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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2008 at 14:03
Depends on exactly what you'd consider an epic, but:

1. Lady Fantasy - Camel
I love this song. An unforgettable theme and an explosion at the end rivalled only by the opening of Schizoid Man.
2. Telegraph Road - Dire Straits
I'm probably a little biased here, since this was really the song that got me into music, but I can't fault it. Scenic opening, strong and profound lyrics, Knopfler's excellent guitar additions. Sense of direction, considerable instrumental parts. Exactly what an epic should be.
3. Take A Pebble - ELP
I think this showcases just how versatile acoustic instruments can be. Seamless shifts in mood; interesting lyrics sung superbly by Lake; beautiful piano work. I love it.
4. Shine On You Crazy Diamond - Pink Floyd
I'm sure someone else has already explained this much better than I can.
5. Les Porches Du Notre Dame - Maneige
I've recently discovered this. I'm particularly fond of the piano parts and the stunning jazzy ending. It gets better with every listen.

Supper's Ready, TAAB and The Musical Box deserve a mention, but I'm sure I've added them to plenty of favourites lists already.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2008 at 18:45
Hmm..

Close to the Edge - Yes just wins. No question
Tales from Topographic Oceans - See "Close to the Edge"
Divine Wings of Tragedy - The ethereal choir in the beginning followed by excepts from "Mars" by Gustav Holst really sets a killer mood for this epic. I recommend it to anyone who likes prog, prog metal, or good music.
2112 - I love Rush, but I'll be the first to say some of their stuff is just unlistenable. 2112, however, is the exact opposite. Never have 20 minutes gone by so fast than when I listen to this track. Good story, based of Anthem I think. Great intro to prog if you're just starting out.
In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida- Ok, so maybe not prog.. But still some of the best music ever. The fuzz guitar, coupled with the killer rhythm section, and the organ that makes you believe you are sitting in some ic cathedral, it all is just a masterpiece from start to finish. No, none of them were really virtuosos or anything, but In-a-Gadda-Da-Vida really is something to be amazed about.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2008 at 18:34
VdGG - A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers - the best epic ever!
ELP - Karn evil 9
Jethro Tull - Thick as a brick
Pink Floyd - Shine On You Crazy Diamond (Parts I - IX).
Rush - 2112
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2008 at 07:19
I find some epics quite tiresome. Some have a good shorter song trying to get out. Thick as a Brick is a great 12 minute song, so still quite epic like, but rather loses it as a whole album.

 
1. Ricochet - Tangerine Dream  70's electronica at it's very best.
2. Van Der Graff Generator - Meurglys III, The Songwriter's Guild. Admittedly after 15 minutes this gets very tiresome but the first 15 minutes are great. I've edited my version.
3. Neu - Forever. Is thirteen minutes long enough? A one or two chord track proving that repetition can be a very good thing and not remotely tiresome.
4. Echoes - Pink Floyd. A great song hiding in some great instrumental passages. So….it’s great.
5. Medicine Man (live) (Live EP, Gone to Earth re-release version  – Barclay James Harvest. Rather short again at 12 minutes, but stuffed full of  great rhythm guitar, lead guitar and keyboards.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2008 at 11:08
I'll have a different list to my(and many others) obvious list.

1. Telegraph Road - Dire Straits (the final solo is f**king incredible)
2. Nine Feet Underground - Caravan (THE canterbury epic)
3. Lizard - King Crimson (amazing jazzy epic)
4. I am the Sun pt 1 - Flower Kings (incredible song)
5. A Passion Play pt 1 or 2 - Jethro Tull (ah, so underrated, it's a MAJESTIC epic)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2008 at 18:58
1. Dark Star - The Grateful Dead
Words cant describe the power and subtle beauty of this free-jazz workout by the Dead. Listen to the guitar solos at 10 and 18 min to learn why Garcia is the only artist who can truly make the guitar speak. Not progressive in the strictest sense, but this guy still blows all other epics out of the water!

