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The Quiet One
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 18:46 |
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Sorry to sound against most of you above. But has anyone heard A Passion Play?. The main reason that I found War Child indegistible and boring is cause the lack of songwriting. It has taken parts of Passion Play added with some annoying orchestral arrangements..Of course guys, this is IMHO! Please if you wanna discuss, let's do it civilised, I didn't mean to provoce fight..
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The Quiet One
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 18:42 |
MisterProg2112 wrote:
Dream Theater's "Falling Into Infinity" and "Train of Thought"
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Genesis' "Calling All Stations" is pretty good. |
If you liked Calling All Stations, why not give a try to We Can't Dance..
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Statutory-Mike
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 18:30 |
Dream Theater's "Falling Into Infinity" and "Train of Thought"
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Genesis' "Calling All Stations" is pretty good.
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debrewguy
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 18:17 |
I like Aqualung better than the other Tull albums, including TAAB. Floyd's DSOTM over the rest. Rush's Caress of Steel. Klaatu's Hope & 3:47E.S.T, Ange's Emile Jacotey & Au dela du Delire over most of what is listed in the top 100 of any genre. Why, because I have good tastes.
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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The Doctor
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 16:36 |
I like Warchild too. In fact, I'm pretty sure my sig is from that album.
ABWH is great too, with the exception noted above - Teakbois - what the were they thinking (smoking?) when they wrote that dreadful song?
Edited by The Doctor - May 21 2008 at 16:39
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 16:32 |
I like Warchild too! First Tull album I owned. Not my fav, but definitely a good one! Listened to it to death when I bought it at first. ABWH is also awsome (spare the atrocious Teakbois ) and Crest is one of my fav Tull albums. But Warchild - yeps, it's good.
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fuxi
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 16:30 |
Hey!!!
I really like WHITE ROCK, OBSCURED BY CLOUDS, CREST OF A KNAVE and even AWBH (at least MOST of the tracks on the latter).
So don't cry 'cause you're NOT alone!
But how about WARCHILD?
NOBODY likes it, and it's probably among my Top-3 Tull albums.
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The Doctor
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 16:28 |
Moogtron III wrote:
Tony Banks - The Fugitive : great album, very underrated. For collectors / fans only? I disagree.
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What? What?? What???!!!
I love that album...how could that be rated for collectors only?
Definitely add that one to my list.
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Moogtron III
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 16:08 |
Asia - Asia
Camel - The Single Factor
Jon & Vangelis - Short Stories
Jon & Vangelis - Private Collection Yes - Yes
Yes -Time And A Word
Yes - Tormato
Yes - 90125
But does the majority really dislike them? i don't think so. All of these albums are still being rated on this site as "Good, but not essential"
Okay, one then:
Tony Banks - The Fugitive : great album, very underrated. For collectors / fans only? I disagree.
Further on, not on this site:
Buggles - The Age Of Plastic
Buggles - Adventures In Modern Recording
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 16:06 |
The Doctor wrote:
Ok...there are several:
Genesis - Abacab and Calling All Stations
Jethro Tull - Crest of a Knave
Pink Floyd - The Final Cut
Rush - Presto
Abba - ...(oops...what's that doing here?)
ELPowell - ELPowell
Yes - Drama and 90125
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Doctor, Thank you for preparing my list for me. Although, I'm not sure why Abba is included? That one isn't in my repertoire.
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The Doctor
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 15:59 |
Ok...there are several:
Genesis - Abacab and Calling All Stations
Jethro Tull - Crest of a Knave
Pink Floyd - The Final Cut
Rush - Presto
Abba - ...(oops...what's that doing here?)
ELPowell - ELPowell
Yes - Drama and 90125
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 15:55 |
Nightfly wrote:
Toaster Mantis wrote:
Maybe Crest of a Knave takes some flak because it beat out Metallica for the Best Metal Performance Grammy? |
I really like Crest of a Knave.......more now than when it was released actually. Unfortunately it's the last Tull album I trully enjoyed as whole though each one since has had it's moments. |
Funny, now that I remember Crest... I don't think I liked it that much. IIRC it lacked the earthiness that's pretty much integral to Tull's appeal.
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 15:46 |
Norbert wrote:
Dream Theater-apart from some weak songs a really good album, I like it more than its sucessor...
Pain of Salvation:Scarsick see 90125.
The 2 latest TMV albums are considered to be sub-par albums by many, but I like most parts of them a lot. |
Which DT album are you on about here Norbert? I agree with you about TMV, TBiG is their best album IMO and Amputechture is at least a big improvment of the very frustrating Frances the Mute.
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TGM: Orb
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 15:37 |
cacho wrote:
TGM: Orb wrote:
Asia - Quality rock album, AOR moments included. The musicianship is fine throughout, and Time And Time Again, Sole Survivor and Without You are especially superb. Apparently, because it's not prog and has prog musicians, they're betraying us. Alpha was pretty banal, though.ELP - I quite like Works 2. I don't love it to pieces, but I'll put it on for a spin every now and then. Black Moon is one that I really do like yet seems to be rated lower than I'd expected. Not quite sure why, perhaps Palmer's changed drum sound and Lake's vocals didn't appeal, and there's a bit of good pop-rock on there.King Crimson - I love Islands, Discipline and Lizard, though I'm certain 'the majority dislikes' isn't the right term. They're just not as loved as some other albums.Rush - Caress Of Steel. My favourite Rush album, hands down. I don't think the general opinion is 'it's bad', but that 'it's just a step towards the uber-Rush of Moving Pictures [s]boredom[/s] fame.Otherwise, not much to say. |
Yeah I do love Islands and Lizard, fave Crimson albums I should say. Second by Court and Wake.
