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Jared
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Posted: July 05 2008 at 05:19 |
^^Dean, may I briefly refer you back to my rant on the petrol station closure, a third of the way down page 80?
Our 11 new flats (which have now been advertised as starting at £134,000. incidentally...) were passed in a VERY similar way (I know someone who attends the committees) and only got thru on the proviso that they were for Key Workers...which has been flouted....
...Keystone bloody cops, more likely...
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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chopper
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Posted: July 05 2008 at 15:01 |
Quick rant about tickets. I ordered some for Stevie Wonder yesterday off the Internet. Both the web sites selling them were charging over £6 per ticket booking fee (this is off the Internet remember, I do nearly all the work!). To make matters worse, they charged me £2.25 postage - that's to put 3 tickets in an envelope. Talk about daylight robbery!
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Jared
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Posted: July 05 2008 at 15:21 |
^^I know, its an absolute rip off.... its almost as bad with Midland Box Office and TicketMaster (nicknamed Ticketb*****d for obvious reasons... )
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Kestrel
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Posted: July 05 2008 at 17:34 |
Agreed, Ticketmaster is a huge scam. But so are ticket prices in general, I think. I wonder if tickets are more expensive or are cheaper than what they were in the 70s, when adjusted for inflation?
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Dean
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Posted: July 05 2008 at 19:26 |
^ I use the Mars Bar price index... in 1972 a ticket to see Pink Floyd at Wembey Empire Pool cost the equivalent of 25 Mars Bars (£1.50/£0.06)... which in today's prices would be £11.25 (25*£0.45) ...
The Paul Rogers/Queen gig at the same venue next November will set you back £49.50 plus booking fee and postage ... or the equivalent of 128 Mars Bars!
So, tickets are 5 times more expensive now than in the 70s
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Statutory-Mike
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Posted: July 05 2008 at 19:26 |
I agree, tickets should be sold as is...convience charges and what-not are ridiculous. The only way to get out of it is to drive to the venue and buy them there.
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Kestrel
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Posted: July 05 2008 at 21:18 |
Dean wrote:
^ I use the Mars Bar price index... in 1972 a ticket to see Pink Floyd at Wembey Empire Pool cost the equivalent of 25 Mars Bars (£1.50/£0.06)... which in today's prices would be £11.25 (25*£0.45) ...
The Paul Rogers/Queen gig at the same venue next November will set you back £49.50 plus booking fee and postage ... or the equivalent of 128 Mars Bars!
So, tickets are 5 times more expensive now than in the 70s |
Hahaha, very interesting way to look at it.
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Dean
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Posted: July 05 2008 at 21:40 |
Kestrel wrote:
Dean wrote:
^ I use the Mars Bar price index... in 1972 a ticket to see Pink Floyd at Wembey Empire Pool cost the equivalent of 25 Mars Bars (£1.50/£0.06)... which in today's prices would be £11.25 (25*£0.45) ...
The Paul Rogers/Queen gig at the same venue next November will set you back £49.50 plus booking fee and postage ... or the equivalent of 128 Mars Bars!
So, tickets are 5 times more expensive now than in the 70s
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Hahaha, very interesting way to look at it. |
I find that using Mars Bars is the most reliable method - they are a luxury item that is not subject to technology improvements or raw material cost fluctuations so are pretty stable price-wise so generally track inflation quite closely.
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Jared
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Posted: July 06 2008 at 04:46 |
^^^having said that, the two Lydney gigs and one Bilston gig I have attended recently have set me back £12, £10 and £12 respectively...averaging out at £11.33....
the only question would be, do Panic Room, Magenta and The Watch in any way equate to Pink Floyd in 1972??
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: July 06 2008 at 07:51 |
I went to see Gov't Mule, an American band, when they first played the UK 4 or 5 years back, for £7.50 but when I saw them the year after, at the same venue (Astoria 2) tickets cost me £12.50.
They were excellent both times but the first time was quite reasonably priced. I guess they underpriced them the first time.
