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LinusW
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Posted: July 09 2008 at 18:13 | ||
jimmy_row
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Posted: July 09 2008 at 20:14 | ||
I love Collage, that's where it all started for them...a little rough around the edges and you can hear some Deep Purple and Atomic Rooster in there. I thought Elementi was okay, some parts are great but wasn't a big fan of the guitar sound throughout. I'm glad you like 'em, one of my fave bands
How'd yer exam go Linus?
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LinusW
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Posted: July 10 2008 at 08:48 | ||
97%. Made one mistake on the part when we were supposed to identify unknown plants via the flora. I can live with that . I must say that both of them is up to par with their classical albums. But then Felona E Sorona never impressed me that much. I prefer Uomo Di Pezza, and while very good, it's no killer album for me. |
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jimmy_row
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Posted: July 11 2008 at 11:43 | ||
QUELLA VECCHIA LOCANDA — Quella Vecchia Locanda
Review by LinusW Collaborator Italian Symphonic Prog Team Rough around the edges and filled with spontaneous, infectious bursts of energy, Quella Vecchia Locanda’s first album easily finds a place in your heart if that’s what does it for you, musically speaking. At first it almost felt too unpolished, as if some of the songs were put together mostly on a whim; lacking in smooth transitions and natural mood-shifts. Thankfully, after a dozen or more listens, that criticism still remains, but the fantastic music has been given a proper chance to grow. Unfortunately, this is one of those rare albums that just doesn’t reach me on an emotional level, even though it has all the characteristics for it. The only reasonable explanation I can think of is the fact that much of it feels very slightly familiar. Almost every spin of it have revealed new passages, breaks or moments where I can swear I’ve heard almost the exact thing before. Most of these moments actually originate outside of RPI, from all over the prog spectrum. While initially mostly funny, it now somehow alienates me from the record. Paranoia? Perhaps. But it sure consumes some of the originality for me. It is an interesting and varied blend of all the characteristics of RPI, I cannot deny that. Stating that this is one of the most representative albums of them all isn’t much of an exaggeration. There are the abundant classical influences, folky touches, inspired vocals and warm keys. On top of that also an interesting rhythm section with a skilfully played, more melodic bass and great flute and emotional violin work. Just as many other early albums playing this kind of music, much of the heavier influences are still there. Definitely more hard-rocking than what the poster names PFM, Banco and Le Orme come across on their biggest albums. It adds spice to the mix, a quality that makes this album interesting for people with a broader taste of music, who not necessarily think RPI is a sub-genre for them. Some songs almost come across as some kind of contemporary pop-rock, reaching its peak in the often eerily Babe I’m Gonna Leave You-like Realtà. The more I listen to this album, the more I feel that it can be broke down in four distinct pieces. The hard ‘n’ heavy guitar and rhythm-carried parts, the Tull-ish folk-jazz blend with flute, the pastoral and delicate classical arrangements and finally the best part of it all; where it all forms a consistent whole. I’d want more of that fusion to be really happy with this album. Too often are these individually excellent parts just that…alone. One follows after another without interfering with each other, making many of the songs feel scattered. This might come across as a little stingy, but this is what keeps me from enjoying the album fully, even with the many pros considered. When these different parts diffuse in to each other in an original way, those moments aren’t far from the masterpiece zone. Recommended for discovering many of the characteristics of the genre. 3 stars. //LinusW ****************************************************************************************************************
The first paragraph says a lot. If you like that raw, almost directionless approach, this will be an enjoyable album, as it is for me; many don't take to it right away...the second album may be a better bet in that case.
Good review Linus, nothing like coming to PA and seeing an RPI review at the top of the homepage
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LinusW
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Posted: July 11 2008 at 11:49 | ||
The strange thing is that I love Palepoli, which is even rawer and changes directions as a rule more than an exception. But it just works better, it flows more naturally and fluff and fluff
QVL was a hard album to review for me. Lot's of good stuff, and lot's of stuff I found disappointing, without really being able to put my finger on it. But three stars means "good", so I did enjoy it. But it's not an album I'd recommend without someone asking for just that. |
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jimmy_row
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Posted: July 11 2008 at 11:54 | ||
I'll be interested in what you have to say about Palepoli, that's one of the "big ones" that I still don't have.
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Finnforest
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Posted: July 11 2008 at 12:41 | ||
Very nice...and i'm dying to read both your reviews about the 2nd QVL and about Cervello "Melos." I hope you are able to find those at reasonable prices. Unless like me, you drop a fortune on the Japanese minis....
