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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2008 at 17:37
Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Tantalising rumour re. Magma 40th anniversary concerts, Feb 09 (as seen on the Magma/Vander Yahoo group):

"There is a rumor that Jannick Top's Infernal Machina* will be the opening act on at least a few of the days. Jannick is almost sure to be guesting with Magma ... probably on MDK and De Futura."

(*I feel I ought to say something perspiration-related, but do not wish to be needlessly indelicate... Tongue)


Oi, cheeky! WinkLOL

I also read this over at ProgressiveEars (which I never visit usually but was trying to find a review for Infernal Machina and found other information instead).

It's a shame I don't have a passport at the moment... Cry

Cleo: I'll sort out some Kandahar for you.  I am sure I found a blog with both of their albums on...



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2008 at 17:43
Originally posted by listennow801 listennow801 wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

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I know you weren't crazy on Zao but I have to stress their live album again.  It absolutely blows the studio releases out of the water for its sheer energy and musicianship.

Zoa varies a lot over time - I really don't like their later work at all, but 7L, Osiris, and Shekina are truly goth[ic].* Don't know the Live myself, guess I shall have to try...
 
*[vernacular for "amazing/sublime music, nothing to do w/ the scene]

I have Osiris and Shekina - they're good, but for me there's something lacking in the releases compared to that live album, which as you can see from my avatar is a current favorite.  Certainly I would highly recommend it if you like those studio albums.  It was recorded after Yochk'o Seffer left but Didier Lockwood is absolutely stunning on it.

You'll love Ruins too, it's insane.
 
Indeed! My tongue was hanging out when I first imbibed their amazingly tight, tail-spinning, heavy-arsed wonder...; )

Yes, I became a fast fan of Yoshi...very eager to check out the Soft Mountain project.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2008 at 18:20
And so you should be keen, Patrick!

It's a fantastic lineup and a terrific album.

You also need Absolute Zero.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2008 at 18:35
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You also need Absolute Zero.


First I need Univers Zero.  Embarrassed
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2008 at 18:37
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:



You also need Absolute Zero.


First I need Univers Zero.  Embarrassed


More than one Univers Zero though. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2008 at 18:41

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:



I have Osiris and Shekina - they're good, but for me there's something lacking in the releases compared to that live album, which as you can see from my avatar is a current favorite.  Certainly I would highly recommend it if you like those studio albums.  It was recorded after Yochk'o Seffer left but Didier Lockwood is absolutely stunning on it.

will put it on my [absurdly voluminous!] 'wishlist' then - thanks for the heads up. [btw, 7L is the best, it was recommended to me many times when i first became enamoured w/ zeuhl, so if you don't know it, 'tis well worth a listen...]

Yes, I became a fast fan of Yoshi...very eager to check out the Soft Mountain project.

It's very good as i recall - has been a while though..

btw NS, where are you in PA? I'm in Pittsburgh presently [though i shall be in NY in a few months]

 


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Ratings of Lady Gnosis: http://www.gnosis2000.net/raterclaire.shtml
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2008 at 18:47
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You also need Absolute Zero.
 
oh yea! and Sotos, and Zaar, and...[my 1st days w/ all the wondrous recommendations here were severe wallet denters, but I've never regretted a moment...;)


Edited by listennow801 - July 18 2008 at 18:48

Ratings of Lady Gnosis: http://www.gnosis2000.net/raterclaire.shtml
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2008 at 18:51
NS = Pat, is in Bryn Mawr (well, for work)... so Philly.

Oops, I guess I should have let him answer that himself!

Cleo, did those links work?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2008 at 18:52
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Cleo: I'll sort out some Kandahar for you.  I am sure I found a blog with both of their albums on...
 
ohh!!! Thanks geck0, d/ling now...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2008 at 18:53
Originally posted by listennow801 listennow801 wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:



I have Osiris and Shekina - they're good, but for me there's something lacking in the releases compared to that live album, which as you can see from my avatar is a current favorite.  Certainly I would highly recommend it if you like those studio albums.  It was recorded after Yochk'o Seffer left but Didier Lockwood is absolutely stunning on it.

will put it on my [absurdly voluminous!] 'wishlist' then - thanks for the heads up. [btw, 7L is the best, it was recommended to me many times when i first became enamoured w/ zeuhl, so if you don't know it, 'tis well worth a listen...]

Yes, I became a fast fan of Yoshi...very eager to check out the Soft Mountain project.

It's very good as i recall - has been a while though..

btw NS, where are you in PA? I'm in Pittsburgh presently [though i shall be in NY in a few months]

 


Thanks for the advice re: Z=7L, I've heard good things about it from a few people so I'll try and pick it up one of these days.  I'm loving this thread, but I can see that you're going to be another individual that's bad for my finances (but stellar for musical discovery).  Wink

As James mentioned I am indeed in the Philly suburbs (both house and work).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2008 at 18:54
Originally posted by listennow801 listennow801 wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:


Cleo: I'll sort out some Kandahar for you.  I am sure I found a blog with both of their albums on...
 
ohh!!! Thanks geck0, d/ling now...


