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Jared
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 07:03 |
^^at my Youth Hostel, I have between 25-30 nesting pairs of House Sparrows, both in boxes around the building, and in the holly hedge around the edge of the car park...
already this season, I've had 2 complaints from customers, saying they had been woken up at 5am (ish) by the dawn chorus. both were from London, where they've murdered most of their sparrows...
..one customer (in all seriousness) suggested that I give customers advance warning that if they take a bedroom at the front of the hostel, they are likely to have their sleep disturbed...
...I know you all think I'm making it up, but I kid you not....
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Dean
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 07:23 |
Wow - you've got sparrows! I haven't seen a sparrow in my garden for years - got just about every other native bird you care to name but sparras are a distinct rarity - something to do with the increased hawk population.
Ironically...
When I lived in the centre of town I use to do all my recording in the attic, and apart from stopping for the nearby church bell chiming every quarter, I didn't need too much in the way of sound-proofing (which would have made the room unbearably hot in summer). Now I live in the sticks I'm astounded by how noisy it really is out here - recording vocals or any acoustic instrument is a no-no. I'll happily admit that some of these extraneous countryside noises are quite Prog, some of them do manage to invoke the feeling of a bucolic idyll: the dawn chorus, the cows, tractors and the passing steam locomotives but I'm not too sure whether to the Chinook helicopters and neighbours' petrol lawn-mowers do though.
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Jim Garten
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 07:36 |
Blacksword wrote:
Lets see a program about a real young couple, without a pot to p1ss in, struggling to get together the smallest of deposits, to part buy/part rent some housing asscociation cupboard |
Andy - such a programme highlighting issues faced by real people would not get the ratings required by the robber baron TV networks...
...unless it were entitled something like "Police Camera Scum Property Ladder" with grainy footage (taken from a helicopter with plenty of snap-cuts) of a young couple going into an estate agent, there to be met by Noel Edmonds with a row of boxes, one of which contains the key to a 1 bedroomed flat on a sink estate (which is all they can afford) & the other 15 boxes contains viral anthrax (which to be honest is preferable), they then get chased by a police car to the estate they can afford (with plenty of cutaway shots to an estate agent giving platitudes like "I did recommend a possible shared ownership scheme whereby they only pay £600 per month mortgage to own 1% of a new-build house made of cardboard & cheese + £750 a month rental on the remainder - this way they get 2 different chances for eviction, as they only earn £20,000 pa between them, but they wouldn't listen") where they're met by Chris Tarrant & Ann Robinson to take part in a gameshow format style property auction where they may get the house, but will definitely lose any shreds of dignity remaining after they'd already spent the last 12 months being told "you don't earn enough" by every mortgage lender in the high street & can only afford the 1 bedroomed sink estate flat as Dodgy Barry gave them a sub-sub-sub-sub prime mortage at an APR of 67% secured on their property, their parents' property, their dog and great uncle albert's remaining kidney...
Still - they may get an additional income from the 20p repeat fee every time it's shown on every single bloody sattelite channel every afternoon, evening & weekend, inbetween re-runs of 'Grand Designs' (and don't even get me started on that)!
Sorry, what was the question again...?
Edited by Jim Garten - June 24 2008 at 07:38
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Blacksword
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 08:07 |
^^ I think you could really be on to something there, Jim!
I can just imagine Ann Robinson.. "Who's a few quid short of the minimum wage? Who thinks they have a God given right to a roof over their heads in 21st Century Britain? It's time to stitch up...the biggest peasant"
Edited by Blacksword - June 24 2008 at 08:07
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Jim Garten
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 08:26 |
Bailiff:
"You are the biggest peasant - Goodbye"
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Dean
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 08:36 |
Jim Garten wrote:
... inbetween re-runs of 'Grand Designs' (and don't even get me started on that)!
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"It's already a week late and 3p over budget I can't see this project ever getting finished at this rate unless he gets his finger out."
"You have to admit it's a bold design but the idea of putting brass hinges on a door is just plain crazy, however he's now a week and half behind schedule and 4p over budget, if he carries on like this I can't see this project ever getting finished."