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jimmy_row
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Posted: July 11 2008 at 14:22 | ||
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jimmy_row
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Posted: July 11 2008 at 14:24 | ||
If QVL made the thread...we owe it to Osanna as well:
keep up the great work Linus
OSANNA — Palepoli Review by LinusW Collaborator Italian Symphonic Prog Team Bringing chaos and mystery along the way, Palepoli is one of the most unstoppable records I’ve encountered in all genres I’ve dabbled in. It’s an excessive display of energy, skill and bold ideas and as such it has quickly established itself as one of my favourite albums. Generally considered Osanna’s crowning achievement, it’s an album that will rock many boats filled with preconceived opinions about prog rock from Italy. With dramatic switches in tempo and style, a love for heavy guitars (even dissonant at times) and a gritty, raw quality that makes the music feel honest and alive, the pastoral and delicate landscapes often visited by other RPI bands is replaced with a more urban sound. Those might be the characteristics that strike you the most, but the music often reveals the more traditional sounds many have come to love as well. Mellow symphonic arrangements with exquisite flute and guitar parts, flowing Mellotron and emotional crescendos are done just as good on Palepoli as on most readily accepted symphonic masterpieces, but it is the excellent Museo Rosenbach’s Zarathustra that comes to mind when describing Palepoli's mellower parts. Having a fair amount of structure and sound experimentalism, a word of warning should be sent out to all of you who find this scary, pointless or just plain stupid. This is confronting music, both as perceived by the listener, but also much of the point behind Palepoli. Hugely different parts crash into each other without fear, build-ups result in nothing, or nothing results in everything; noisy, aggressive distorted guitar and frantic drumming, wild saxophone! All expanding the sonic possibilities of RPI a hundredfold. Different influences fight for a place in the spotlight, and when only hearing Palepoli in the background, it may appear as chaotic as a barbaric battlefield, and only glimpses of any sort of “proper” structure can be found in the thick fog of war. Having only two long songs with a short instrumental break separating the two, much can be said and done throughout the about forty minutes the songs have to their disposal. Oro Caldo begins with the sounds of a city, with an ethnic melody and subdued drums taking the lead. A triumphant, fast-paced part launches this track properly with a hard-rocking edge worthy of many outspokenly heavier bands. Moving on to deceptively safer symphonic territory for a couple of minutes, one of those chaotically powerful guitar-driven parts wait around the corner. Stunning and fast flute performance here…and yet the whole thing resolves with an alien yet tasteful bluesy guitar solo, only to be kicked back to frenzy again. Right when the song reaches a natural ending point, it’s time to get the thing rolling again with what is probably my favourite part of Oro Caldo. A foreboding, swirling and dark theme (again fronted by guitar) and one of those inspirational, raised-fist vocal parts the Italians do so well. Chaos back, chaos gone, mellow, delicate and reflective acoustic part and finally this tour-de-force ends on a dissonant note. Animale Senza Respiro is much in the same vein, but perhaps even more chaotic and experimental. Lots of Area vibes coming out of this one, with stripped and noodling parts and a bigger jazz influence. Breaks with a rumbling saxophone and a lot of punch. Awe-inspiring, commanding and altogether excellent. This is such an exciting album, such a godly blend of styles and moods, and above all; very unique in all of what we call prog rock. Some call it bizarre madness. Fortunately, madness and geniality often go hand in hand, and this is certainly the case with Palepoli. One of the masterpieces of masterpieces. 5 stars. //LinusW Edited by jimmy_row - July 11 2008 at 14:25 |
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Padraic
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Posted: July 11 2008 at 14:35 | ||
Can the experts tell me if this would be good to buy? It's an Area compilation.
http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=7513615 |
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jimmy_row
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Posted: July 11 2008 at 14:57 | ||
Here are the albums that are represented in full: Arbeit Macht Frei (1973)
Caution Radiation Area (1974)
Crac! (1975)
Maledetti/Maudits (1976)
plus the second half of the live album Are(A)zione (1975)
some of "Event '76" is on there as well, which is basically just a bunch of experimental noise involving the audience...not necessary IMO but the rest is solid with occasional exceptions... Maledetti is weak in places but some like it, and CRA is a tough one to get used to but has some great stuff.
That is more than enough to get you started, and that price looks damn good given the track list! I hope you like it
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Padraic
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Posted: July 11 2008 at 14:59 | ||
Thanks for the advice, Ryan*, I think I'll pull the trigger!
* easy to remember your name - it's my little boy's name as well. |
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jimmy_row
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Posted: July 11 2008 at 15:04 | ||
I looked back at that track list, and I think the whole Event 76 is there (you may need earplugs) as well as a track I've never heard of (#19), let me know how that goes for ya
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Padraic
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Posted: July 11 2008 at 15:08 | ||
Just ordered it! I'll definitely check back in here once I receive it and give my impressions.
And at the risk of being pretentious, my son's middle name is my first name. |
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Alberto Muñoz
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Posted: July 11 2008 at 15:09 | ||
Linus check my review of the first album of BMS
Cheers
Alberto
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Alberto Muñoz
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Posted: July 11 2008 at 15:11 | ||
here's the link: http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=163275
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micky
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Posted: July 11 2008 at 18:59 | ||
excellent.. review.. excellent. |
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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micky
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Posted: July 11 2008 at 19:04 | ||
pfff.. on the frickin link... revel in your glory man man.. I dream of being able to review albums like that... Review
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Alberto Muñoz
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Posted: July 11 2008 at 20:01 | ||
Micky: thanks you for your words!!
cheers
Alberto
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LinusW
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Posted: July 11 2008 at 22:23 | ||
Another for you. Well said! Edited by LinusW - July 11 2008 at 22:35 |
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