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MovingPictures07 
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listennow801
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Posted: July 17 2008 at 11:13 |
btw folks, this is frigging brilliant [I would say you wld definitely appreciate it Chris...] imho:
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song_of_copper
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Posted: July 17 2008 at 14:44 |
Ok, good evening, I'm still alive, and I need to spend some money, right now.  So far I've picked out the following: Weidorje (yes, yes, way overdue getting this one...) Marcoeur first 2 albums Hmmm, maybe UZ 'Heresie'... I want more Koenjihyakkei but which one (I've only got 'Angherr Shisspa')? (Don't say 'all', please...  ) [I also want more Area, but this is the wrong thread to ask about that...] Some other readily-available form of Zeuhl would also be fun. (i.e. something in the Wayside catalogue, not something that only ran to 50 original LP copies, the master tape is kept in a vault under a Swiss mountain, guarded by a rabid half-demon bass guitarist, was re-released ten years ago before I even cared and is now out of print...   )
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listennow801
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Posted: July 17 2008 at 15:17 |
 song_of_copper wrote:
Ok, good evening, I'm still alive, and I need to spend some money, right now.
So far I've picked out the following:
Weidorje (yes, yes, way overdue getting this one...)
Marcoeur first 2 albums
ah! Macoeur is mind blowing pour moi, esp. the first. Have you heard any Etron Fou Leloublan?
Hmmm, maybe UZ 'Heresie'...
Nice! I want more Koenjihyakkei but which one (I've only got 'Angherr Shisspa')? (Don't say 'all', please... )
re: Koenjihyakkei - definitely the 2nd called "II (aka Viva Koenji)" : Not quite as good as Angherr imo, but very close... the Skin Graft site [http://www.skingraftrecords.com/]
[I also want more Area, but this is the wrong thread to ask about that...]
I adore Area - the best is Arbeit Macht Frei imo, 2nd: Caution Radiation Area, #3: Crac!
Some other readily-available form of Zeuhl would also be fun. (i.e. something in the Wayside catalogue, not something that only ran to 50 original LP copies, the master tape is kept in a vault under a Swiss mountain, guarded by a rabid half-demon bass guitarist, was re-released ten years ago before I even cared and is now out of print... )
one of my beloveds zeuhl titles is Dun - Eros. Eskaton's 4 Visions is sublime, but o.p. - ask here, I'm sure someone would be happy to send you an mp3 [mine's packed]
some other greats:
Zao - 7L
Pataphonie - Les Matins Blanc
Hellebore - Il y'a Des Jours
Vortex - Les Cyclone du Thanatos
Shub Niggurath - Les Morts Vont Vie
Toscco by Happy Family
ARCHAIA - same
Arachnoid - same
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Padraic
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Posted: July 17 2008 at 15:35 |
song_of_copper wrote:
Some other readily-available form of Zeuhl would also be fun.
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Something James recommended to me (and I have yet to obtain ) was Francois Thollot, two albums by him I believe, Ceux d'en Face and Contact, with reviews of the latter more glowing. Don't know about Wayside but I know Greg Walker has both records.
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Posted: July 17 2008 at 15:39 |
re: Koenjihyakkei, I have their debut Hundred Sights of Koenji on the way; it was recently remastered and reissued, I believe. Our mutual friend MP07 likes Nivraym the best, so I'm afraid to tell you that the answer is indeed "all of them".
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song_of_copper
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Posted: July 17 2008 at 16:02 |
NaturalScience wrote:
Something James recommended to me (and I have yet to obtain ) was Francois Thollot, two albums by him I believe, Ceux d'en Face and Contact, with reviews of the latter more glowing. Don't know about Wayside but I know Greg Walker has both records. |
I've heard that name and I think I heard some samples that I liked. Ooh, 'Contact' is on special at Wayside... could be a contender! Although maybe I should go for 'Toscco' as recommended by Cleo... 
NaturalScience wrote:
re: Koenjihyakkei, I have their debut Hundred Sights of Koenji on the way; it was recently remastered and reissued, I believe. Our mutual friend MP07 likes Nivraym the best, so I'm afraid to tell you that the answer is indeed "all of them". |
I thought so...  Maybe I'll save all this for the forthcoming Yoshida-related shopping spree that I know is in the offing at some point...
Edited by song_of_copper - July 17 2008 at 16:05
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: July 17 2008 at 16:07 |
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Padraic
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Posted: July 17 2008 at 16:08 |
All I know is that Angherr Shisspa is getting better with every listen.
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: July 17 2008 at 16:09 |
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listennow801
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Posted: July 17 2008 at 16:15 |
MovingPictures07 wrote:
[Yes, get Nivraym!!!
But really, any of them is a good choice. 
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Interesting, it was my least favorite [although I haven't listened in a while...] i will have to give it another listen after i move [thousands packed away...
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song_of_copper
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Posted: July 17 2008 at 16:21 |
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Posted: July 17 2008 at 16:29 |
For me Nivraym is only just behind Angherr Shisspa, but all the albums are essential. It's amazing how Yoshida can be so prolific and maintain such incredibly high standards.