2. Supper's Ready - Genesis
A full course meal in every sense of the word Supper's Ready is Genesis's magnum opus and the greatest of the Symphonic Prog epics/mini-operas. The climax of this song sends me into Nirvana every time I listen to it. All you Yes fans have got it wrong, this is much better than Close to the Edge!

3. Echoes - Pink Floyd
Cant get farther without mentioning this gem. The beautifully serene and atmospheric Echoes transports you from the depths of the ocean to the depths of space all within its 25 min span. Love the lyrics, and the climactic guitar workout by Gilmour is fantastic.

4. The Requiem Symphony - Mozart
Lets pay tribute to the great great grandfather of all epics! Full of pomp, majesty and sheer grandiose power I hope that many prog-heads havnt forgotten where all the symphonic greats, past and present, have taken their influence from.

5. Halleluhwah - Can
I started getting into Krautrock and now after listening to Tago Mago for the billionth time I gotta pay tribute to this incredible tune. An organic funk beat drives this song through its entire +20 min, sometimes threatening to send it plunging into insanity but always keeping you hooked to the end. Sure to set heads bopping.
  

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2008 at 21:18
Close To The Edge - Yes
Supper's Ready - Genesis
Tarkus - ELP
A Change Of Seasons - Dream Theater
Heaven And Hell - Vangelis
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2008 at 18:05
Well that's a hard one!!
 
I think Thick as a Brick is the top 1 of prog epics.
Brain Salad Surgey also is a very good one.
King Kong of FZ is one of my favorites.
Genesis Supper Ready's
Tales of Topographic Oceans
 




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 23 2008 at 21:40
Top Five Epics

Awaken – YES at their absolute most polished and balanced
Close to the Edge – YES at their most amazing and unpredictable.
Fall of the House of Usher – ALAN PARSONS PROJECT. Orchestra moving into electronic instruments, classical mixing and giving way to rock, moods being toyed with by all! Captures all the drama and angst of the story!
Dogs— FLOYD. Amazing acoustic guitars and effects, powerful singing and message

Supper’s Ready. G … Enough said. I give in.

UNDER APPRECIATED and WORTHY OF CONSIDERATION:
Hergest Ridge – MIKE OLDFIELD. What a beautiful, seemless piece of music.
Tab in the Ocean – NEKTAR. Roy can send shivers with the best of them, song after song, album after album.
Starless – KC. What a song!
Can You Hear Me? Or Trip to the Fair – RENAISSANCE. Annie et al. must be on this list. (Tout or Camp?)
The Icon – UTOPIA. Love the interplay of the three keyboardists with Todd.
Hamburger Concerto – FOCUS. Jan, Bert, and Thijs at their best. I love the playful humor of this band!
The Romantic Warrior— RETURN TO FOREVER. Perhaps not “epic” enough but these guys can play! One of the most amazing lineup of musicians ever assembled at their very best melodically and very accessible.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2008 at 03:03
Originally posted by grahawk grahawk wrote:

I find some epics quite tiresome. Some have a good shorter song trying to get out. Thick as a Brick is a great 12 minute song, so still quite epic like, but rather loses it as a whole album.

 
1. Ricochet - Tangerine Dream  70's electronica at it's very best.
2. Van Der Graff Generator - Meurglys III, The Songwriter's Guild. Admittedly after 15 minutes this gets very tiresome but the first 15 minutes are great. I've edited my version.
3. Neu - Forever. Is thirteen minutes long enough? A one or two chord track proving that repetition can be a very good thing and not remotely tiresome.
4. Echoes - Pink Floyd. A great song hiding in some great instrumental passages. So….it’s great.
5. Medicine Man (live) (Live EP, Gone to Earth re-release version  – Barclay James Harvest. Rather short again at 12 minutes, but stuffed full of  great rhythm guitar, lead guitar and keyboards.


