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jimmy_row
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Posted: May 25 2008 at 11:37 | ||
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jimmy_row
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Posted: May 25 2008 at 11:41 | ||
woa I feel silly for not noticing this sooner...just checked Greg Walker and he has the mini LP for a relatively
good price
SKALDOWIE - Organ soaked seventies prog
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micky
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Posted: May 25 2008 at 11:43 | ||
ahhh.. I had checked earlier.. when Tuz mentioned the album to me. .and it wasn't there... great.. thanks Ryan. I'll take the pass on the Russian album then hahha
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TGM: Orb
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 21 2007 Location: n/a Status: Offline Points: 8052 |
Posted: May 25 2008 at 11:51 | ||
Review 44, Close To The Edge, Yes, 1972
This album resists all reviewing. Detailing the features is useless, as anyone on the site will inevitably get the album. Explaining how they contribute to the feel is mostly impossible (for me). Nonetheless, I feel obliged to try. I absolutely love this album. I think it's the best thing Yes have ever done, and one of the all-time greatest progressive albums. Close To The Edge itself is one of the
'archetypal' progressive epics, and yet is not at all 'by-the-books'
(as I've seen one review describe it). Firstly, its structure is
distinctly like that of a pop song. It isn't as firmly divided into
parts as something like Supper's Ready or A Plague Of Lighthouse
Keepers, but is a cohesive whole at all times. Over this lead rhythm section, we have effectively got three lead players: Howe's searing, slippery guitar, which switches between its own bizarre style and excellent soloing. The Caped One's obscenely large set of keyboards both provide a backing atmosphere and fully realise the cosmic feel of the album, as well as one of the most uplifting and powerful organ solos ever handled. Jon Anderson, the final piece of the puzzle, contributes an intelligent set of lyrics, both including killer phrases like 'Sad courage claimed the victims standing still for all to see/As armoured movers marched onwards to overlook the sea' and word choices for sound as well as what I like to call 'word feel' (when a word, usually an adjective, is there because its meaning provides a certain feel even if it's not vital to the sense). He also handles his high vocals with a bit of grit that wasn't there in Fragile, and, while this isn't necessarily better, it does suit the song down to the ground. The accompanying harmonies which frequently feature are no less perfect. Essentially,
this is the only line-up that could possibly have pulled off this
song, and the whole is indeed greater than the sum of the parts. From
the spiritual birdsong opening to the amazing harmonies of the first
half of 'I get up, I get down' to Anderson's triumphant 'I get up, I
get down' and the accompanying majesty of the Wakeman organ solo to
the truly superb use of tubular bells near the end of Seasons Of Man
to the final echo of the opener, every single moment is intensely
enjoyable, and can withstand breaking down or being seen as a whole
with equal resilience. Even as one of the newly initiated, whose
musical ear was at the time incapable of distinguishing the
instruments, I was gripped by this piece, its polish and its
atmosphere and lyrics, and haven't yet been released. Wakeman delights in the opportunity to take a slightly more lead role, giving us all sorts of whirly moogage and keyboards. Howe's guitar is incredibly interesting for me, even though I'm a non-musician and usually have an aversion to acoustic chords. Squire willingly generally handles a lower-ranged bass part (excluding a wonderful quick solo on The Preacher The Teacher, which does provide a bit more bottom behind the fuller sections and provide a better contrast for the softer ones. The grandiose Eclipse features another incredible solo from Wakeman, this time dualling mellotron with another instrument, which slows down excellently to Howe's guitar again. Jon Anderson again gives us a superlative vocal performance, and Bruford is intelligent on the drums/percussion side, creating the grandeur every bit as much as The Caped One. Siberian Khatru is the album's clear rock piece, with an intense organ riff running through the opening, Howe giving us a superb guitar performance, and Squire's bass (especially) driving the piece by both presence and absence. Bruford's percussion choices are inspired, giving an expanding feel to the piece, and both drum-beats and eclectic percussive battery. What really impresses on this one is how a musician can either change instrument without a moment of pause or awkward transition, with Wakeman gliding between harpischord, mellotron, moog and organ, and Howe employing both acoustic and electric guitars. Jon Anderson's vocals (complete with harmonies) and lyrics are again immaculate. Needless to say, again, this is 100% effort, enigma and brilliance, and essential listening. The
