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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2008 at 18:35
Well I haven't been focusing on my tapping too much lately, and it's gotten worse. Now that I'm up to Petrucci's solo in "Ytse Jam" i've got to work on the tapping.
 
We finished our first song, it's alright. I've started working on our 2nd by myself last night and I think it's already better, I'm about 5 mins into it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2008 at 11:24
Petrucci tapping work was never particularly advanced, but as long as it sounds good I can dig it. The thing I hate about tapping is that it's so easy to get stuck into the bog standard one finger on the fretting hand stuff, something I'm trying to break free of lately.
Maybe I'll give Ytse Jam a go one day too, but I don't even have that album yet, lol, I've got studio every album except WDADU. I've heard it many times, but personally I only really liked about 3 songs off it, Ytse Jam being one of the good songs of course.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2008 at 19:25
Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Petrucci tapping work was never particularly advanced, but as long as it sounds good I can dig it. The thing I hate about tapping is that it's so easy to get stuck into the bog standard one finger on the fretting hand stuff, something I'm trying to break free of lately.
Maybe I'll give Ytse Jam a go one day too, but I don't even have that album yet, lol, I've got studio every album except WDADU. I've heard it many times, but personally I only really liked about 3 songs off it, Ytse Jam being one of the good songs of course.
 
Let me guess...the other two are afterlife and only a matter of time? If that's true, that's my preferance too, I can't really stand the old singers voice LOL, but the music to those three songs is fantastic, thank god I don't have to worry about his voice on Ytse Jam, I probably wouldn't have the patience to finish it LOL.
 
I am very happy to say that I got a new compaq laptop a few days ago and although it is currently not hooked up to the internet, I am using it to organize tablature for songs I'm writing, I can also record riffs for memorization when I come up with them on the recorder thing.
 
I've finished our 2nd song and am writing my solo (a clean solo) for the 1st song, and for the 2nd song my solo is over a riff that's a bit more heavy.
 
We should hopefully have those 2 on our myspace in the next 2-3 weeks, although it may take longer due to the fact that finals are right around the corner.
 
As for me practicing on my own, I'm still working on Ytse Jam, soloing techniques/methods, writing on my own as well as writing with my band, and examples from my John Petrucci instructional book/cd "Wild Stringdom"
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2008 at 00:47
I didn't mind Charlie Dominici's voice at all to be honest, it was the lack of good song writing on those other songs that didn't cut it for me.
It's cool you got a new computer, finally man, now once you get it hooked up to the 'net, you gotta get that post count soaring like mineThumbs%20Up LOL
Well I'm still trying to get my wide vibrato happening good again, by practicing the second guitar solo from Flight Of Icarus (Iron Maiden, Adrian Smith's solo more specifically), and just general Marty Friedman stuff is a good vibrato work out too.
Once I get some recording programs, I'll start recording tooThumbs%20Up


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 05 2008 at 03:03
I'm currently teaching myself Tico Tico http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=To09Km0y8ic Not this version, but that's the song. Something a bit faster at this point.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2008 at 23:32
Haven't played all day due to cousins graduation party. I am going to play before bed for about an hour right now though, I'd play longer if I didn't have to get up at 5 30 in the effing morning to get to the ice rink for a 7 am practice. Sleepy
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 09 2008 at 12:12
Well, I've started recording stuff, just semi improvised post metal type stuff, but the Behringer V-Amp 2  sounds pretty good direct recorded, far better than I expected.
I've been spending time on vibrato again, and man, my leads are starting to get that scream and wailing to them again. I've got some insane calluses on my index finger from vibrato, but it's paid off for sure.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 09 2008 at 23:14
I've got so much schoolwork for the next two weeks because of finals that I'm only getting in about 2 hours a day for now. I will return to my regular 5 or 6 when the summer comes (hell, I might rack up even more with band practice, and theory studies) But for now I'm still working on the same old thing, Ytse Jam (still) and writing originals, as well as working on soloing technique. Also, I'm still in search of a new amplifier, I've also got to get the money for it too Disapprove. Oh well, considering my band has decided to strictly work on writing and recording this summer I'm not in that much of a need for an amplifier quite yet...the studio we're recording at (good friend of ours) has a variety of amplifiers, as far as recording is concerned.
 