I vehemently disagree. "Meurglys III" does not get tiresome after 15 minutes. on the contrary, I could listen endlessly to the crazy things Hammill comes up with on his guitar throughout the closing part. and it is a very cool reggae too. I simply love it!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2008 at 03:15
Originally posted by RaphaelT RaphaelT wrote:

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1. Plague of you know who - VdGG Whom? Voldemort Wink?
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[/QUOTE 3. Meurglys III by Van Der Graaf Generator- to start with a fugue and end with a reggae with some of the greatest jazz - rock inside and tasty lyrics - these guys are crazier than Einstein with Feynman combined

spot on, Raphael! I couldn't put it better myself


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2008 at 03:28
Originally posted by Endless Wire Endless Wire wrote:

Oddly enough I've always felt Gates of Delirium was far superior to CTTE...Am I the only one?

I am of the same opinion. much more daring and exciting. CttE is way overrated, in my opinion; I don't mean that it is a bad song, it even is a great one. but not as great as some people make it; I could name dozens of epics which are on the same level


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 24 2008 at 03:35
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

for me...  probably in stages..

1. Close to the Edge  - the perfect '18 minute long song'... not a hodgepodge of song fragments tied together, however well,  like Tarkus and Supper's Ready for example.  Again.. as I've posted in the past... if don't don't like a part of Supper's Ready.. wait for the next one....  here..  wait..... I"ll let  John McFerrin say it ...he's a pro at  ...I'm not...

' ELP had had Tarkus, Genesis had had Supper's Ready, King Crimson had had, er, Lizard, not to mention Jethro Tull with Thick as a Brick and so on. .

Thing is, though, none of these tracks had really been "20-minute songs" in the truest sense. ALL of them essentially were several "conventional" pop and rock songs strung together with instrumental breaks instead of pauses, with a couple of reprises here and there to provide a proper feeling of "completion" at the end. Now, one may argue that that is actually the preferred way to approach a side-long track, and I of course love all of these to death (er, except Lizard. Lizard annoys me). But still, all of these tracks could easily be split into different songs and listened to separately (er, if you had that capability with your listening device).

So Yes took a different route, a route that was both simpler and more complicated than what had previously been attempted. And what was that route? Well, first of all, examine the basic structure of a pop-song, as mentioned in a comment below: Intro/verse/chorus/verse/chorus/middle8/instrumental-break/verse/chorus/outro. To this point, the general idea had been to make the basic verse and chorus melodies as compact as possible, with a minimal amount of development and deconstruction. But, smart men they were, Yes realized that this structure could just as well support lengthy, intensely developed and complex verse melodies. And so they went this route, and in essence created the world's first 19-minute pop song.


I know there are scores of articles out there on the musical structure of Close to the Edge.  It's at the top of the list by any objective standard..... as it should be. It was unique... and the quality speaks for itself. 


2. Tarkus

Fabuously subtle lyrically,  depending on how you read it... and musically...  far superior in shear display of talent than any of the other similar 'cut and paste.

will finish list later...  my suppers's ready...  hahahha.. Need to think on it as well. Those first two or sort of no-brainers in my book.

when it comes to cohesiveness absolutely nothing beats Peter Hammill's opera "The Fall of the House of Usher". the way he weaves several themes from previous acts together in the final act is unsurpassed. since the tracks flow into each other, except for short pauses between the acts, one might as well see the opera as one big piece of music. "Close to the Edge" is beginner's stuff in comparison when it comes to cohesiveness.

I also don't quite agree with you. you might as well take out the "I Get Up - I Get Down" part and make a separate song of it; musically there is nothing that logically leads to this part. it begins as abrupt as similar parts in, for example, "Supper's Ready". you may be historically correct in that it never originally WAS a separate song; for the result, however, this doesn't change anything



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Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:


3. VdGG--A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers.  Features some of Robert Fripp's best guitar work.  I love how the finale is the only happy part of the song, as the narrator has finally gone so insane that he has invented an imaginary friend to keep him company.

it has to be noted that the "guitar" solo at the end of it is NOT a guitar solo at all. it is Hugh Banton doing a Fripp imitation on organ, as he himself said in a radio interview. sounds exactly like Fripp though, doesn't it?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 15 2008 at 11:20

Pink Floyd - Echoes

Van Der Graaf Generator - A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers
 
Yes -Close to the Edge
 
Rush - Xanadu
 
Caravan - NIne Feet UNdergound
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 19 2008 at 14:40
It goes like this:
 
 
 
TARKUS
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Rest of epics.(Just partially joking)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2008 at 02:14
Originally posted by AustinPrince14 AustinPrince14 wrote:

Hmm..

