Are you a "progressive" listener?

NaturalScience wrote: CCVP wrote: The T wrote:   So I better start a fund for the children.. not for their college but for their "prog education"... more and more cd's! i will go a bit off topic here, but i have ever had a doubt and this may be the opportunity to kill the doubt: why you must have a fund to have college education on "1st world countries"? Is good college education only available in private colleges and is it so expensive that you have to save your money for decades so your children would be able to have that education? College education in the United States is unbelievably expensive, to the point of lunacy.  Public (state) universities are less expensive but still very costly.  To offset these gargantuan costs, young people need to borrow an incredible amount of money such that the need for a good paying job after graduation is all the more pressing, as you are now in a lot of debt.  And if you want to go to medical school, law school, or some other graduate studies...you could have education debt until you're 50 years old!  Young parents like myself have already started college funds for their children (my son is not yet two years old), and even then I feel like there's no chance of me saving enough to cover the costs.

WHAT? That should be against the law! Damn, i know Brazil has yet to improve its education quality and our system to get in collages is not very fair with people who were to public schools (the best basic schools are private), but at least everybody have a chance to try its way to collage education (our best collages are federal universities, paid 100% with tax money, so there are no extra expenses, even tho private collages are becoming better every day. The law college i study, for example, is private and is the country 8th best and is the best law college in my state, even better than the federal one; however, it is fairly payable, not entering the ridiculous prices of US colleges).


Edited by CCVP - May 30 2008 at 15:37

CCVP wrote: The T wrote:   So I better start a fund for the children.. not for their college but for their "prog education"... more and more cd's! i will go a bit off topic here, but i have ever had a doubt and this may be the opportunity to kill the doubt: why you must have a fund to have college education on "1st world countries"? Is good college education only available in private colleges and is it so expensive that you have to save your money for decades so your children would be able to have that education?

College education in the United States is unbelievably expensive, to the point of lunacy.  Public (state) universities are less expensive but still very costly.  To offset these gargantuan costs, young people need to borrow an incredible amount of money such that the need for a good paying job after graduation is all the more pressing, as you are now in a lot of debt.  And if you want to go to medical school, law school, or some other graduate studies...you could have education debt until you're 50 years old!  Young parents like myself have already started college funds for their children (my son is not yet two years old), and even then I feel like there's no chance of me saving enough to cover the costs.

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what about a "best prog father of the year" award?

CCVP wrote: The T wrote: Prog creates more poverty than the Bush administration...   Seriously... prog is nefarious for my economy... It's like I'm buying all I can until one day I have a family and prog has to take the back seat to other more important expenses...   (what would those be? ) in my case, prog DOES makes me poor. on the other hand, more important expenses would be prog for your children. After all, the future of prog is in their hands!

Edited by The T - May 30 2008 at 14:57

NaturalScience wrote: The T wrote: It's like I'm buying all I can until one day I have a family and prog has to take the back seat to other more important expenses... I have a family.  Trust me, the prog expenditures have not diminished.

The T wrote: It's like I'm buying all I can until one day I have a family and prog has to take the back seat to other more important expenses...

I have a family.  Trust me, the prog expenditures have not diminished. 

NaturalScience wrote: The T wrote: There must be a reasons why my cd collection keeps growing with no stop... And why your pockets are always empty...

true, i can never hold more than R$100,00 (something near U$62,6) in my wallet and i am constantly flat broke.

The T wrote: There must be a reasons why my cd collection keeps growing with no stop...

And why your pockets are always empty...

I'm always on the lookout for new to me music.  The last few years (I've been using this site since well before I joined) has been a constant voyage of discovery, though it has slowed down somewhat.  I've discovered many old bands that were new to me as well as more recent ones.  I listen to many bands/artists from every decade represented at this site.

Most neo-prog, prog-metal, and neo-symph is not for me.  Post '70s, it's particularly Zeuhl and RiO/ Avant that has held my interest, but I also listen to later Progressive Electronic, and bands/ albums from other categories.  I find the avant prog, chamber prog, scene very vibrant today, still great Zeuhl coming out, and great modern Canterbury Scene music.

I would have lost interest in this site if I had lost a passion for musical exploration.  I don't find myself trying to expand my collection nearly as rapidly as I once did, though, and find myself listening to albums that I've had for quite some time much more than I did, but then I have a large and quite diverse collection.

I think that I have a nice balance, but tend to go with more modern and extreme types of prog. My ratio is probably about 70/30 for new/older. I do love to mix things up though and on my playlist, it goes from ELP to Messhugah, and from Genesis to Unexpect. There is something about progressive metal and tech/extreme metal that always catches my interest, but I still love and respect the 70's prog (ELP is pretty much the greatest IMHO).