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sleeper
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Posted: July 06 2008 at 16:34 |
Well, when I saw Cult of Luna at the Academy last week, the tickets cost me £10. However, to see Spock's Beard tomorrow will cost me £18. I wouldnt say the prices are unreasonable, especially when you wonder just how much will the takings be before everyone gets their cut.
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Dean
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Posted: July 06 2008 at 18:31 |
fandango wrote:
^^^having said that, the two Lydney gigs and one Bilston gig I have attended recently have set me back £12, £10 and £12 respectively...averaging out at £11.33....
the only question would be, do Panic Room, Magenta and The Watch in any way equate to Pink Floyd in 1972?? |
Or more acurately, does Lydney town hall equate to the Empire Pool?
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Jim Garten
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Posted: July 07 2008 at 03:41 |
That depends, is it a soul-less barn with appalling acoustics?
fandango wrote:
its an absolute rip off.... its almost as bad with Midland Box Office and TicketMaster (nicknamed Ticketb*****d for obvious reasons...) |
Taking the Empire Pool (or Wembley Arena to you young'uns) example again, when we went to see Rush there last year, I bought 6 tickets, online direct from the venue, so there was no human interaction whatsoever; I just printed the tickets off at home - so why was I charged £3.50 per ticket "administration fee"?? OK, there may have been a nominal bank charge for using my card online, but not for every bloody ticket.
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Dean
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Posted: July 07 2008 at 03:46 |
Just bought 3 tickets to the Cambridge Rock Festival and the booking fee was per order, not per ticket - which even though is still a rip-off, it's not as bad as I was expecting.
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mystic fred
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Posted: July 10 2008 at 03:00 |
i decided to scale down from large expensive venues and extortionate booking fees and give the 'ol Shepherds Bush Empire a go later this year - i booked for the Groundhogs/Hawkwind/Focus show on 2nd November and Opus show on 20th, each show (standing) for £18.50 plus £2.25 postage fee, will let you know how it goes!
Edited by mystic fred - July 10 2008 at 03:04
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Kestrel
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Posted: July 10 2008 at 03:03 |
When I bought Yes tickets for their now cancelled tour, there was an $11 service charge per ticket. Ridiculous.
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Jim Garten
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Posted: July 10 2008 at 07:32 |
$11 per ticket is appalling - there are virtually no overheads in ticketing these days, with most people using their computers to buy online from another computer; ticket prices are way too high anyway for many shows - how can the venues (or indeed the agencies) justify these "administration charges".
I refer the honourable gentleman to my previous answer:
Thieving B ds!
Edited by Jim Garten - July 10 2008 at 07:33
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ihatethesnp
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Posted: July 24 2008 at 21:09 |
I hate the snp....a party so up it's own arse as to be treated as a joke. It's leader is a cold fish and it's health minister is akin to giving Hitler the contract to install showers in Israel.
Why no one can see through them says so much about Scotland today. A country that has no real leader and a smalll insignificant party that says what it wants and is allowed by tv coverage to do so.
If i could could move away i would so. I hate how Scotland has become under the snp executive.
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Man Erg
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Posted: July 25 2008 at 03:21 |
mystic fred wrote:
i decided to scale down from large expensive venues and extortionate booking fees and give the 'ol Shepherds Bush Empire a go later this year - i booked for the Groundhogs/Hawkwind/Focus show on 2nd November and Opus show on 20th, each show (standing) for £18.50 plus £2.25 postage fee, will let you know how it goes!
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Hi Steve.
Are you getting mixed up with Nik Turner and Martin Turner?
It's Martin Turner's Wishbone Ash and not Hawkwind on the bill for 2nd Nov.
Edited by Man Erg - July 25 2008 at 03:21
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Man Erg
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Posted: July 25 2008 at 16:41 |
FORLOCKS!
I've been having problems trying to posts an dupdate and correct my posts for the past two weeks and I have come to the end of my tether!
I try to post a reply etc. and I get some sort of server time out message. It happens on whatever pc I use.
This is really getting on my nerves.
I tried to complain on the proper {Report Bugs Here} thread but it wouldn't upload!
MOLLUSCS!
Oh! I give up!!!
Edited by Man Erg - July 25 2008 at 16:49
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Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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