remaster includes the single version of America (the complete
version's on Fragile, and I've reviewed that there), which is equally
great in both formats. A single version of Total Mass Retain doesn't
work as badly as I'd have thought it would do out of context, and
could be of interest to a Yes fanatic. The two rehearsals/alternate
versions of You And I (much
thicker bass sound) and Siberian Khatru (some harmonies missed) are
actually quite interesting for me (a non Yes-nut), and I don't feel
crowded by the bonuses included or feel that they wreck the album as
a whole. Overall, a good set of bonuses. Rating: Five Stars. No question. Favourite Track: All of them. Going to say You And I for the lyrical interest. --- An entire page without reviews... This is madness New listens: From H To He was superb. I loved it. A VDGG album, certainly, but different to any of the later ones I've got. Less vocal-driven. 5ish Stars, because they're my second fanboy group. Phaedra was very interesting, though less easy to get to grips with than Rubycon. Not sure how to rate it. Mini-LP. Hm. I can't play those. Ah well, looks like the financial hit will take place eventually... --- Album Of The Week: Scheherazade And Other Stories - Renaissance. Just when I thought I was safe from Prog Folk... Song Of The Week: The Vultures Fly High - Renaissance. The inner pop fanatic strains... -- So, how'd I do on that one? Not easy to review, but I think I didn't end up making too big a mess of it. Next. Something else before Tales, I think, since I need a break from many-star reviewing. Might see if I can decide on something for Script. More Yes questions: For those people who didn't like Tales (not me, and not Mick, I know), what exactly was the problem with it? I see a lot of very general 'weren't enough ideas' reviews, but I can't help feeling that some people were just taken aback by the difficult nature of the album and have explained that away as a lack of substance. Edit: ha, my browser is shuddering at opening the 870-odd CTTE reviews so I can post mine... Edited by TGM: Orb - May 25 2008 at 11:58 |
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jimmy_row
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Posted: May 25 2008 at 11:53 | ||
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micky
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Posted: May 25 2008 at 11:55 | ||
ooohhh... been looking forward to this
possibly the first Close to the Edge review I'll read in months.. a year... since I've been here hahahah and reading |
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micky
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Posted: May 25 2008 at 12:03 | ||
excellent review Rob.. and you nailed the head. .again..
especially on why 'Close to the Edge' is head and shoulders above any epic out there.. the key is it's structure. It is, like I've said before and posted analytical analysis of before....it's an 18 minute long pop song... and how much more prog can anything be than that. Head and shoulders above anything else anyone did .. or even attempted. |
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jimmy_row
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Posted: May 25 2008 at 12:05 | ||
Rob, I like it. not really a difficult album to rate whatsoever. I brought CttE up a while back when we were talking about the "flawed masterpiece", just because I think they ran out of ideas by the second half of Siberian Khatru, they must play that riff 500 times. But I will say on it's behalf that it's a good riff at first, and the solo section is as good as it gets; particularly Steve Howe's pedal steel part - you don't hear many able to make it 'swoop' like that and sound so big and graceful. |
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jimmy_row
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Posted: May 25 2008 at 12:09 | ||
oh, and I can't forget how 'prog' the titles are...I remember being a prog newbie and looking at the back cover of CttE, I'd never seen roman numerals used to denote sections of a song, made it seem all the more complicated and adventurous when, as you said in the review, it's just a big pop song (or several of them strung together as in AYAI)
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TGM: Orb
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Posted: May 25 2008 at 12:14 | ||
I probably stole that idea from one of your posts . Couldn't find the review I remember you quoting, though. I have a slight preference for Les Porches, myself, because it has a little more imagery and even a 'physical' effect on me. There are not many songs at all that can quite do that (Larks' part 1, Exiles, Les Porches, Echoes' good bits, Epilogo (of Ys)).
