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TGM: Orb
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 21 2007 Location: n/a Status: Offline Points: 8052 |
Posted: January 12 2008 at 14:03 |
Depends on exactly what you'd consider an epic, but:
1. Lady Fantasy - Camel I love this song. An unforgettable theme and an explosion at the end rivalled only by the opening of Schizoid Man. 2. Telegraph Road - Dire Straits I'm probably a little biased here, since this was really the song that got me into music, but I can't fault it. Scenic opening, strong and profound lyrics, Knopfler's excellent guitar additions. Sense of direction, considerable instrumental parts. Exactly what an epic should be. 3. Take A Pebble - ELP I think this showcases just how versatile acoustic instruments can be. Seamless shifts in mood; interesting lyrics sung superbly by Lake; beautiful piano work. I love it. 4. Shine On You Crazy Diamond - Pink Floyd I'm sure someone else has already explained this much better than I can. 5. Les Porches Du Notre Dame - Maneige I've recently discovered this. I'm particularly fond of the piano parts and the stunning jazzy ending. It gets better with every listen. Supper's Ready, TAAB and The Musical Box deserve a mention, but I'm sure I've added them to plenty of favourites lists already. Edited by TGM: Orb - January 12 2008 at 14:07 |
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AustinPrince14
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Posted: January 12 2008 at 18:45 |
Hmm..
Close to the Edge - Yes just wins. No question Tales from Topographic Oceans - See "Close to the Edge" Divine Wings of Tragedy - The ethereal choir in the beginning followed by excepts from "Mars" by Gustav Holst really sets a killer mood for this epic. I recommend it to anyone who likes prog, prog metal, or good music. 2112 - I love Rush, but I'll be the first to say some of their stuff is just unlistenable. 2112, however, is the exact opposite. Never have 20 minutes gone by so fast than when I listen to this track. Good story, based of Anthem I think. Great intro to prog if you're just starting out. In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida- Ok, so maybe not prog.. But still some of the best music ever. The fuzz guitar, coupled with the killer rhythm section, and the organ that makes you believe you are sitting in some ic cathedral, it all is just a masterpiece from start to finish. No, none of them were really virtuosos or anything, but In-a-Gadda-Da-Vida really is something to be amazed about. |
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itakoto
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Posted: June 14 2008 at 18:34 |
VdGG - A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers - the best epic ever!
ELP - Karn evil 9 Jethro Tull - Thick as a brick Pink Floyd - Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Parts I - IX). Rush - 2112 |
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grahawk
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Posted: June 15 2008 at 07:19 |
I find some epics quite tiresome. Some have a good shorter
song trying to get out. Thick as a Brick is a great 12 minute song, so still
quite epic like, but rather loses it as a whole album.
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The Quiet One
Prog Reviewer Joined: January 16 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 15745 |
Posted: June 15 2008 at 11:08 |
I'll have a different list to my(and many others) obvious list.
1. Telegraph Road - Dire Straits (the final solo is f**king incredible) 2. Nine Feet Underground - Caravan (THE canterbury epic) 3. Lizard - King Crimson (amazing jazzy epic) 4. I am the Sun pt 1 - Flower Kings (incredible song) 5. A Passion Play pt 1 or 2 - Jethro Tull (ah, so underrated, it's a MAJESTIC epic) Edited by cacho - June 15 2008 at 11:10 |
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cohen34
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Posted: June 15 2008 at 18:58 |
1. Dark Star - The Grateful Dead
Words cant describe the power and subtle beauty of this free-jazz workout by the Dead. Listen to the guitar solos at 10 and 18 min to learn why Garcia is the only artist who can truly make the guitar speak. Not progressive in the strictest sense, but this guy still blows all other epics out of the water! 2. Supper's Ready - Genesis A full course meal in every sense of the word Supper's Ready is Genesis's magnum opus and the greatest of the Symphonic Prog epics/mini-operas. The climax of this song sends me into Nirvana every time I listen to it. All you Yes fans have got it wrong, this is much better than Close to the Edge! 3. Echoes - Pink Floyd Cant get farther without mentioning this gem. The beautifully serene and atmospheric Echoes transports you from the depths of the ocean to the depths of space all within its 25 min span. Love the lyrics, and the climactic guitar workout by Gilmour is fantastic. 4. The Requiem Symphony - Mozart Lets pay tribute to the great great grandfather of all epics! Full of pomp, majesty and sheer grandiose power I hope that many prog-heads havnt forgotten where all the symphonic greats, past and present, have taken their influence from. 5. Halleluhwah - Can I started getting into Krautrock and now after listening to Tago Mago for the billionth time I gotta pay tribute to this incredible tune. An organic funk beat drives this song through its entire +20 min, sometimes threatening to send it plunging into insanity but always keeping you hooked to the end. Sure to set heads bopping. |
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Relayer09
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Posted: June 15 2008 at 21:18 |
Close To The Edge - Yes
Supper's Ready - Genesis
Tarkus - ELP
A Change Of Seasons - Dream Theater
Heaven And Hell - Vangelis
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Alberto Muñoz
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Posted: June 18 2008 at 18:05 |
Well that's a hard one!!
