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riggsley
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Posted: May 09 2008 at 01:01 |
I think it is a cross between Bruford and Peart... I went with Peart, but it wasn't easy.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: May 09 2008 at 01:16 |
I thuink I voted here before for other, but it's too slow to check it page by page
In this moment I would go with others like Phil Ehart and Manu Katche, I'd go more with the technique rather tthan with strenght, and both are impecable..
Non Prog.....Fergal Lawler (Cranberries), in this case is pure strenght, that's what that bend requires.
Iván
EDIT: I almost forgot Zac Starkey, Rigo's kid is a hell of a drummer, I seen him twice with The Who, the strenght (and school) of Keith Moon, but much more technical, outstanding.
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: May 09 2008 at 03:54 |
Bruford wins again.... All hail the all time champion of drummer polls!
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Atavachron
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Posted: May 09 2008 at 04:02 |
most important? hmm.. Carl Palmer
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Greta007
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Posted: May 18 2008 at 05:26 |
Terry Bozzio - awesome drummer. A virtuoso with feel. I saw him with Uncle Frank in 1974 on the Bongo Fury tour. Just amazing. His work on Black Page set a benchmark for tightness.
Bill Bruford - always gets my vote. His influence is huge - the snare drum sound, his use of different sounds, his imagination and variety, his crispness and use of space. His influence in working with odd time signatures, before some of these other fellas got out of short pants, makes him akin to rock's Joe Morello. His work on Starless was a marvel - he did everything!
Clive Bunker - a really solid play with a a nice 'organic' feel. He won't win any contests but who cares - I don't think we can sneeze at his replacement, the wonderful Barriemore Barlow, either.
Danny Carey - a monster player, awesome to watch this giant of a man manage to combine brutality, technique and precision. Some nice ideas too. Always rates.
Billy Cobham - I love Billy, although he's prog-jazz, not prog rock. I though he tended to overplay at times on his solo records, with his trademark flowing fill down the toms being a bit of a cliche, but it was influential. His spirit, precision and technique with Mahavishnu were mind-blowing - his high point IMO. His replacement, Michael Waldon was a class above too.
Phil Collins - his famous fill in Something in the Air made its mark on many a drummer (including moi). His work with Brand X was top drawer stuff. I loved his clever sneakiness with Brian Eno (eg. Another Green World album) too.
Virgil Donati - um gosh, I'm Australian and I don't know his work. I expect that if he's on this list he must be pretty awesome.
Carl Palmer - his influence was the classical influence (good) and to inspire drummers to fit as many notes as possible into a song (bad). I think he overdid it with some of ELP's simpler stuff which meant a looser, less clean feel than would have been ideal, but I loved him when ELP was in full flight.
Neil Peart - sort of like a prog version of a session player, always providing a solid, technically correct beat. Rush has too many AOR tendencies (like later UK and Asia) for my liking but the guy sure knows his way around 120 drums and 150 cymbals. I like his structured and musical approach to his solo too. A much better soloist than, say, Bill B, but less imaginative in the context of the songs.
Mike Portnoy - consummate technique but his playing and Dream Theatre's music doesn't touch me. You've gotta hand it to him, though, for taking Michael Giles's groundbreaking ultra-tight drumming in Schizoid Man (and Uncle Franks scary ensemble playing) to another level.
Other... Pierre Moerlen - his peerless fluid feel, his ideas and musicality are so brilliant. Try Cat in Clark's Shoes or Chandra on the Shamal album or Expresso on Gazeuse!. His passing really saddened me :(
Vinnie Collaiuta - the ultimate technique. Not even Billy Cobham or Dave Weckl are as freakish, but seeing the three of them, along with young Portnoy, Palmer and (old) Phil would make one helluva circus act - acrobats on drums!
Pierre van der Linden (Focus) - scary player with a wealth of ideas. His replacement, Collin Allen, wasn't spectacular but his work on Hamburger Concerto is a joy to hear.
Prairie Prince (The Tubes) - very hot and tight drummer before the band sadly descended into bland AOR and pop to pay the bills.
Roger Wilcox (Utopia) - a bit of a rock thumper in the mould of Queen's impressive Roger Taylor, but his playing on Steve Hillage's L, especially Lunar Musick Suite, was fantastic. Loved his giant drum sound with Todd Rundgren's production.
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Okocha
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Posted: May 20 2008 at 18:31 |
Bruford forever!!!
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markosherrera
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Posted: June 19 2008 at 22:29 |
Bruford ,Dennis Chambers
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Sacred 22
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Posted: June 20 2008 at 01:35 |
In the Prog Rock genre I have to go with Bruford of course. There are lots of great prog drummers though. Bozio and Palmer both come to mind amoung others, but I think you really have to tip your hat to Buddy Rich because he influenced so many of todays greats.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: June 20 2008 at 15:05 |
For me, Virgal Donati, as I'm looking at this from a modern perspective. Ridiculously good chops. Portnoy and Carey are equal 2nd for me.
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Hawkwise
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Posted: June 20 2008 at 15:30 |
How about Nick Mason on Pompeii , bloody awwwwwwwsome love watching him play in that
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Treasure
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Posted: June 20 2008 at 15:32 |
^^But no one voted for Virgil Donati >_>
Yeah Bil Bruford for me, he is just a genius in every way. I got the privilege to see a drum clinic of his last year. I have a picture of me and him somewhere on my PC, I'll look for it.
He was really funny, making fun of Jaime Muir and stuff. Cool guy.
Edited by Treasure - June 20 2008 at 15:33
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: June 20 2008 at 15:37 |
Woops, forgot to cast my vote earlier I picked Virgil of course.
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Hawkwise
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Posted: June 20 2008 at 15:43 |
had to Vote Other as Pierre Moerlen not on the list
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PinkPangolin
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Posted: June 20 2008 at 18:20 |
I guess Phil Collins was the best then...
...Now, Gavin Harrison of Porcupine Tree (and now King Crimson as well) - such virtuousity! Just watch him on "Hatesong" on the "Arriving Somewhere..." DVD - Out of this World!!
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The Quiet One
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Posted: June 20 2008 at 18:25 |
Important or more innovating? Bruford
Best? Bozzio, he can also imitate the Devil and that's some extra bonus, right?
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Jeremy Bender
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 17:32 |
Then: Bill Bruford
Now: Gavin Harrison
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ten years after
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Posted: June 21 2008 at 20:54 |
I voted "other" with Ginger Baker in mind. He didn't play in what would now be termed a progressive band (though Cream, in particular, were described as progressive at the time) but his style was certainly progressive and inspired other rock (as opposed to Jazz) drummers to treat the instrument as a lead instrument rather than as a time keeper.
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Traveller Grey
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Posted: June 24 2008 at 15:39 |
For his overall career I would have to say Bruford. Though Christian Vander deserves a mention as well.
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