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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
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listennow801
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Posted: July 17 2008 at 16:36 |
song_of_copper wrote:
I might wait a bit re. Koenji - see below! Damn, too many things to get!
lol - really! They were the 1st thing I heard after I freaked over Magma..
Got all 3 and am adoring them muchly myself! Area now holds the (coveted?) no. 2 spot in my recent most listened artists. 
Ah, well they are the 3 best. Have you checked out Gnosis? It's a great way to make decisions. Search the DB and put in a few of your fave titles, and see what raters give them high marks to check out taste that may be sympathetic with yours. Then type in the title[s!] you're curious about, and see what someone whose taste jives w/ you thinks...
Dün =  . Hmm, I would love to hear 4 Visions of course, but where's the fun in glibly passing mp3s around?! I'll have to go on one of my little quests for a 2nd hand copy. 
Well, good luck! It's very hard to find [took me almost 2 years!] Their other titles are very good too - they're in print.
Have you heard Eider Stellaire? Classics of the genre. They were only released as lps long ago, so pretty impossible to get for less than $100.+, but you should really hear them - they are easily available on blogs all over.
I've heard that name and I think I heard some samples that I liked. Ooh, 'Contact' is on special at Wayside... could be a contender! Although maybe I should go for 'Toscco' as recommended by Cleo...
Tosco is very intense - sounds to me like it might be right up your alley, as it were....; )
Think it was I who turned many list folks onto Francois..They are both really good, but Contact by far the better of the two.
I thought so... Maybe I'll save all this for the forthcoming Yoshida-related shopping spree that I know is in the offing at some point...
What fun that will be! O my dear, if you haven't any yet, you NEED some Ruins! Their latter work much more zeuhl influenced, the earlier rather noise and hardcore-ish. I like Vrresto and Tzomborgha the best.
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Padraic
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Posted: July 17 2008 at 16:42 |
listennow801 wrote:
Have you heard Eider Stellaire? Classics of the genre. They were only released as lps long ago, so pretty impossible to get for less than $100.+, but you should really hear them - they are easily available on blogs all over.
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Their debut is absolutely outstanding, a must. I know you weren't crazy on Zao but I have to stress their live album again. It absolutely blows the studio releases out of the water for its sheer energy and musicianship. You'll love Ruins too, it's insane.
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Padraic
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Posted: July 17 2008 at 16:43 |
This Present 2-for-1 has to be the best thing I've ever bought for $5.
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Leningrad
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Posted: July 17 2008 at 16:46 |
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This Present 2-for-1 has to be the best thing I've ever bought for $5. |
You obviously haven't bought NEU! '75 from Amazon sellers. 
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Padraic
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Posted: July 17 2008 at 16:47 |
I got it from emusic. <james> Just haven't listened to it yet.  </james>
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Leningrad
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Posted: July 17 2008 at 16:54 |
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Just haven't listened to it yet.
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From now on, every day you listen to it, I'll give you a dime. For every day you don't, I'm going to burn your house down.
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song_of_copper
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Posted: July 17 2008 at 17:03 |
listennow801 wrote:
song_of_copper wrote:
I might wait a bit re. Koenji - see below! Damn, too many things to get!
lol - really! They were the 1st thing I heard after I freaked over Magma.. Haha, music that freakifies =  Other way round for me. I heard that Koenji piece, fell off my chair laughing (in a good way! ), realised there was a Magma connection (had heard of them years before but never listened), and 24 hours later my brain was saturated with MDK love.
Got all 3 and am adoring them muchly myself! Area now holds the (coveted?) no. 2 spot in my recent most listened artists.
Ah, well they are the 3 best. Have you checked out Gnosis? It's a great way to make decisions. Search the DB and put in a few of your fave titles, and see what raters give them high marks to check out taste that may be sympathetic with yours. Then type in the title[s!] you're curious about, and see what someone whose taste jives w/ you thinks... Sounds helpful, I'll give it a go!
Dün = . Hmm, I would love to hear 4 Visions of course, but where's the fun in glibly passing mp3s around?! I'll have to go on one of my little quests for a 2nd hand copy.
Well, good luck! It's very hard to find [took me almost 2 years!] Their other titles are very good too - they're in print.
Have you heard Eider Stellaire? Classics of the genre. They were only released as lps long ago, so pretty impossible to get for less than $100.+, but you should really hear them - they are easily available on blogs all over.
It's all on the List...
Tosco is very intense - sounds to me like it might be right up your alley, as it were....; )
Haha, you are very perceptive. Anything really sulky sounding with 'too many notes' is fine by me!
Think it was I who turned many list folks onto Francois..They are both really good, but Contact by far the better of the two. Just ordered it.
I thought so... Maybe I'll save all this for the forthcoming Yoshida-related shopping spree that I know is in the offing at some point...
What fun that will be! O my dear, if you haven't any yet, you NEED some Ruins! Their latter work much more zeuhl influenced, the earlier rather noise and hardcore-ish. I like Vrresto and Tzomborgha the best. When the moment comes, I'll make a specific thread and you can bombard me with recommendations! Gotta say, noise/hardcore doesn't sound very me, so I'll bear this in mind!
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