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Chris S
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Posted: July 13 2008 at 00:44 |
peskypesky wrote:
As much as I like the new Coldplay, it ain't prog. It's not even art-rock, IMO. |
OK....so how would you define Coldplay's music?
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ShipOfFools
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Posted: July 13 2008 at 00:33 |
Coldplay are excellent. I've been a fan since A Rush, and I have all their albums. X&Y is very uneven and inconsistent, but it's still pretty good (much better than 99% of what else is out there.)
The new album is also amazing. It's quite possibly my favorite release of the year (I'll have to wait and see what else comes out this year before I give a definite answer.)
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ClassicRocker
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Posted: July 09 2008 at 22:59 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
They were on The Daily Show last night, didn't seem too bad, but that's really all I know of them.
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Yeah, i saw that episode too. Not a bad set of songs, but i wasn't crazy about the sound on the show... compared to the CD versions it wasn't as good.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: July 08 2008 at 17:40 |
They were on The Daily Show last night, didn't seem too bad, but that's really all I know of them.
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Demonoid
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Posted: July 08 2008 at 16:17 |
Coldplay are meh imo. You can compare them to Oasis. They have some good songs here and there but thats about it. The albums are inconsistent with filler/mediocre songs in between and it gets repetitive very often. To tell the truth though, i liked 'viva la vida' more than their previous works. It sounded quite different. If you guys want a prog. album in the sense, a different album from a pop band, then check out Narrow Stairs by Death Cab For Cutie. Sounds a lot different from the 'Indie-pop' they are known for. Theres just something progressive about that album.
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BroSpence
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Posted: July 07 2008 at 22:56 |
I can't stand Coldplay. They come off as wannabes and write sh*tty repetitive songs with lyrics that could apply to friggin anything.
That being said, their new album is certainly a change of pace, however that is all due in part to MR. Eno. The man that told them their old material sucked (in more precise words), and that "prog is making a come back and they should try it out".
If you read the new interview in Rolling Stone with Chris Martin you can find out all about how Martin is kind of dumb and washed up and Eno outshines his band by 3094823049238403 light years with one production job and one line of lyric.
Apparently, Martin believes that the whole word should vote on who the next U.S. president should be too since "it effects everyone". Ugh. I can't wait until that band goes away.
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ClassicRocker
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Posted: July 07 2008 at 14:05 |
The Whistler wrote:
Hey, MoreIt'sMe, I doubt you're still reading, but what do you mean the Animal Collective album is best suited for my tastes? I'm curious now...
(Oh, and, I'm downloading some random Flaming Lips tracks. If'n anyone cares.) |
Cool Stuff. Since you appear to be interested in these bands, I'd say with Animal Collective try out Moreitsy's recommendation Feels or their newest album Strawberry Jam (the latter is what got me into them, and I still prefer it above the others). If you are liking the Flaming Lips' style, I'd strongly recommend Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots and as someone else suggested The Soft Bulletin. I got At War With The Mystics recently, but it's not as good as the other two. From their pre-"commercial" (read: pre-soft bulletin) period, I've only heard one album (when grunge was still the rage; you can hear the influence). The track from it "She Don't Use Jelly" is always good for a laugh with it's off-beat lyrics, and the tune isn't bad either. - Happy searching
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Atavachron
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Posted: July 07 2008 at 04:16 |
GREAT blog my friend, sorry I didn't read it thoroughly the first time.. someday you'll be the one writing the album notes we all read (now that would be a good gig..)
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The Whistler
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Posted: July 07 2008 at 03:50 |
The T wrote:
Very good album.. I must say... "proggiest of the year?" ...that's a bit of a stretch.... |
Well, that MIGHT have been a slight exaggeration...or "hook" as they say in the industry. Heh.
(Yeah, that's right objectors. No one saying that Coldplay is the new Gentle Giant. Just that intelligence ain't dead in popular music; seriously, did you read the post at all, or just go based on the title?)
Hey, MoreIt'sMe, I doubt you're still reading, but what do you mean the Animal Collective album is best suited for my tastes? I'm curious now...
(Oh, and, I'm downloading some random Flaming Lips tracks. If'n anyone cares.)
