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Vince 
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 Posted: June 06 2008 at 10:08 |
 The Rock wrote:
I know that may sound redundant but for great bargains on used Lps,CDs ect try your local run of garage sales.I was able to snatch a few near-mint albums from local artists(I'm from Montreal) for mere pennies in the last few years.
Remember,those who hold these garage sales badly want to get rid of everything so your bargaining power increases drastically.Not only that,most of those sellers aren't familliar with the true value of the stuff they are selling.They think that vinyls are out dated and that nobody wants them...  ..easy preys! |
Thus the expression: one's junk is another's treasure! 
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"The mind is like a parachute: it doesn't work until it's opened"... Frank Zappa.
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Vince
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Posted: June 06 2008 at 10:39 |
I miss the time when vinyl (and cassettes, but I prefered vinyl) was the main music medium. The entire ritual surrounding it, starting from going to the music record store. Sometimes it was to get a particular album, sometimes it was just to browse though and find something you've been wanting, or just try out something new. Also going to the used record store was fun, browsing the 'new arrivals' (the only section I needed to browse, because I went there quite often, and I already went through the rest priorly), finding a few gems (I was always picky on the condition of the album though). Then coming back home, putting on the record meticulously, and sitting down to enjoy it, and enjoying the album's art. Of course, back then I had the time to do all this, so the transition to CD's and MP3's was convenient for me (the main time I enjoy music nowadays is in the bus to and from work, so MP3 players are godsent for me - my entire music collection (well not quite, but lots of it) in the palm of my hand!).
I guess I could say I used to be a vinyl junkie, but I don't think I've ever had more than 400-500 vinyls. Since then, I got rid of a lot of them  , and only kept about 150 of my favorite and most prized. As far as quality of vinyls compared to CD's, I used to think the vinyl surpassed the CD's, but I find it's not as obvious nowadays. Vinyl was better back when CD's started, and they put out CD's as straight transfers, and they DID sound worse than the vinyl. But when they started remastering albums, from the original tapes and all, then it changed big time. And new recordings, where almost everything is done digitally, well it sounds pretty good to my ears on CD's.
For prized posessions, well I prize all my prog LP's, but here are a few that come to mind that stand out:
Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick (with the fold-out paper) (I also have the Living In The Past, but I bought used and the condition is not too good for my taste)
Rush - Hemispheres (on red vinyl)
The Beatles - The White Album (on white vinyl, but not the rarest version)
Soundgarden- Superunknown (double clear vinyl- this is the very last LP I bought as new)
Triumph - Rock & Roll Machine (on silver vinyl)
Supertramp - Crisis? What Crisis? (Audiophile version)
Yes - Close to the Edge
Anderson Bruford Wakeman & Howe - ABWH
Robert Plant - Manic Nirvana
Steely Dan - Aja
Queensr˙che - Operation Mindcrime
Pink Floyd - Animals, A Momentry Lapse of Reason
ELP - Tarkus
Kansas - Leftoverture, Point of Know Return
I had a few other valuables that I sold on e-Bay because we were in need of money  , but fortunately they were not prog stuff. The ones I listed are not necessarily very rare LP's, but where I live they were hard to find. And all the new LP's that are release nowadays, I'd have to import myself, so they are much too expensive unfortunately (ex: I would have loved to get Ayreon's latest, or Porcupine Tree's). For about the same amount today, I can buy 3 CD's or 1 LP... Obviously I will buy 3 CD's...
I don't listen to vinyl anymore though, as I don't have the necessary set up for it, and I either have them on CD or MP3 now. I'd be actually willing to sell my small collection, would I find a buyer that knows the value. I don't want to get $25 for the whole thing, if you know what I mean...
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"The mind is like a parachute: it doesn't work until it's opened"... Frank Zappa.
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song_of_copper
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Posted: June 06 2008 at 16:04 |
Aww, I miss second hand record shopping. When I was a city-dweller I used to spend Saturday mornings trawling my favourite record shops and going to record fairs... a flutter of eyelash was a great haggling tool! I only have a small collection of LPs and nothing very rare or expensive. And right now I have nothing to play them on. But there is still sight, touch and smell to appreciate them with!  My favourites are my Zappa/Mothers albums (nothing like putting on 'Freak Out!' and dancing around the living room...), and my Residents albums - which are all in excellent condition, making me wonder whether the original owners played 'em more than once! I guess that stuff isn't everyone's cup of tea... The only slightly unusual thing I have is 'Miniatures', in which all kinds of people contribute songs of 60 seconds or fewer. It's got all sorts of people on it from Robert Wyatt to Fred Frith to Michael Nyman to Ivor Cutler to Etron Fou Leloublan! 
