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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 09:25 |
Man Overboard wrote:
b) Listen ONLY to music made from now until 100 years in the future. The start date is TODAY. You will have no memory of previous music, only the music that exists from today, onward.
These choices only impact you. Forthcoming artists will still be influenced by past artists and put out the music they'd put out anyway, should you choose the latter.
Can you decide?
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Definitely b, because I'll get the past 100 years through their influence on the artists. I'm currently in a similar state as far as some 70s prog bands are concerned. I only listen to Yes, Genesis or Gentle Giant through bands like Spock's Beard, because I never find the time to listen to the classics.
It's a nice question, well done!
P.S.: Please don't use my Spock's Beard comment to start a 70s/90s war here, there's a whole Spock's Beard thread "next door".
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BaldJean
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 09:30 |
Man Overboard wrote:
After much debate, and it absolutely kills me to do this...
I'm going to have to choose B. Our progressive pioneers certainly "chose B" in their own way.
Now don't get me wrong, I love the early progressive rock more than anything else, but...
The music that interests me the most comes from the past 40
years. The previous 60 gave me little to love, except jazz.
However, I'm willing to risk it all to see what's coming in the next
100. Considering even the "new" prog bands are either peaked or
close to peaking, I'd be losing that just as much as I'd be losing King
Crimson, Yes, Genesis, and other favorites. But.. who knows
what's to come?
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There is a logical mistake in your argument which I'd like to point
out. Without any prior knowledge of earlier music it is higly unlikely
you would love the music of the future. A musical taste is acquired
over the years. You just don't get thrown into the world and say: "Ok,
I like neo-prog". It is simply impossible.
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
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tuxon
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 09:37 |
BaldJean wrote:
Man Overboard wrote:
After much debate, and it absolutely kills me to do this...
I'm going to have to choose B. Our progressive pioneers certainly "chose B" in their own way.
Now don't get me wrong, I love the early progressive rock more than anything else, but...
The music that interests me the most comes from the past 40 years. The previous 60 gave me little to love, except jazz. However, I'm willing to risk it all to see what's coming in the next 100. Considering even the "new" prog bands are either peaked or close to peaking, I'd be losing that just as much as I'd be losing King Crimson, Yes, Genesis, and other favorites. But.. who knows what's to come?
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There is a logical mistake in your argument which I'd like to point out. Without any prior knowledge of earlier music it is higly unlikely you would love the music of the future. A musical taste is acquired over the years. You just don't get thrown into the world and say: "Ok, I like neo-prog". It is simply impossible.
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There is a logical mistake in your argument there baldJean
You would have 100 years to acquire a taste in music
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Man Overboard
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 09:43 |
tuxon wrote:
BaldJean wrote:
Man Overboard wrote:
After much debate, and it absolutely kills me to do this...
I'm going to have to choose B. Our progressive pioneers certainly "chose B" in their own way.
Now don't get me wrong, I love the early progressive rock more than anything else, but...
The
music that interests me the most comes from the past 40 years.
The previous 60 gave me little to love, except jazz. However, I'm
willing to risk it all to see what's coming in the next 100.
Considering even the "new" prog bands are either peaked or close to
peaking, I'd be losing that just as much as I'd be losing King Crimson,
Yes, Genesis, and other favorites. But.. who knows what's
to come?
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There
is a logical mistake in your argument which I'd like to point out.
Without any prior knowledge of earlier music it is higly unlikely you
would love the music of the future. A musical taste is acquired over
the years. You just don't get thrown into the world and say: "Ok, I
like neo-prog". It is simply impossible.
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There is a logical mistake in your argument there baldJean
You would have 100 years to acquire a taste in music |
Quite true! When Kansas opened the door to me, I was an innocent
kid. Hearing something like The Flower Kings would've surely done
the same, as they have the same complex, experimental, symphonic
elements that attracted me to Kansas in the first place.
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greenback
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 10:36 |
choice B is for teenagers
choose Jethro Tull "A"
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Manunkind
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 10:39 |
Snow Dog wrote:
I'm gonna live dangerous and go B!................Hey what happened to the stereo! |
I'm choosing A but PLEASE, PLEASE make the cut-off tomorrow (or Tuesday, to be on the safe side) - Monday's the official release day of "Octavarium"!
It would probably take me 100 years to earn enough money to buy or to otherwise get all the music I'd want to hear anyway...
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Jared
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 10:47 |
tuxon wrote:
But I don't want to live for another 100 years, oh the agony of having to deal with this earthly hell for another 100 years
But if the choise have to be made I'd choose the latter. All new music, I also like to live dangerously
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Hey Tuxon.. its only an earthly hell because you live in an overpopulated little country, where there are no hills, all the cheese is tasteless and you allow your kids to put little chocolate 'hundreds and thousands' on their bread at breakfast time.
Escape now while you are still young and emigrate to Belgium!!
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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BaldJean
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 10:54 |
tuxon wrote:
BaldJean wrote:
Man Overboard wrote:
After much debate, and it absolutely kills me to do this...
I'm going to have to choose B. Our progressive pioneers certainly "chose B" in their own way.