Close to the Edge - Yes just wins. No question
Tales from Topographic Oceans - See "Close to the Edge"


 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 20 2008 at 02:29
I can't remember if I posted in this thread before or not, but I'll give a list now.
 
1.  Supper's Ready -- Genesis:  Not the best composed epic, but definitely the most enjoyable.   When you think of prog epics, your first thought should be Supper's Ready.
 
2.  Awaken -- Yes:  An absolutely ethereal trip through musical regions barely touched by mortal men. 
 
3.  Amarok -- Mike Oldfield:   One of the most intelligent and sophisticated pieces of music ever to enter progdom.   Take my comments about TAAB below and raise them to the third power.  You won't realize it until you are about halway through the piece, but this is amazingly well composed and performed.  The differing transmutations of the themes will knock you out. 
 
4.  Thick as a Brick -- Jethro Tull:  Sigh.  I hate even putting this in the top 5, but I have to admit that what they did on this album was something unheard of at the time.  At the something was making an album long epic that was truly more or less one cohesive piece of music and which was also intelligent and entertaining.
 
5.  Mekanik Destructiv Kommandoh -- Magma:   If you view the whole album as one epic, this deserves a mention.  A complex, innovative and entertaining piece that I consider tied for fifth with the next album.
 
5  Journey to the Center of the Earth -- Rick Wakeman:  Everything that is good and bad about prog appears in this album.  I would claim that this is the album that defines prog.  It's like Supper's Ready but with the less likeable prog elements more prominent.
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THE TOP FIVE:
 
5. "Pictures at an Exhibition" -ELP Probably their best "long song" ever, it's really more of an album...and it really honestly is pretty damn fun.
 
4. "Phantom of the Opera" -Iron Maiden I know, I know. Unforgiveable sin. But gimme a break! This song rocks, is intelligent, is complex, AND was put out in the eighties. What more do you want?
 
3. "When the Music's Over" -The Doors Not quite as "epic" as "The End," but it's more interesting, more varied, and raises just as many emotions. Perfectly put together. What can I say?
 
2. "The Tain" -The Decemberists This stands right on next to classic prog epics, and actually beats most of them into submission. Maybe the number two spot is a tad much, but, this thang needs it's props. It's practically "Thick as a Brick Part 3." Oh yeah, that reminds me...
 
1. "Thick as a Brick." Duh. What did you THINK I was gonna put, "Close to the Edge?" Aside from the fact that it's actually an album, this is probably the best song ever written. It's...just...freakin'...perfect. Or, you know, CLOSE to being perfect. Close enough.
 
THE UNDERRATED (no order):
 
"Ghosts" -The Strawbs
"Chateau Disaster" -Jethro Tull
"The Soft Parade" -The Doors
"Maggie M'gill" -The Doors
"Rocks on the Road" -Jethro Tull
"Inna Gadda da Vida" -Iron Butterfly
"Right to the Way and Rules of the World" -Ween
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 23 2008 at 00:32
In no real order:

Yes Awaken: More of a mini-Epic; this song haunts my dreams. In good and bad ways.

Porcupine Tree
Russia on Ice: Again, mini-Epic (This one clocking in at 13:03.) Brilliant. An almost two-part dungeon. Cold and painful. A sweet tedium; If Valium was a song.

Chris Squier Safe (Canon Song): In my current will and testament, this song gets played at my funeral.

Peter Hammil A Louse is not a Home: If a were a single, 27 year old artist, living by himself, I would listen to this song every night before I passed out. And I do.

Traffic The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys: Simple Song, but puts me in another dimension. A seemingly jazzy one. Great vocals and piano work from Mr. Winwood.

I also love every other classic Epic from Ange to Zappa.




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