area is the best band no one's talking about.


I need to hear them! Which album do you recommend first?


I have a compilation of their first four studio albums and some live stuff like Are(A)zione.  I don't think you can go wrong trying to acquire any of that.

So the albums would be:

Arbeit Macht Frei
Caution Radiation Area
Crac!
Maledetti

edit:  I found the compilation called "Area Gold Edition" for about $50 and it's worth every penny if you want to dive right in.  The individual albums are a bit pricey.


I have Caution Radiation Area and 1978.  Caution is enjoyable, with a few "meh" parts but still if the surrounding two albums are better I need them (I certainly didn't start out with their best), it's also too short.  1978 is way different and pretty good, kind of more expected Italian prog than Caution Radiation.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2008 at 16:44
AMF and Crac! are just as good at Caution Radiation Area, FWIW.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2008 at 16:47
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

AMF and Crac! are just as good at Caution Radiation Area, FWIW.

FWIW?  I bought Caution spontaneously, unsure which was their best (well, I know Crac! was considered better but I didn't see it), and judging by reviews AMF and Crac! are indeed better, but I can't go by that alone.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2008 at 16:53
Originally posted by Mikerinos Mikerinos wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

AMF and Crac! are just as good at Caution Radiation Area, FWIW.

FWIW?  I bought Caution spontaneously, unsure which was their best (well, I know Crac! was considered better but I didn't see it), and judging by reviews AMF and Crac! are indeed better, but I can't go by that alone.


FWIW = For what it's worth.

I like the first three albums about equally is what I'm trying to say, though I just "dove in" and got a big Area compilation for $50.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2008 at 16:55
CRA was fine, but it was AreAzione that got me


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2008 at 16:56
I'll buy the other two at NEARfest next year maybe, they were cheap, $12 each I think?  Hopefully I'll have a job then, so I can buy even more than this year (~10 cds and a dvd) - you can pretty much get anything there, often for a low price, and no shipping charges (which makes ReR even cheaper).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2008 at 16:59
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CRA was fine, but it was AreAzione that got me




At some point I want to pick up that album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2008 at 17:01
Originally posted by Mikerinos Mikerinos wrote:

I'll buy the other two at NEARfest next year maybe, they were cheap, $12 each I think?  Hopefully I'll have a job then, so I can buy even more than this year (~10 cds and a dvd) - you can pretty much get anything there, often for a low price, and no shipping charges (which makes ReR even cheaper).


I should make the trip to buy CDs if nothing else.  Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2008 at 17:04
You can buy CD's at NEARfest? (I never went, but I want to go next year.)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2008 at 17:06
Originally posted by YesFan72 YesFan72 wrote:

You can buy CD's at NEARfest? (I never went, but I want to go next year.)

Yeah, they have lots of venders from major distributors and stuff.  Pretty much anything prog related you can think of, someone there is selling (James doesn't count Wink)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2008 at 17:07
Erm, why can't you get them before NEARFest? LOL

I couldn't wait that long... if I go to NEARFest next year (no idea if I am yet), I'll just buy on a whim, rather than planning my spending.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2008 at 17:11
Originally posted by TGM: Orb TGM: Orb wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

I imagine points are awarded in Judo for 'clean' throws that are legal and show proper technique (hand position, balance, power, etc)

..maybe they'll show some Taekwondo this year on the Olympics


All I know is there's one that gives you 100 points. Confused


OK, firstly it's 0-1-0-0 not 100

If I remember correctly from my judo days, there are four scoring levels. 1 of the top level or 2 of the second level result in an instant win. Otherwise, the person who has the most of the highest level wins (I.e. if one person has one of the third level, and the other has 300 of second, the person with the one wins. The score only somewhat depends on the type of throw. Essentially, I think that ippon (highest) and wazari (second highest) have to come from a hip throw, and the score awarded depends on the cleanness of the throw/how the other person lands.


Then the coverage is fail then, 'cause it looks like 100 to me. LOL

I hate all this poor language usage... it's either upper-case or lower-case.  It infuriates me that the BBC use this method too.  Why?

So I think they should put hyphens/dashes/em dashes between the numbers, so people like me realise it means 0-1-0-0 rather than 100. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2008 at 17:12
Originally posted by James James wrote:

Erm, why can't you get them before NEARFest? LOL

I couldn't wait that long... if I go to NEARFest next year (no idea if I am yet), I'll just buy on a whim, rather than planning my spending.

You underestimate the behemothosity (made up word) of the music I want to buy.  Plus, NEARfest is cheaper than anyplace else, except maybe eBay or Amazon used, and I'll be in college in a bit and I probably won't order much if at all then (record stores!).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2008 at 17:16
Arbeit Macht Frei, Crac!, Caution Radiation Area, Are(A)zione and Maledetti are $14 from Wayside but only for a short time!

Edited by James - August 13 2008 at 17:16
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2008 at 17:17
Originally posted by James James wrote:

Arbeit Macht Frei, Crac!, Caution Radio Area, Are(A)zione and Maledetti are $14 from Wayside but only for a short time!


Alex (MP07) - those are really good prices, you should think about picking one up.
I think I'm going to order Are(A)zione now.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2008 at 17:19
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Arbeit Macht Frei, Crac!, Caution Radiation Area, Are(A)zione and Maledetti are $14 from Wayside but only for a short time!


Alex (MP07) - those are really good prices, you should think about picking one up.
I think I'm going to order Are(A)zione now.


Oops! (Embarrassed)

I'm a bad man... Patrick, just don't tell the wife! Embarrassed


Edited by James - August 13 2008 at 17:20
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2008 at 17:21
Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Arbeit Macht Frei, Crac!, Caution Radiation Area, Are(A)zione and Maledetti are $14 from Wayside but only for a short time!


Alex (MP07) - those are really good prices, you should think about picking one up.
I think I'm going to order Are(A)zione now.


Oops! (Embarrassed)

I'm a bad man... Patrick, just don't tell the wife! Embarrassed


Now I only order CDs that are in danger of not being around or are on sale.  Wink
Can't wait to get Infernal Machina in!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2008 at 17:23
Just wondering, how many people usually show up to NEARfest?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 13 2008 at 17:23
The coverage is semi-fail. However, why watch it?
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