"We arrived today to hear the disappointing news that there's been another 2½ days delay and he's had to borrow 5p from his father. With little prospect of being able to payback his dad unless some kind if miracle happens, I can't see anyone living here this year...!"
"Just when you thought it couldn't get any worse, the TV production team have cajoled him into hiring a crane and pointlessly filming it in the pouring rain. To add to his misery, I'm now gurning at the camera in a smarmy way and sounding dramatically concerned. The chances of this build completing on time are now non-existent."
"Well, I'm flabbergasted, the job is now finished and I have to say it is remarkable - conversions like this are rare and show great flare and imagination. Who would have thought 10 months ago that this disused chicken coup could be converted into a stylish and practical 5 bedroom house for under 5 million quid. I take my hat off to him."
/edit: sorry, it was my lunchhour and I was bored... and not being a teenager this was all I could think of to do.
Edited by darqDean - June 24 2008 at 08:40
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Jim Garten
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Padraic
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 12:35 |
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Padraic
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 12:37 |
In the U.S. the big annoyance is "McMansions", of which there are oodles of little developments in my area...I drive past and wonder, where the hell is everyone getting this money - I must be in the wrong line of work!
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chopper
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 15:10 |
Can I rant about packaging? We bought a new bed for my youngest son recently and, apart from the usual mountain of cardboard, I now have four bin liners of polystyrene to dispose of! Is this stuff biodegradeable?
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Dean
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 15:24 |
I bought a new PC for work the other day and it came packed in shredded paper. Lots of it. A complete bin-full.
Cool, you may think.
Nice and Eco-friendly, you may say.
Saves the planet, you would reply (smugly)
But no - not in the slightest.
We already have a shredder - it makes a couple of bags of shredded paper a week - as a business we have to pay to dispose of it, now we have to pay to dispose of N ovatech's waste paper too. B ds!
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Padraic
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 15:27 |
darqDean wrote:
I bought a new PC for work the other day and it came packed in shredded paper. Lots of it. A complete bin-full.
Cool, you may think.
Nice and Eco-friendly, you may say.
Saves the planet, you would reply (smugly)
But no - not in the slightest.
We already have a shredder - it makes a couple of bags of shredded paper a week - as a business we have to pay to dispose of it, now we have to pay to dispose of N ovatech's waste paper too. B ds! |
Find out what's cheaper, disposing of the shreds or sending the empty box with shreds back to the vendor.
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chopper
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 17:05 |
fandango wrote:
^^at my Youth Hostel, I have between 25-30 nesting pairs of House Sparrows, both in boxes around the building, and in the holly hedge around the edge of the car park...
already this season, I've had 2 complaints from customers, saying they had been woken up at 5am (ish) by the dawn chorus. both were from London, where they've murdered most of their sparrows...
..one customer (in all seriousness) suggested that I give customers advance warning that if they take a bedroom at the front of the hostel, they are likely to have their sleep disturbed...
...I know you all think I'm making it up, but I kid you not.... |
I can believe that Jared. When these people complained, what did they expect you to do about it exactly? Shoot the birds? I'm off camping again this weekend so I know I'm going to be woken up at 4am again on Saturday and Sunday morning.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 17:38 |
One thing that does annoy me about these housing programs is how many people do not like a house because of the pink walls, blue curtains and green carpet. Even worse than this are those people who redecorate their house in horrid colours (thanks to "TV Designers") just so they can sell the property. Now why go to all that trouble to redecorate a house to how you've always wanted it to look, just sell it to someone who is likely to redecorate it when they move in anyway? If I ever have to look for house (yes, I can hear you guffawing at the back!) I won't be judging it on the awful colourscheme. Sure, if the paint scheme is to my liking, it saves me all the hassle of redecoration but I do not really care for colour schemes all that much. Just paint the walls a light pastel colour, the ceiling white and leave the floor un-carpeted (especially if it's wooden). There's no need to get Nick Knowles and the telev ision crew in for this.
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Jared
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 17:50 |
NaturalScience wrote:
Find out what's cheaper, disposing of the shreds or sending the empty box with shreds back to the vendor.
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the cheapest option would be to take them down to the local bottle bank, in your Sainsbury's car park, at 7am before anyone's looking...
that's what I do...