I'm very tired right now...I'm going to bed Sleepy
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2008 at 07:57
Dude, A Behringer V-amp 2 like mine can be costs literally half the price of a Line 6 Pod 2.0 and the scary thing is most of the high gain amp models (which would be the ones you would need anyway) sounds pretty sound. If you have any sort of keyboard amp, a stereo hi fi system, PA system or whatever, you can plug it into that any it will sound good man.
But just keep bearing in mind the Boss GT8 can be going for cheap too if you look.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2008 at 16:06
Yeah, I've been looking at all the Line 6 POD models for a while, they get really good reviews. I did read about an all valve amp in guitar world, Bugera was the name I think, that's supposed to be really good. I'm still looking though, and I still need to try some stuff out at Guitar Center.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2008 at 19:33
Bugera, I know that brand, they are owned by Behringer. They are essentially making reverse engineered Peavey XXX and Peavey 5150 copies, although I've been told the 5150 copy has a far better clean channel than the real deal 5150, which doesn't clean up well. There has been reports of reliability issues several months back, but they might have been ironed out by now, and the amp does need some time to prove whether it becomes legendary or totally flops. Personally, I'm a big fan of the Soldano SLO-100 type lead tone (I use the SLO-100 emulation on my V-Amp2) and also the 5150 high gain sound, which is an amp that you can find modelled on the Boss GT amp modellers and the POD XTs/X3s.
Those tones are smoother than say, the Mesa Boogie Rectifier sound (which you'll hear on Train Of Thought) and while they don't sound as good for rhythm metal guitar, the lead sound cuts better and favors legato licks more, so I compromise a little and go for the Soldano/5150 sound instead, but make no mistake they can sound brutal on rhythm too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2008 at 23:55
And you get that Soldano sound out of your Behringer V-amp 2?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2008 at 10:45
^Well it doesn't sound 100 percent like one, but nor did any other modelling unit new at the time could either, but whether or not it's a 100 per cent accurate emulation is not relevant to me, as long as the tone works and is good, that's what matters.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2008 at 15:44
Well yeah I understand that, I'm just wondering if I get the Line 6 POD I'll be getting all that's on the behringer v amp and more. But the extra stuff that's on the POD might be useless and I'll never touch those models or effects...I've got to try them both out at Guitar Center.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2008 at 16:09
It depends. If you go for the X3 or even the X3Live, those are USB 2.0 capable, and can be used for direct recording with ease and it will definitely sound better than my V-Amp2, but that said the V-amp is 1/6th of the price of the X3Live, but if I had the money I would buy the X3Live straight away.
The XT, the older model, even that has more features than my V-amp2.
Basically, don't bother with the POD 2.0, the V-Amp 2 is half the price and sounds better in some departments like the lead guitar type tones for example.
You never mentioned your budget, so I can't tell you whether the XT, X3 or V-amp 2 is good for you.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2008 at 21:32
Well I've got no job, so I have to sell things for money most of the time, which means that the V-amp 2 would probably be what I'm looking for, and then I can save my money and get the X3live. I however still need some form of amplifier Unhappy, I'm going to need to find a job.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2008 at 12:22
Bear in mind, with the V-Amp 2, it's still very easy to record with, all you need to do is plug it directly into your line in, and just use any program that records pretty much.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 16 2008 at 22:28

Great, just another thing added to my wishlist, I'll be saving up for sure Big%20smile.

As far as my playing goes, I haven't been able to get that much in due to finals Cry, after this week though, I'll be pretty much locked in my basement : guitar, computer (w/ music), bench, tv, hockey sticks/net/skates/pucks. The only time I will come up is for eating, band practice, and hockey games/practices, and occassionally seeing my (soon to be) gf Big%20smile. Oh, and I'll also need to leave to see Rush, and a couple other shows.
 
Summer is looking pretty good, and my playing will deffinitley improve tons.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 18 2008 at 07:00
Sounds like some good times man. I've been single for ages, although me being me I'm one of those guys that on those odd nights gets action I didn't even see coming.
Well, that intense vibrato practice I was doing, seriously paid off. I can now go from frantic medium size vibrato to a wider Dimebag-esque kinda vibrato, so I'm happy about that. I'm imagining by the end of the year, my vibrato will be pretty damn good.
To me, being able to slam down serious bending technique and vibrato combined with alternate picking, sweep picking, tapping, legato etc, is what separates the n00by out of tune shredders from the guys that add real emotion in their fast licks, like Steve Vai, Satch and Petrucci, so do your best to work on bending and vibrato. Otherwise you'll end up with a Kirk Hammett vibratoLOL

I know this guy, he is in a local metal band, he can sweep pick like a monster, but that's it. He never learnt how to bend properly, his vibrato hurts your ears, and his legato, alternate and tapping chops are sloppy are slush. Listening to the guy play really makes you realise the importance of the small details in the solo.

Oh and BTW, can I suggest for home use, you look into getting a keyboard amp to go with the V-Amp 2.
A 45 watt Behringer keyboard amp, will be really cheap, and will probably be loud enough to rehearse with too.
I don't even use a guitar amp for my V-Amp 2, and it works fine, If you're wondering why I don't use a guitar amp, I explain the reasons why PA systems/Keyboard amps actually sound better with modelling units in this thread here: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=48704.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 19 2008 at 22:31
I'm seriously looking into getting a keyboard amp and a modeling unit, right now due to my budget, it's looking like the V-Amp 2.
 
Due to my final, my 2 practices and game. I haven't played AT ALL today. I know it's terrible for my playing but I'm just to tired. I don't know why I have the energy to post on the form though Confused odd
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