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: June 06 2008 at 20:25 |
You know, what I miss more than second hand LP shopping is second hand CD shopping. It seems to have gone downhill in my area. Used to be several conveniently located places. Now there's only one reasonably close by and their selection isn't too good. May need to seek out new stores further away. The LP was a nice medium in it's time, and if they did a really good job on the package, those are the keepers, a few of which I'm glad to have. Not to mention a small collection of autographed ones. But the new devices have expanded the possibilities for enjoying music. Not to mention being able to override the music that is often pumped in to public places. Sometimes the head is no defense against this assault.  And lawnmower noise, etc. 
Edited by Slartibartfast - June 13 2008 at 05:51
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Rubidium
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Posted: June 06 2008 at 23:57 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
You know, what I miss more than second hand LP shopping is second hand CD shopping. It seems to have gone downhill in my area. Used to be several conveniently located places. Now there's only one reasonably close by and their selection isn't too good. May need to seek out new stores further away.
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There are practically no places here in the Clearwater area to buy used CDs. A few months ago I looked in the phone book for some places, but could only find one and that was half an hour away (there used to be tons). I went there and it was closed. The sign in the window said that it opened at "noonish". When I was there it was noonish thirty. I guess that's what happens when you sell music and incense in the same building. When I lived in Columbus you could walk down the street and pass four record stores (only three of which sold records). That's the advantage of living near a university...
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ClassicRocker
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Posted: June 07 2008 at 21:23 |
Slartibartfast wrote:
ClassicRocker wrote:
Genesis Seconds Out (near-perfect condition)
Jon Anderson Olias (near-perfect condition)
Triumvirat Illusions
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I've got those three, too. Olias is one of the best ones of those to have in LP format with the "booklet" built in to the cover. My CD version reproduced it, but you need a magnifying glass to look at it.
I also have a Living In The Past with a thick fancy cardboard cover and inner booklet.
The first prog albums in my collection were Rick Wakeman's Journey To The Center Of The Earth and The Myths and Legends of King Arthur. Both with excellent "booklets".
There's a few more prized ones I'll be keeping.
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Yeah, I adore my copy of Olias. It really showed how high-quality and intricate something as simple as a "case" for music could be. Living In The Past also has a great cover/booklet. I've had several opportunities to buy it... but every copy I find is also like every copy of the Beatles' Let It Be in that the condition is completely awful... these albums are literally falling apart in the used record shops! I can't say I've seen those Wakeman "booklets", but I do wish he had done that for the Six Wives Of Henry VIII. A&M could have done that record up beyond the "standard" gatefold!
Slartibartfast wrote:
Don't forget the original Brain Salad Surgery
Cover, it opened up in the middle to reveal the rest of the lady's face
behind the skull.
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I would nearly kill for a NM copy of that one! Somehow the mid-90s Rhino CD reissue with the "holographic" (reflecty?) cover just doesn't do it justice.
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Kimoi
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Posted: June 08 2008 at 03:08 |
'BSS' isn't even slightly rare, so no need to kill anyone heh!
A couple more centre-openers:
Hawkwind 'In Search Of Space'. Even with the 'Log Book' (or unreadable hippy drivel printed on one-ply bog-roll) this is not hard to find. Beautiful sleeve and a fantastic LP
Ash Ra Tempel '1st'. Rarer than the above but do not go around spending big peanuts on it. Sellers always use the 'everybody is after it so don't hang around' nental approach to over price. cf eBay. No more than 40 dollars for this one. I have 2 copies of it
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Kimoi
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Posted: June 08 2008 at 03:16 |
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*mental approach*
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ClassicRocker
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Posted: June 08 2008 at 10:34 |
Kimoi wrote:
'BSS' isn't even slightly rare, so no need to kill anyone heh! |
 Think I may have gone a little far? Sure it's not rare, but I don't do a lot of online shopping, so to find one in excellent condition around here would be a miracle. And the rarity of an album doesn't mean I'll prize it any less (nor necessarily any more)
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: June 08 2008 at 11:02 |
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BSS is quite rare where I live ... the only ELP album that I see frequently in second hand stores is Pictures at an Exhibition.
