Reviews discussion

I think that guy is one of the exceptions rather than the rule. Personally I was discouraged enough when the collab reviews took over the album pages (before I was a PR)... I really wouldn't like to see member reviews get taken off the front page, but guys like this spoil it for everyone else really. There's some very good member reviews, and really - if they weren't on the front page who would we know to promote? Some very good points though. Lets see how long my latest review stays on the front page before it's pushed off. I think this guy needs a PM, but I dont think he should represent all the member's reviews...

My two cents

Him posting 100 reviews of no less than 100 words per day isn't much of a problem, but the moderating stuff could be done over his way of 'copy-pasting' some general ideas when he doesn't have to say anything at all about the album. He's running bit out of ideas and original impressions as he continues reviewing one album every 5 minutes. So copy-pasting is a no.

Regarding the rates, I've seen him pannning yesterday almost every Hawkwind album, it seemed like music he didn't understood it or feld the need to express complete distaste over it. In comparing the albums, some were "slightly better", but weren't worthy of more than one star, which is like the grade of "execrable music" for me. Interesting...and weird...

He could try to be more of a critic than of an optimist when reviewing, but it certainly succeeds less when actually writing the review. I remember ZowieZiggy doing much, much better negative, pessimist reviews, even if sometimes it was shocking.

But my point would actually be that it's fair to leave the low-rated reviews, as long as the review itself isn't a problem. Moderating over his reviews would do good, but normally it shouldn't do serious, full wipes.

About a collabs-only front page - let's not forget the senior members' reviews in an album's page are still visible in super-shrunk version, with that (read more) sign covering the rest of one's review after just seven or eight lines. I'd still feel uncomfortable about this, if I would have been just a normal member, writing reviews.


Edited by Ricochet - July 21 2008 at 13:07

Finnforest wrote: I'm with you Micky, but since my far less controversial suggestion of simply limiting each member to two reviews per hour, or 4 reviews per day (or somthing reasonable) was pretty much ignored, I doubt yours will happen   That would solve the problem as well, and encourage better writing.  If you need to post more more than 4 reviews per day, you're just not taking the time to do them well.

oh.. so mine has been Jim....  don't think this is the first time I've suggested it....  I just love hearing myself talk  No chance in hell it happens. 

I do think Jim's suggestion is the reasonable one...  and is the morphine to my amputation.... 

My thoughts. I don't like seeing the front page filled with lower quality reviews, but...

1. Collabs only front page is a pretty poor idea. Not only will it discourage members from bothering (since their reviews get no exposure), but it also means that good reviews of better known albums (the rarer kind of review) will almost never be considered, and that it's harder to find out about non-collab reviewers consistent and energetic enough to deserve a promotion. I honestly think that the people who bother writing decent reviews would be the ones who'd go away, since they aren't simply interested in passing a ten second judgement.

2. 2 reviews an hour is the perfect solution. 4/day seems a tad un-necessary to me, as the basic aim of these ideas is to make sure one reviewer doesn't completely dominate the front page, and to raise the quality of reviews a tad. I think 2/hour would do this. I can write more than 4/day on a weekend (never have, I think), and my reviews do take a while.

TGM: Orb wrote: 2. 2 reviews an hour is the perfect solution. 4/day seems a tad un-necessary to me, as the basic aim of these ideas is to make sure one reviewer doesn't completely dominate the front page, and to raise the quality of reviews a tad. I think 2/hour would do this. I can write more than 4/day on a weekend (never have, I think), and my reviews do take a while.

There are big reviewers like Sean Trane, Clem, King-by-Tor, UMUR, etc. that write a bulk of reviews at once. The day Hugues writes you get at least two-three reviews from him, same, usually, with Clem. Thinking of other good reviewers, it's not really a good idea to limit the reviews you can write in a day.

Let's not think of a general restriction in this case just because there's a reviewer that posts many, many reviews. I though the quality and certain aspects of how he makes a review was the problem.

I've just spent over an hour moving post here from the reviews reporting thread and there's still some to come. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, if you want to discuss reviews, do it here. If other people wrongly post replies in the reviews reporting thread, please just say "Continued in the reviews discussion thread" and carry on the discussion here. PLEASE!!!!!!!!

I'm never really concerned me that good reviews dissapear from the site after 10 more reviews come in, though, generally speaking, it would be actually best for PA's front-page to be seen from outside as one in which good reviews are written and posted. But if this is about someone's review dissapearing too soon, better forget about it, cause anyway, it's nothing tragic in it. Any review dissapears anyway at most after a good night sleep or half a day..

On the other hand, the problem of Joe Schmoe pushing out of the front page a quality and hard-worked review by person X can be seen in a different angle from this way:

Many people go to an album's page when interested about that album.

Person X's review has a better chance of being read and appreciated. Most of the times it could be a PR/SC, so his review would be seen in full, detailed, presented for a perfect read.
Joe Schmoe's lousy work would be automatically (cause you wouldn't promote Joe Schmoe as PR/SC, right?) in the right side, only briefly presented, and while the rest could be read separately, his review would overall not impress.

But not impressing doesn't mean not adequate.


Edited by Ricochet - July 21 2008 at 16:23

Check these: http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=1330

^ Slightly off-topic, the idea rather belongs to "Help us improve the site" thread, but isn't it worth to differ reviews and ratings without reviews in members' profiles?