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sleeper
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 09 2005 Location: Entropia Status: Offline Points: 16449 |
Posted: June 07 2008 at 12:04 | |
I've heard the song thats on his PA page, makes me salivate at the prospect of getting it, I just never seem to remember that when it comes to ordering albums. |
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Pnoom!
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 02 2006 Location: OH Status: Offline Points: 4981 |
Posted: June 07 2008 at 12:17 | |
Eptaceros is the second best track on the album, IMO. Kandu vs. Corky (Horrorca) is my favorite. It's somewhat similar to Gemini Becoming the Tripod, only about five times as intense. Then "The Lugubrious Library Loft" is a really beautiful piece. "Brown Light Upon Us" is the weakest, but still pretty good (just a bit overlong). A bit too ambient to last for 18 minutes, but awesome nonetheless.
I'd say Choirs>Dowsing>Bath>Library Loft>Blue Lambency Downward>Leaving Your Body Map>Sixty Metonymies Also, have you read the about the different compositional approaches to each of the tracks? If not: http://www.kayodot.net/toby/libraryloft.html# Click on the "In the L..L..Library Loft (bottomish of the screen) and you can read about each track. It's really cool. |
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The T
Special Collaborator Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
Posted: June 07 2008 at 18:47 | |
Please... how could I? My favorite review ever will never be touched.. i just added a disclaimer to comment about some errors I made about genres...... The rating will remain as the impression is the same: a kind of mediocre-decent thing going down the drain in the longest 20 25+ minutes to end a record since recordings were created.... But BLD is quite the opposite and I enjoyed it, again, in a completye different way than i "enjoyed" DAWCT....
I still think Pnoom has stolen my hallucinogens, though... I mean... development? In _on limpid form?
If i burn at the stake, I'll wear my DT shirt to the event... But many people will burn with me...
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Pnoom!
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Posted: June 07 2008 at 18:52 | |
Over the course of OLF (the last twelve minutes), the most obvious change is the introduction of different rhythms that provide a driving beat. It's slow development because that's the type of development the song needed, but it ends in a vastly different place than where it began.
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Rocktopus
Forum Senior Member Joined: March 02 2006 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 4202 |
Posted: June 08 2008 at 16:09 | |
I've ignored Kayo Dot uptil now. Since it was strongly reccomended to me, I gave their latest a chance. And after three spins it sounds fantastic. And no metal there at all.
From the last time I tried them, I remember them as just another band, slightly more sophisticated than most postrock/progmetal or something. But nothing memorable enough to investigate further. I must have disliked the streams here. Plus a lot of people that likes a lot of bands I hate seems to love them. Seems like most of you don't consider Blue Lambency Downward their best effort, but are the two previous albums harder and more riffbased? As in more like the band I thought Kayo Dot were, than what I hear when I play the one I got? |
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heyitsthatguy
Forum Senior Member Joined: April 17 2006 Location: Washington Hgts Status: Offline Points: 10094 |
Posted: June 08 2008 at 18:01 | |
they never really were riff based
their precursor, maudlin of the Well is though so maybe investigate that |
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Rocktopus
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Posted: June 08 2008 at 18:25 | |
I don't want them to be riffbased, I've just misunderstood what Kayo Dot is about (and pleasantly surprised).
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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
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Dim
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 17 2007 Location: Austin TX Status: Offline Points: 6890 |
Posted: June 08 2008 at 19:10 | |
No Kayo Dot isnt very riff based, although all Kayo Dot is centered around the electric guitar.
Edited by schizoid_man77 - June 09 2008 at 00:00 |
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Figglesnout
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 26 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1455 |
Posted: June 08 2008 at 21:55 | |
I second checking out maudlin if you can handle occasional death vocals.
I have grown recently to like them even more than Kayo Dot--and Kayo Dot was my favorite band too! |
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Dim
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 17 2007 Location: Austin TX Status: Offline Points: 6890 |
Posted: June 09 2008 at 00:01 | |
Maudlin is my second favorite band to exist! I recomend them enough to a person with an open mind.
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sleeper
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 09 2005 Location: Entropia Status: Offline Points: 16449 |
Posted: June 09 2008 at 10:33 | |
Theres certainly more metal in their first two albums, particularly Choirs ofthe Eye, and it drops down a notch on each album so their is vertually none on BLD. Considering what you've said, I'd try Dowsing Anamone with Copper Tongue next and if you like the third track, Aurora on an Asylumn Wall, then give Choirs of the Eye a try. |
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Pnoom!
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Posted: June 13 2008 at 18:42 | |
In all of their songs, they have exactly one riff, at the end of "The Manifold Curiosity" The rest is like modern composition classical with some distortion and awesome layering. Choirs of the Eye is their best, but also their most distorted (but not really metal) |
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explodingjosh
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Posted: June 13 2008 at 19:34 | |
Do they use time signatures at all? Tempo? Meter?
I've recently been getting into this band, and I've been listening with a great sense of awe for what I'm hearing. They make an open mind very happy by challenging it even more. |
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Pnoom!
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 02 2006 Location: OH Status: Offline Points: 4981 |
Posted: June 13 2008 at 19:54 | |
I would guess yes to all three, though I don't know enough about music to know much more than that it sounds awesome.
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Figglesnout
Forum Senior Member Joined: November 26 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1455 |
Posted: June 13 2008 at 23:16 | |
They do, obviously, but typically, because of their slower tempos, a lot of their songs come off as sounding meterless, which gives the music a more "free" feeling. Lots of expression too, which confuses things as well. Good stuff. |
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Dim
Prog Reviewer Joined: April 17 2007 Location: Austin TX Status: Offline Points: 6890 |
Posted: June 14 2008 at 01:26 | |
If you're asking if they get very technical, no not at all. KV is right though, due to the slower tempo's and longer improv sections the music is very free and meterless feeling.
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Henry Plainview
Forum Senior Member Joined: May 26 2008 Location: Declined Status: Offline Points: 16715 |
Posted: June 14 2008 at 01:38 | |
I don't think it's possible to play music together without those things. Toby Driver's solo album is free on his website. Edited by Henry Plainview - June 14 2008 at 01:39 |
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Pnoom!
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 02 2006 Location: OH Status: Offline Points: 4981 |
Posted: June 14 2008 at 01:52 | |
Not anymore, last I checked. EDIT: just checked again; only the first track is available. Edited by Pnoom! - June 14 2008 at 01:52 |
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: June 14 2008 at 02:39 | |
Oh, that sucks. I downloaded it a while ago, but I deleted it because I didn't like it at all. Oh well, there wasn't much chance of me liking it ever, anyway. Kayo Dot is about as minimalist as I can handle, and even they push it too hard sometimes. I'm looking at you, ___On Limpid Form...
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Pnoom!
Forum Senior Member Joined: September 02 2006 Location: OH Status: Offline Points: 4981 |
Posted: June 14 2008 at 02:52 | |
I hated Library Loft at first, too. Now it's vying for second favorite driver album (switches around with Dowsing every so often).
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