Good-o, I wasn't sure if they still were valid. Big%20smile


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2008 at 18:55
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by listennow801 listennow801 wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:



I have Osiris and Shekina - they're good, but for me there's something lacking in the releases compared to that live album, which as you can see from my avatar is a current favorite.  Certainly I would highly recommend it if you like those studio albums.  It was recorded after Yochk'o Seffer left but Didier Lockwood is absolutely stunning on it.

will put it on my [absurdly voluminous!] 'wishlist' then - thanks for the heads up. [btw, 7L is the best, it was recommended to me many times when i first became enamoured w/ zeuhl, so if you don't know it, 'tis well worth a listen...]

Yes, I became a fast fan of Yoshi...very eager to check out the Soft Mountain project.

It's very good as i recall - has been a while though..

btw NS, where are you in PA? I'm in Pittsburgh presently [though i shall be in NY in a few months]

 


Thanks for the advice re: Z=7L, I've heard good things about it from a few people so I'll try and pick it up one of these days.  I'm loving this thread, but I can see that you're going to be another individual that's bad for my finances (but stellar for musical discovery).  Wink

As James mentioned I am indeed in the Philly suburbs (both house and work).


If Assaf posted more often, you'd have holes in your pockets. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2008 at 21:34
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Good-o, I wasn't sure if they still were valid. Big%20smile
 
Thanks again, very nice! Have to admit I was a bit surprised by the wah-wah - a tad o' 70s funk/soul touch in there - got me thinking of curtis mayfield [Superfly]...
 
Speaking of Canterbury [yes I know this is the wrong thread] do you know Gowen, Miller, Sinclair, Tomkins' Before a Word is Said ? - just got a used copy after many months of searching [it's op] and it's great! [and says 'James' all over it... ; )]

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 18 2008 at 22:02
Originally posted by listennow801 listennow801 wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:


Good-o, I wasn't sure if they still were valid. Big%20smile
 
Thanks again, very nice! Have to admit I was a bit surprised by the wah-wah - a tad o' 70s funk/soul touch in there - got me thinking of curtis mayfield [Superfly]...
 
Speaking of Canterbury [yes I know this is the wrong thread] do you know Gowen, Miller, Sinclair, Tomkins' Before a Word is Said ? - just got a used copy after many months of searching [it's op] and it's great! [and says 'James' all over it... ; )]


Yes, I really like those funk/soul parts myself and luckily they're not used throughout.  I presume you enjoy them too?  There's definitely Canterbury in there and some of the beats are very foot-tapping indeed. Big%20smile

Oh and yes, I have Gowen, Miller, Sinclair, Tomkins and I've played it a few times.  I must play it more though. Big%20smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2008 at 05:13
Originally posted by listennow801 listennow801 wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:


Good-o, I wasn't sure if they still were valid. Big%20smile
 
Thanks again, very nice! Have to admit I was a bit surprised by the wah-wah - a tad o' 70s funk/soul touch in there - got me thinking of curtis mayfield [Superfly]...
 
Speaking of Canterbury [yes I know this is the wrong thread] do you know Gowen, Miller, Sinclair, Tomkins' Before a Word is Said ? - just got a used copy after many months of searching [it's op] and it's great! [and says 'James' all over it... ; )]
 
Before a Word is Said is a beautiful album, recorded at Gowen's home shortly before he died if I remember rightly.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2008 at 23:22
Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Tantalising rumour re. Magma 40th anniversary concerts, Feb 09 (as seen on the Magma/Vander Yahoo group):

"There is a rumor that Jannick Top's Infernal Machina* will be the opening act on at least a few of the days. Jannick is almost sure to be guesting with Magma ... probably on MDK and De Futura."

(*I feel I ought to say something perspiration-related, but do not wish to be needlessly indelicate... Tongue)


Where are these anniversary concerts supposed to be played? 

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Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:


Tantalising rumour re. Magma 40th anniversary concerts, Feb 09 (as seen on the Magma/Vander Yahoo group):
(snip...)

Where are these anniversary concerts supposed to be played? 

Paris, 12-14 février 09, ici. Smile
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Anybody got the new Ollive Mess album Cherdak?
 
Snippets here:
 
 
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Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:

Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

Originally posted by song_of_copper song_of_copper wrote:


Tantalising rumour re. Magma 40th anniversary concerts, Feb 09 (as seen on the Magma/Vander Yahoo group):
(snip...)

Where are these anniversary concerts supposed to be played? 

Paris, 12-14 février 09, ici. Smile


At "Le Triton", I believe?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2008 at 18:54
After many delays I finally added KTU today.
Check them out at http://www.myspace.com/ktuband
 
I'll be adding other bands as time permits.
 