I've just never had a problem with that, so can't really comment. It's always seemed to me like an expanding, blossoming wilderness developing into civilisation. The visuals overwhelm my analytical skills. That solo is superb :) I took a while to get into Tales. Really, I got it before I could appreciate the components, and only loved it after I took the time to just sit down and listen to the album with no other distractions at all. Before that, I found it rather pretentious and vacuous, but everything just came together on that listen. Now I love it to pieces. Edit:
Absolutely. I don't know why, but when I first got that album (not too long ago) it had an air of mystery to it because of that (and the album art, actually, which was incredibly well chosen, I thought). And it still does, analysis aside. I'd only really got some ELP (my prog introduction, believe it or not) and a tad of Genesis and Crimson at the time. The sheer weirdness of CTTE (by comparison) was quite a different experience. Edited by TGM: Orb - May 25 2008 at 12:18 |
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Posted: May 25 2008 at 12:25 | ||
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: May 25 2008 at 13:56 | ||
Good job on the SeaTeaTeeEee review! Much better than the one I did... although give me some credit, it was
the second review I ever did . As for VdGG, H to He was the first one I ever got into, you're right - it's way different than their later stuff. Anyways, I'm going to "Moving Pictures" my way off to work |
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The Quiet One
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Posted: May 25 2008 at 19:45 | ||
Since then, Death walks behind you |
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: May 26 2008 at 00:12 | ||
Well I just got back and he didn't get me. Maybe I'll pop in that album next.
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TGM: Orb
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 21 2007 Location: n/a Status: Offline Points: 8052 |
Posted: May 26 2008 at 10:14 | ||
Review 44, Crime Of The Century, Supertramp, 1974 The two Supertramp albums I have, this
and Crisis? What Crisis?, are surprisingly interesting. Most of the
songs are somewhat poppish in nature, and I can't see much that would
seriously offend radio play, but there is an inherently different
sound to the band. The combination of saxes, clarinet, keys, violin,
piano and guitar as lead, background and rhythm instruments at
different times (as well as multiple vocalists) is pretty interesting
in and of itself, and provides a range of sounds which are just not
available to most groups. On Crime Of The Century, this range of
sounds comes together with a loose concept (schooling and its
results...) and good lyrics to produce an extremely good album.
Dreamer, really, is the only piece I find slightly harder to love.
Despite that weak point, the album as a whole is very good, and
School and Crime Of The Century Itself are both 100% brilliance.
Should be tried. An e-piano (if I'm right) near-solo leads us into Bloody Well Right, building up a contrast for the sax and guitar to kick in. A hard rock verse, with vicious vocals, chord guitars and bursts of soloing of the highest order bursts out of the woodwork with a definite force. The chorus is amusingly English, and fairly nicely handled, in my opinion. A set of handclaps and a sax solo brings us out neatly. Hide In Your Shell is a much bigger piece, with a Yes-like mass of lyrics (quantity, not quality) crammed into it. All of the possible elements of Supertramp, piano mostly excluded, are present somewhere in the song. The flow is pretty perfectly handled, and the vocals (except occasionally annoying faux-feminine harmonies) do match the song. We do get (around the five minute mark) a fairly interesting rhythm section, with a more worldy feel from the drumming and a squirming bass to match. Good. Asylum begins with another piano solo,
and develops carefully to include Davies' vocals. The piano is a
constant for the first couple of minutes, with a couple of subtle
bass and organ additions before the piece's not-quite-chorus (organ,
bass and drum driven, with a violin over the top) bursts out. The
violins, a warm sax and all sorts of keys are laid over the next
verse (even some tubular bells and guitar soloing on the next chorusy
bit). Essentially, this is just taking a basic idea, and cleverly
adding the band's rather large array of instrumentation over it, as
well as being willing to break out of a song structure. Very well