I think Thick as a Brick is the top 1 of prog epics.
Brain Salad Surgey also is a very good one.
King Kong of FZ is one of my favorites.
Genesis Supper Ready's
Tales of Topographic Oceans
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BrufordFreak
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Posted: June 23 2008 at 21:40 |
Top Five Epics
Awaken – YES at their absolute most polished and balanced Close to the Edge – YES at their most amazing and unpredictable. Fall of the House of Usher – ALAN PARSONS PROJECT. Orchestra moving into electronic instruments, classical mixing and giving way to rock, moods being toyed with by all! Captures all the drama and angst of the story! Dogs— FLOYD. Amazing acoustic guitars and effects, powerful singing and message Supper’s Ready. G … Enough said. I give in. UNDER APPRECIATED and WORTHY OF CONSIDERATION: Hergest Ridge – MIKE OLDFIELD. What a beautiful, seemless piece of music. Tab in the Ocean – NEKTAR. Roy can send shivers with the best of them, song after song, album after album. Starless – KC. What a song! Can You Hear Me? Or Trip to the Fair – RENAISSANCE. Annie et al. must be on this list. (Tout or Camp?) The Icon – UTOPIA. Love the interplay of the three keyboardists with Todd. Hamburger Concerto – FOCUS. Jan, Bert, and Thijs at their best. I love the playful humor of this band! The Romantic Warrior— RETURN TO FOREVER. Perhaps not “epic” enough but these guys can play! One of the most amazing lineup of musicians ever assembled at their very best melodically and very accessible. |
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BaldJean
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 03:03 |
I vehemently disagree. "Meurglys III" does not get tiresome after 15 minutes. on the contrary, I could listen endlessly to the crazy things Hammill comes up with on his guitar throughout the closing part. and it is a very cool reggae too. I simply love it! Edited by BaldJean - June 24 2008 at 03:17 |
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BaldJean
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 03:15 |
spot on, Raphael! I couldn't put it better myself |
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BaldJean
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 03:28 |
I am of the same opinion. much more daring and exciting. CttE is way overrated, in my opinion; I don't mean that it is a bad song, it even is a great one. but not as great as some people make it; I could name dozens of epics which are on the same level |
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BaldJean
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 03:35 |
when it comes to cohesiveness absolutely nothing beats Peter Hammill's opera "The Fall of the House of Usher". the way he weaves several themes from previous acts together in the final act is unsurpassed. since the tracks flow into each other, except for short pauses between the acts, one might as well see the opera as one big piece of music. "Close to the Edge" is beginner's stuff in comparison when it comes to cohesiveness. I also don't quite agree with you. you might as well take out the "I Get Up - I Get Down" part and make a separate song of it; musically there is nothing that logically leads to this part. it begins as abrupt as similar parts in, for example, "Supper's Ready". you may be historically correct in that it never originally WAS a separate song; for the result, however, this doesn't change anything Edited by BaldJean - June 24 2008 at 03:48 |
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BaldJean
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 04:08 |
it has to be noted that the "guitar" solo at the end of it is NOT a guitar solo at all. it is Hugh Banton doing a Fripp imitation on organ, as he himself said in a radio interview. sounds exactly like Fripp though, doesn't it? |
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burtonrulez
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Posted: July 15 2008 at 11:20 |
Pink Floyd - Echoes Van Der Graaf Generator - A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers
Yes -Close to the Edge
Rush - Xanadu
Caravan - NIne Feet UNdergound
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crimson87
Prog Reviewer Joined: January 03 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 1818 |
Posted: July 19 2008 at 14:40 |
It goes like this:
TARKUS
Rest of epics.(Just partially joking)
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ghost_of_morphy
Prog Reviewer Joined: March 08 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2755 |
Posted: July 20 2008 at 02:14 |
I like the way you think! But you forgot about Awaken.