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Jared
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 17:52 |
chopper wrote:
I can believe that Jared. When these people complained, what did they expect you to do about it exactly? Shoot the birds? I'm off camping again this weekend so I know I'm going to be woken up at 4am again on Saturday and Sunday morning.
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apparently, they should have been given advance warning, and given the option of sleeping in one iof the bedrooms around the back of the hostel (where they'd be woken up by Song Thrushes, Jackdaws and Blackbirds, as opposed to House Sparrows... )
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Dean
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 17:59 |
fandango wrote:
NaturalScience wrote:
Find out what's cheaper, disposing of the shreds or sending the empty box with shreds back to the vendor.
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the cheapest option would be to take them down to the local bottle bank, in your Sainsbury's car park, at 7am before anyone's looking...
that's what I do... |
I think Pat's inadvertently hit on the ideal solution - I return a non-functioning optical mouse in the same box they sent the PC in - of course I'll have to add extra shredded paper to account for the difference in volume betwixt mouse and PC/Monitor/keyboard and they'll pay for the shipping charges under their returns policy ... Result!
fandango wrote:
chopper wrote:
I can believe that Jared. When these people complained, what did they expect you to do about it exactly? Shoot the birds? I'm off camping again this weekend so I know I'm going to be woken up at 4am again on Saturday and Sunday morning.
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apparently, they should have been given advance warning, and given the option of sleeping in one iof the bedrooms around the back of the hostel (where they'd be woken up by Song Thrushes, Jackdaws and Blackbirds, as opposed to House Sparrows... )
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Get a pair of Peacocks - that'll sort them out
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Dean
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Posted: July 04 2008 at 12:25 |
This week the SEB are digging up our road, which means:
A) I'm living in the limbo between the road works' traffic lights, making driving out each day a game of Russian roulette with lorries (okay I exaggerate - I have a 50:50 chance of meeting a lorry head-on - so I guess that's betting on Red or Black only)
B) whatever passed for a verge in front of my hedge-row is now completely destroyed and currently has a caterpillar-tracked digger parked on it
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C) I arrived home today to find they've dug a three-foot trench across the end of my drive and I've had to park half a mile away.
And is any of this 'inconvenience' for my benefit? Will it improve the electricity supply to my home? Will it guarantee no more balckouts in the middle of winter?
No.
It's so an obnoxious fat-a**ed property developer (who lives 50 miles away and cares not one jot for the quality of our village life etc etc blah blah blah...) can build 17 'luxury executive' houses where two average bungalow's once stood.
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Jim Garten
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Posted: July 04 2008 at 12:29 |
But Dean - think of the quality of life the residents of the newly built houses (which will no doubt be constructed of the usual cheese/cardboard mix they use nowadays with all the architectural merit on a 1940's Anderson shelter) will bring to village living on the one weekend in four they actually reside there.
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Dean
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Posted: July 04 2008 at 14:04 |
Ooo! I can't wait for them to arrive in their Chelsea tractors asking where the nearest Waitrose is. (Can't imagine them asking for the nearest Post Office - but if they did I think it's in Berkshire, or maybe Middlesex, unless the Isle of Wight still has one that the Royal Mail has forgotten to close)
... I went along to a couple of the planning meetings - what a bloody farce - I came away with bruised ribs from where Debs kept digging me with her elbows every time I giggled or sniggered. Imagine a cross between an Ealing Comedy and Ripping Yarns with the town council from Stoneybridge... and that wouldn't be half as ridiculous or comical as UK planning committees in full flow.
Each side is allowed 90 seconds to state their case: the developer employed a wizz-kid female solicitor in a short skirt, we had a neighbour who'd never spoken in public before and the parish council put forward a slow-speaking old chap in tweads who umm'ed and arr'ed for 80 seconds, mumbled something about street lighting then sat down. None of the Committee members understood the vote and after three attempts still got it wrong ... by some kind of perverse reverse logic you have to vote for the proposal if you are against it, so you can then add lots of impossible provisos that the developer hasn't a hope of meeting if you want to block an application - voting against it makes it very easy for him to win the re-application, which he eventually did.
No wonder the country's in a mess if that is how it's run, but at least from seeing it first hand I cannot see how it could ever be corrupt - they just aren't smart enough to be corrupted
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