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Kimoi
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Posted: June 08 2008 at 11:11 |
I used to literally fall over mint copies of BSS in London. Even moreso here
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Statutory-Mike
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Posted: June 08 2008 at 11:45 |
I've only got a couple Vinlys that I bought from a couple of stores and garage sales (When my dad was yonger he threw his away after he got them all on cd  )
I"ve got:
King Crimson - In the Court..
Yes - Yessongs
Rush - 2112
AC/DC - If you want blood, and Let there Be Rock
Black Sabbath - Paranoid
Cheap Trick - Live at Buddokan
Journey - Look into the Future
There's still a lot I want.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: June 08 2008 at 12:16 |
Kimoi wrote:
'BSS' isn't even slightly rare, so no need to kill anyone heh! |
No, it's absolutely necessary that you find someone who has this album, kill them, and eat their brains.  Oh yeah, this is important, stumble away with their copy of the album. Never mind, this is vinyl junkies, sorry, I thought it was vinyl zombies.
Edited by Slartibartfast - June 08 2008 at 12:17
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Hawkwise
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Posted: June 08 2008 at 12:52 |
Alien Stole my Vinyl 
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: June 08 2008 at 13:23 |
Well, now that explains everything.
Edited by Slartibartfast - June 13 2008 at 05:52
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b_olariu
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Posted: June 10 2008 at 02:46 |
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I like to listen music on vinyl. Today is to easy to have something you want on CD, anybody can buy or copy a Cd, but to have something real intristing and priceless among your collection must be some vinyls. I'm not saying that on Cd is bad contrary it's sound better and it's easy to listen to, but sometimes i prefer to listen like i was in the '70's.
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chrisk
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Posted: June 12 2008 at 16:57 |
Have never liked CD's and even less so Mp3's, although they have their uses. So it's vinyl for me every time if I can get it and as you all know the good stuff is getting harder to find.
Luckily for me I have been collecting for over 40 years - yes I'm that old! and so was able to buy what is considered the classic albums when they were issued and, more importantly, have kept and play them regularly.
I collect over a wide spectrum of music styles, but my favourites are prog and krautrock with some blues thrown in for good measure.
I noticed a debate on King Crimson recently - I have a copy of 'In the court.......' and like a few tracks, but on the whole feel it's rather pretentious and overproduced. I class Yes in the same boat and think that lesser british bands such as Caravan, Quatermass and Saturnalia (from the 70's) have a more spontaneous feel.
And then there's the Germans: If any nation can claim to produce quality music when the world was suffering 'Glamrock', it has to be them. They produced some of the finest bands of the 70's, which on the whole escaped the general public in Britain and the US ( apart from Kraftwerk). Such a wide variety, from experimental/improvisation bands to pop, they tried it all with flair and style.
The americans also produced some great bands - Kansas, Quicksilver Messenger Service, REO Speedwagen etc to name a few and most of these band greatest albums were originally released on vinyl.
Then along come CD and hey presto it's remaster time, spoiling the sound that some of these bands spent weeks perfecting- Jimmy Page has made a living doing precisely this!
So to sum up this rant. For me vinyl will always be king. If you have good equipment and have looked after your albums (which hopefully were pressed on good quality vinyl and of a good weight) ther is no finer musical experience than listening to records. Their presentation and the ritual of playing them is a pleasure to savour. LONG LIVE VINYL
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Hawkwise
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Posted: June 12 2008 at 20:12 |
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Mikerinos
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Posted: June 12 2008 at 20:55 |
I got Gentle Giant's Octopus on the Repertoire limited edition mini-LP CD today to replace a download (sounds great by the way). I really think the mini-LP should replace the jewel case, it's a much better format for convenience and aesthetically; plus it's better for the environment since jewel cases are not biodegradable. Even digpaks would be good, I never have problems with them but CD cases crack all the time.  Haven't bought too many vinyls recently, but I did pick up Fleet Foxes debut. A bit expensive but I loved their EP so it should be worth it, good indie psych folk stuff.
Edited by Bluesaga - June 12 2008 at 20:58
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: June 13 2008 at 05:53 |
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