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: July 20 2008 at 02:29 |
I can't remember if I posted in this thread before or not, but I'll give a list now.
2. Awaken -- Yes: An absolutely ethereal trip through musical regions barely touched by mortal men.
3. Amarok -- Mike Oldfield: One of the most intelligent and sophisticated pieces of music ever to enter progdom. Take my comments about TAAB below and raise them to the third power. You won't realize it until you are about halway through the piece, but this is amazingly well composed and performed. The differing transmutations of the themes will knock you out.
4. Thick as a Brick -- Jethro Tull: Sigh. I hate even putting this in the top 5, but I have to admit that what they did on this album was something unheard of at the time. At the something was making an album long epic that was truly more or less one cohesive piece of music and which was also intelligent and entertaining.
5. Mekanik Destructiv Kommandoh -- Magma: If you view the whole album as one epic, this deserves a mention. A complex, innovative and entertaining piece that I consider tied for fifth with the next album.
5 Journey to the Center of the Earth -- Rick Wakeman: Everything that is good and bad about prog appears in this album. I would claim that this is the album that defines prog. It's like Supper's Ready but with the less likeable prog elements more prominent.
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The Whistler
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Posted: July 20 2008 at 02:43 |
THE TOP FIVE:
5. "Pictures at an Exhibition" -ELP Probably their best "long song" ever, it's really more of an album...and it really honestly is pretty damn fun.
4. "Phantom of the Opera" -Iron Maiden I know, I know. Unforgiveable sin. But gimme a break! This song rocks, is intelligent, is complex, AND was put out in the eighties. What more do you want?
3. "When the Music's Over" -The Doors Not quite as "epic" as "The End," but it's more interesting, more varied, and raises just as many emotions. Perfectly put together. What can I say?
2. "The Tain" -The Decemberists This stands right on next to classic prog epics, and actually beats most of them into submission. Maybe the number two spot is a tad much, but, this thang needs it's props. It's practically "Thick as a Brick Part 3." Oh yeah, that reminds me...
1. "Thick as a Brick." Duh. What did you THINK I was gonna put, "Close to the Edge?" Aside from the fact that it's actually an album, this is probably the best song ever written. It's...just...freakin'...perfect. Or, you know, CLOSE to being perfect. Close enough.
THE UNDERRATED (no order):
"Ghosts" -The Strawbs
"Chateau Disaster" -Jethro Tull
"The Soft Parade" -The Doors
"Maggie M'gill" -The Doors
"Rocks on the Road" -Jethro Tull
"Inna Gadda da Vida" -Iron Butterfly
"Right to the Way and Rules of the World" -Ween
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Mousoleum
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Posted: July 23 2008 at 00:32 |
In no real order:
Yes Awaken: More of a mini-Epic; this song haunts my dreams. In good and bad ways. Porcupine Tree Russia on Ice: Again, mini-Epic (This one clocking in at 13:03.) Brilliant. An almost two-part dungeon. Cold and painful. A sweet tedium; If Valium was a song. Chris Squier Safe (Canon Song): In my current will and testament, this song gets played at my funeral. Peter Hammil A Louse is not a Home: If a were a single, 27 year old artist, living by himself, I would listen to this song every night before I passed out. And I do. Traffic The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys: Simple Song, but puts me in another dimension. A seemingly jazzy one. Great vocals and piano work from Mr. Winwood. I also love every other classic Epic from Ange to Zappa. |
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