 
Aside from that I'd like to recommend a Russian project called IRMOLOGION  whose second album Dynatos was released on RAIG in 2005. Labeled Experimental Ambient / Dark Ambient / Electro-Acoustic , it's a fantastic and varied over one hour continuous journey of sounds and atmospheres.
 
Here's the notes from the band's page in RAIG's website:

IRMOLOGION is the ominous foray into the dark territory of experimental electronic by a disciple of the Russian orthodox non-conformist doctrine, a composer who accumulated a respectable number of honors and distinctions in popular music in the eighties, then left off culture-establishment at the peak of his professional career and cloistered himself in a provincial monastery. It wasn’t until winter 2000 when we exchanged letters to discuss if he still had an interest in composing and recording music. The reaction was positive. However, my respondent specified that he "would consider creative activity as a relief from a burden of false tenets one had to embrace vindicating his carnal being, the abyss one had to fall so as to let the Godhead climb up in him”. This amazing person had definite Faith and Devotion that, in some way, helped us to solve a major problem – we got over a certain lack of necessary technical equipment when Andrei Suchilin proffered his assistance at Objective Music studio. The result of more than two-year laborious work was defined as IRMOLOGION.

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    Irmologion / Dynatos (2005) / CD $16.00
    (1 track - 77 min.)

    "Dynatos" is the original Greek word which means loud, mighty, possible, potent, potential, powerful, robust, strong, vigorous… Though this term was often used in Byzantium legal manuscripts dated to IX-X centuries to define big land-lords or significant persons in imperial ecclesiastical hierarchy, there is a hypothesis that a major criteria of belonging to dynatos was not property itself but enormous temporal and spiritual power which one had got from hands of the Lord. This work should be percept as a sermon on what a person is able to do but chooses not to do, on what is possible for humans to do but they don’t want to do, and on what is impossible for them to do even if they want to choose it. The anonymous masters choose to preach in the language of electro-acoustic music instead of the language of words which mean nothing in the tempted world. /The album comes in a special packaging designed by ZonderZond: cd wrapped up in a gorgeous silk piece of cloth, held together inside a laced hard book folder (Ltd x350)./

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    "It moves seamlessly from almost neo classical to electronic sound sculptures to Middle Eastern structured influences and religious incantations through Musique Concrete onto black ambience and beyond... Talk about taking ones breath away. The sheer depth and scope that Dynatos delivers beggars belief. Caught in a flux the music expands in every direction but is reigned in before escaping. Atmospheric and thought provoking it’s a piece of music that dares to be different... The music conjuring up emotions of strength and resilience. Of the human spirit at odds with the power of will. Just as human endeavour succeeds or fails this music uplifts and deflates bringing a joyous and depressive refrain all within the same time... Dynatos is a celebration to creativity. Pushing aside negative preconceptions the goal. There are no boundaries to this music. It will travel where it wants. Only the self made barriers of the listener can halt its progress. Open your mind and let the music flow. A top quality release that cements the growing reputation of this act and one that shouldn’t be ignored." – by ANM of Aural Pressure (UK) (December 2005).

    The album was also reviewed at: Rezultaty (Russia).

    Irmologion / Irmologion (2003) / CD $16.00
    (9 tracks - 73 min.)

     

    "Irmologion". That word came into the orthodox religious tradition from Hellenic: irmos – a motet, and logeyo – to collect. As a single-genre chapel-book, Irmologion was first compiled from a number of irmoses in the 10th century in Byzantium. A full version of the Russian Irmologion includes about 1050 irmoses and reproduces a specific classical structure, which is submitted to so-called "8-glas system" when the irmoses within each "glas" follow the exact order of 9 songs of the Canon. The purpose of this brief inquiry is to explain the album organization: 9 tracks (Irmos 1-9) in sequence which is of great importance for the perception of music. In fact, IRMOLOGION is far from interpretation of canonic motets; this more resembles a horror-documentary soundtrack redefining one's dark vision of the world intoxicated by deceits, illusions, and errors. Consistently dark and deeply disturbing chants grow up from some distorted references to holy hymns and raise up everything to the level of apocalypse. Here, the Ceremony is no more a source from which the author draws his inspiration but an act provoking him to create a stunning alternative and send this painful challenge to the tempting and rupturing dogma. /Deluxe cardboard packaging designed by ZonderZond further advances IRMOLOGION sound and vision (Ltd x350)./

    PRESS CLIPS

    "Quite a unique sound, and very hard to pigeon-hole. Some nice dark vocal effects add to an overall dark and undefined atmosphere created by this interesting music. There’s a certain freedom about this music that is had to quantify. There is a good variation of textures here, random rhythm and abrasive samples and vocal effects." – Aural Pressure (UK) (September 2004).

    "Experimental electronic music, with deep drones, interesting textures, metallic percussion, sombre chants and a compelling, apocalyptic atmosphere. Very nice dark ambient with ritual, religious undertones." – Funprox (The Netherlands) (October 2004).

    The album was also reviewed at: Stigmata Magazine (Belarus), Rezultaty (Russia).

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