done. If Everyone Was Listening is begun with more piano-vocal choices. Dougie Thomson's bass and Bob Benberg's percussion do get an opportunity to show their faces in the chorus. On the second verse, a nice clarinet (and also keys, and violin) supplement the piano. All of the song's basic elements are shown in the second chorus. A gorgeous piano-violin-bass-keys quartet leads us out. Overall, a very likable song. Crime Of The Century Itself is the album's near-indisputable highlight. A harder twist on the piano features, as does a surprisingly vicious set of keys, bass and drums, and the vocals (Davies) and lyrical themes do come to a head . The piece swells out into an amazing instrumental section, including a slightly Brian May-esque guitar performance, a very clever use of the piano and a lower clarinet as well as the hammond and a set of drums which echo one of the bursts on School. John Helliwell provides a lilting sax solo which is surprisingly refreshing, given how fond I am of a growling Collins or Jaxon sax. The violins and a harmonica guide us out. An absolutely perfect fade, and an amazing conclusion to the album. The net value of the album is extremely high. I do have a general preference for the darker, jazzier and more brooding sides of prog, but I nonetheless agree that this is a superb album, and shouldn't really disappoint anyone. But, enough yapping from me, the title track is available on PA as a sample (at the time of the review): give it a few listens, and if you don't love that track, don't bother with the album. If you do, then Crime Of The Century should be added to your shopping list post haste. Rating: Four Stars. Very interesting combination of sounds. Favourite Track: Crime Of The Century. ---- Mike, that's only because I was trying to get a 1 review/page average for the last couple of pages . Consider yourself lucky. ... Considering lowering a couple of ratings (on first page, if anyone's interested). Might. Might not. I'm trying to be a slightly meaner reviewer at the moment. Listened to Stratosfear, which was . 4/5ish stars, but I'm not quite sure how I'd rate electronica fairly. Been giving the Caravan stuff a listen or two more. Decided that the problem with If I Could Do It All Over Again is the vocals... |
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micky
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Posted: May 26 2008 at 10:16 | ||
ooohhhh... an album I have very mixed feelings about..
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micky
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Posted: May 26 2008 at 10:23 | ||
descending to the level of repeating myself to the apparent level of meaningless platitudes but another excellent review Rob. My mixed feeling regards the album as a whole.. agree that School and the title track are essential listens.. but the rest.. ehhh.. didn't do much for me. Probably due for a fresh listen to that..
re: the vocals on the Caravan album.. Pye Hastings's voice?.. or something else? I know Raff prefers Sinclairs voice over Hastings.. which I do as well.. yet I don't have a problem with his voice. .and the music on 'If I could...' is much more interesting for me than 'Grey and Pink' Edited by micky - May 26 2008 at 10:24 |
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: May 26 2008 at 12:27 | ||
Nooooo!!! Micky, why!?
Personally I love Crime... to death. I originally gave it a 4 but bumped it up later on. I totally agree with you on Dreamer though. I like it because I heard it way too much growing up, but I can definitely see where it gets annoying. I'd be interested to see what you think of Crisis... because I found that one to be way "poppier" than Crime. Anyways, a great review! Pointed out some things that I didn't even notice until now. If you liked that one though I think you should give "Even In The Quietest Moments" a shot. @Micky - love the sig |
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TGM: Orb
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Posted: May 26 2008 at 17:01 | ||
Divide and conquer.
What?! I just listened to Crisis? What Crisis? again, and it apparently has been draining musical value from Crime and The Doors (which are neighbouring it on the shelf). I did really enjoy it throughout, which I can't remember doing previously. Going to have to give it a while to stew over before reviewing it. Previously, I'd only really liked A Soapbox Opera and Another Man's Woman, but now, I think I found something to like on everything. From my previous listens, I was definitely content with a 3, now I'm on a 4. Meh. I almost get annoyed by albums that decide to do this just when I want to review them ... I'll definitely (I say that, but...) take a look at a little more Supertramp on my next spree
Pretty much, and some of the vocal harmonies seemed very 60s pop to me. (If I'm way off, ignore me, I'm on the second listen or so). Still, the music's very interesting on both. Just, no Disassociation on If... |
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micky
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Posted: May 26 2008 at 17:21 | ||
yeah. .I thought today was a good day to break out a new sig I'll give the album a fresh listen tonight.. I'll be fair and say they aren't exactly a favorite group of mine, thus don't get many listens. Really. the only album that I really did take to was BiA. |
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