Now don't get me wrong, I love the early progressive rock more than anything else, but...
The
music that interests me the most comes from the past 40 years.
The previous 60 gave me little to love, except jazz. However, I'm
willing to risk it all to see what's coming in the next 100.
Considering even the "new" prog bands are either peaked or close to
peaking, I'd be losing that just as much as I'd be losing King Crimson,
Yes, Genesis, and other favorites. But.. who knows what's
to come?
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There
is a logical mistake in your argument which I'd like to point out.
Without any prior knowledge of earlier music it is higly unlikely you
would love the music of the future. A musical taste is acquired over
the years. You just don't get thrown into the world and say: "Ok, I
like neo-prog". It is simply impossible.
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There is a logical mistake in your argument there baldJean
You would have 100 years to acquire a taste in music |
But would the music be prog then? Could you like prog at all without
any knowledge of any of its influences? And, what's more, wouldn't it
be a rather dull choice to vote for prog only?
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
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Man Overboard
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 11:00 |
greenback wrote:
choice B is for teenagers
choose Jethro Tull "A" |
1969: Prog rock is for teenagers!
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Ed_The_Dead
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 11:13 |
Manunkind wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
I'm gonna live dangerous and go B!................Hey what happened to the stereo! |
I'm choosing A but PLEASE, PLEASE make the cut-off tomorrow (or Tuesday, to be on the safe side) - Monday's the official release day of "Octavarium"!
It would probably take me 100 years to earn enough money to buy or to otherwise get all the music I'd want to hear anyway...
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WORD. I'd choose B (starting from today), soI'd get Octavarium and the other DT stuff. But then i'd never hear Maiden... ehmmm.... This is a really hard one....
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Man Overboard
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 11:29 |
Did Maiden retire? Dance Of Death was good, despite the bad cover.
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Manunkind
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 11:31 |
Man Overboard wrote:
Did Maiden retire? Dance Of Death was good, despite the bad cover. |
Maiden won't retire until they look like Eddy.
Which shouldn't be long now...
Edited by ProgLucky
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FishyMonkey
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 12:13 |
Previous 100 years. There's so much stuff I love from the past 100
years. Hell, I'd be happy wiht just all of Porcupine Tree, YES, King
Crimson, Opeth, Pain of Salvation and Dream Theater work. I'd end up
expanding of course though.
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Ed_The_Dead
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 12:15 |
Yeah but look, what about stuff like "7th son...", "Somewhere in Time" or "Brave New World"? I woulden't get to know them
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Man Overboard
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 12:22 |
I have faith that there will be more breakthroughs in music... I
don't think that all that can be explored has been explored...
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Ed_The_Dead
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 12:38 |
Well looking at MTV and all that stuff You're pretty optimistic
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omri
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 16:34 |
If I live for one hundred years more there's a chance I'll be the last man on earth. And how would I get electricity to play my music ?
My answer will be A for sure. For me most of interesting music including classic (Stravinsky, Bartok, deBussy, Rimsky-Korsakov and a lot more), Jazz and ECM (Jan Garbarek, Zakir Husain, Stefan Mikus, Paul Winter and more) and prog (King crimson at first & many others) occured in the last 100 years. I agree with Nacho that giving up Bach is terrible but it happens in both choices.
I do'nt think the next 100 years will get even close to the last ones since the media and popularity (what they call - the global village) pushes everything to a low quality (Britny Spears for example).
In Bowie's words : "So much has gone and little is new"
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The Miracle
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 16:45 |
I'd rather die then choose B
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Bj-1
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 16:52 |
Man Overboard wrote:
Now this is a tough one.
Okay, you have a choice with two options.
You are guaranteed to live for 100 more years, in good health, without aging.
You can:
a) Listen ONLY to music written/recorded in the past 100 years. The cutoff date is TODAY. You will never hear anything outside of that period, nor will you hear about it or read about it. Basically, music ceases to exist with the exception of the past 100 years.
b) Listen ONLY to music made from now until 100 years in the future. The start date is TODAY. You will have no memory of previous music, only the music that exists from today, onward.
These choices only impact you. Forthcoming artists will still be influenced by past artists and put out the music they'd put out anyway, should you choose the latter.
Can you decide?
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I go for A. The music that is now is mostly crap IMO, so this is a easy choice for me. I just can't live without "Foxtrot" or "Octopus"
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threefates
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Posted: June 05 2005 at 17:05 |
I'd go with A also... And not only in regard to losing prog from the 70s... but bubblegum from the 60s, like the Monkees, The Grass Roots, The Association, Hermans Hermits, The Turtles,.. I wouldn't want to lose Steppenwolf, CCR, Elvis Presley or THE BEATLES.. all the songs I had to learn to play when taking piano lessons as a child...
Also the Supremes, the Temptations, the Drifters, Smokey Robinson, Marvin Gaye, Stevie Wonder, James Taylor, Carole King, Joni Mitchell, Crosby Stills & Nash
Then those songs you were raised with... You are my sunshine, How much is that doggy in the window, Itsy Bitsy Spider, the Wheels on the bus go round and round...
How could anyone give up the music from the last 100 years.... for anything???
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