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Unknown
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Posted: June 30 2008 at 22:56 |
First of all, great blog.. I'm a fan of Coldplay since their first album, although the last one, X&Y, was very repetitive and boring, with the exception of songs like Fix You and The Hardest Part. So this band was dead for me, i didn't expect anything new from them...but i was wrong. It seems like they realised that too. Brian Eno made a very good work with this guys and they brought a great new album. It's not perfect, but it realy good if we listen to all the crap that is released in this days. It's only a way of talking. For all the people that say that this isn't a band that deserve some discussion in this site, i say open your mind and get of the closet. If we stay attached to the root of prog and if we listen only prog, we will be like the people that only listen metal or techno. I try to listen some other stuff that is not prog. With this I discovered Opeth, Spitz (an alternative pop-rock japanese band that some times resemble Beatles) and other bands. If you don't know give it a try.. From this album there are 3 or 4 main songs: 42, Yes (it's actually a two-in-one song), Violet Hill and Strawberry Swing. 42 is probably the most prog song from the album, but the end of Violet Hill is absolutely fantastic..it's 34 seconds of great musical sense. Maybe it's a return to the prog ideal..i hope so.. Sorry if i write too much and say nothing..and for my english too..
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peskypesky
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Posted: June 30 2008 at 15:23 |
As much as I like the new Coldplay, it ain't prog. It's not even art-rock, IMO.
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jimmy_row
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Posted: June 29 2008 at 11:02 |
^ then go to the "prog music lounge" where we talk about PROG.
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Uncle Spooky
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Posted: June 29 2008 at 05:35 |
I am aghast. I come to Prog Archives to take refuge from the annoying affected whining vocals of Chris Martin and "popular" bands like Coldplay. And what do I find? Discussions about Coldplay and how they might be proggy! ARGHH!! Granted, 2008 has been a slow year for prog releases but even so, this is one desperate slippery slope towards Prog Archives being a useless and pointless site if *any* band can be argued to have prog tendencies. The definition of prog will become so vague as to be completely pointless... Shame on you all Mark
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Zitro
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Posted: June 26 2008 at 23:13 |
I never liked coldplay, but this disc was quite enjoyable (I heard it on lastfm except for Sleeping giant). I would give it somewhere from 2.5 - 3 star based on what I have heard and the climax of the last song is actually beautiful. The title track, the closer, and a somewhat ethnic/symphonic song I don't remember its name are my favorites (tho I didn't hear Sleeping Giant which appears to be among the more adventurous tracks).
I don't think it has much to do with prog IMO, but it has a nice airy atmosphere (the production is fabulous, thanks Eno) and is more musically interesting than their previous stuff.
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Darklord55
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Posted: June 26 2008 at 11:28 |
My daughter bought this album a few days ago. Because of your post Mr. Whistler I decided to give it a listen. I too have never been excited with their music. However, I liked this one. It was an entertaining and enjoyable listen. So I put it on my iPod. I wouldn't call it the proggiest album of the year either but it has some proggy moments. A album to say the least!!
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The T
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Posted: June 25 2008 at 14:53 |
Very good album.. I must say... "proggiest of the year?" ...that's a bit of a stretch....
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jimmy_row
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Posted: June 25 2008 at 11:09 |
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mystic fred
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Posted: June 25 2008 at 02:46 |
Very good post, Mr. W ! ...though i was amazed at seeing the "big C" mentioned in PA at all, let alone an album review! i can now admit to being a long time fan of the band, backed up by what is being vaunted as the album of the year in pop land - the moody members of Coldplay certainly interest many genres of music lovers, well done guys!
Coldplay could never be included in PA listings, i fear, if only for the reason that you can buy their albums in Tescos!
Edited by mystic fred - June 25 2008 at 02:49
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Leningrad
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Posted: June 25 2008 at 01:39 |
'Computer Love' is still better than 'Talk'.
I'm pretty sure that's the only Coldplay discussion we're allowed to have at Prog Archives.
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moreitsythanyou
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Posted: June 25 2008 at 01:30 |
peskypesky wrote:
The Whistler wrote:
I don't know too much The Flaming Lips or Animal Collective, but the Lips is a band that I've meant to get into for a while now. I think you've given me my next conquest. |
I highly recommend the Flaming Lips' "Soft Bulletin" :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soft_Bulletin
You might also want to check out Sufan Stevens:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sufjan_Stevens
especially this album:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_on_Feel_the_Illinoise
Both of these albums have some very prog traits. And they're both great. |
These two albums are amazing. For Animal Collective, you should probably start with Feels. I think it suits your tastes best.
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