Wetton era has damn good stuff, but don't really apeal me as their early stuff. I love many stuff from Lark's and Starless, but not frequent albums I would play.
Larks is my all-time favourite album. I do really love everything by Crimson that I've got, though.
I haven't heard Works 2 but 1, and I really enjoy it, not fully, but a has overlooked masterpieces by ELP: Pirates and Fanfare for the Common Man.
I've always thought the masterpieces are easily Palmer's side and Emerson's Toccata Con Fuoco. I absolutely love bits of Pirates, but lots of the orchestra work seems unneccessary to me. Fanfare, I just don't like the synth choices, too grainy. Works 2 isn't a great ELP album, and it doesn't have obvious great tracks, but I do enjoy it in the background.
Black Moon is a fine album with some weak spots. I do like Greg's voice, since Black Moon track was one of my first loved ELP songs. |
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The Quiet One
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 14:37 |
manray wrote:
i really like drama by yesi also quite enjoyed time and a word |
Drama has been very well praised lately in PA, thx God for that. Although not being underrated but overlooked, not many fans know it's a hell of an album.
Time and a Word well I really don't enjoy it, since Jon's voice is weak IMO.
I really prefer this:
Totally overlooked. I love it as most of Yes albums, even though not having amazing material, the album is very consistent and good nice songs. As well as Supertramp's debut.
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The Quiet One
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 14:26 |
TGM: Orb wrote:
Asia - Quality rock album, AOR moments included. The musicianship is fine throughout, and Time And Time Again, Sole Survivor and Without You are especially superb. Apparently, because it's not prog and has prog musicians, they're betraying us. Alpha was pretty banal, though.ELP - I quite like Works 2. I don't love it to pieces, but I'll put it on for a spin every now and then. Black Moon is one that I really do like yet seems to be rated lower than I'd expected. Not quite sure why, perhaps Palmer's changed drum sound and Lake's vocals didn't appeal, and there's a bit of good pop-rock on there.King Crimson - I love Islands, Discipline and Lizard, though I'm certain 'the majority dislikes' isn't the right term. They're just not as loved as some other albums.Rush - Caress Of Steel. My favourite Rush album, hands down. I don't think the general opinion is 'it's bad', but that 'it's just a step towards the uber-Rush of Moving Pictures [s]boredom[/s] fame.Otherwise, not much to say. |
Yeah I do love Islands and Lizard, fave Crimson albums I should say. Second by Court and Wake.
Wetton era has damn good stuff, but don't really apeal me as their early stuff. I love many stuff from Lark's and Starless, but not frequent albums I would play.
I haven't heard Works 2 but 1, and I really enjoy it, not fully, but a has overlooked masterpieces by ELP: Pirates and Fanfare for the Common Man.
Black Moon is a fine album with some weak spots. I do like Greg's voice, since Black Moon track was one of my first loved ELP songs.
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 14:23 |
Toaster Mantis wrote:
Maybe Crest of a Knave takes some flak because it beat out Metallica for the Best Metal Performance Grammy? |
I really like Crest of a Knave.......more now than when it was released actually. Unfortunately it's the last Tull album I trully enjoyed as whole though each one since has had it's moments.
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The Quiet One
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 14:22 |
The Whistler wrote:
Well, there's a couple a Tull albums that I'm sure no one saw coming...
Too Old is not among my favorite Tull albums, but it's pretty solid all the same, and I don't see what's wrong with it at all. However, Minstrel (which DOES get bashed from time to time) is a weird lil' pocket of emotional catharsis that pleases me whenever I put it on, and Broadsword is definitely an underrated 80's gem. And, although perhaps not a gem, Catfish Rising (and the subsequent live Little Light Music) does not get any good press at all.
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I do enjoy Too Old. I think War Child is very overrated and this one being very left behind. Ok not awsome compositions or stunning solos, but definitly a 3 star album since it has nice songs, relaxing I should say.
I do love Catfish Rising, since one of my first Tull albums together with TAAB was J-Tull Live 199something..It had very well played 80's 90's songs, although much hard rockish than prog.
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TGM: Orb
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 14:22 |
Asia - Quality rock album, AOR moments included. The musicianship is fine throughout, and Time And Time Again, Sole Survivor and Without You are especially superb. Apparently, because it's not prog and has prog musicians, they're betraying us. Alpha was pretty banal, though.
ELP - I quite like Works 2. I don't love it to pieces, but I'll put it on for a spin every now and then. Black Moon is one that I really do like yet seems to be rated lower than I'd expected. Not quite sure why, perhaps Palmer's changed drum sound and Lake's vocals didn't appeal, and there's a bit of good pop-rock on there.
King Crimson - I love Islands, Discipline and Lizard, though I'm certain 'the majority dislikes' isn't the right term. They're just not as loved as some other albums.
Rush - Caress Of Steel. My favourite Rush album, hands down. I don't think the general opinion is 'it's bad', but that 'it's just a step towards the uber-Rush of Moving Pictures [s]boredom[/s] fame.
Otherwise, not much to say.
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The Quiet One
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Posted: May 21 2008 at 14:19 |
stonebeard wrote:
Genesis: We Can't DanceYes: Talk, Big Generator, 90125, Open Your Eyes, TormatoPain of Salvation: ScarsickDream Theater: Falling into InfinityTangerine Dream: A lot of post-Hyperborea stuffMarillion: Holidays in EdenJethro Tull: Crest of a Knave
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I really enjoy Genesis We Can't Dance, the only one from the "plain" pop era: Abacab to We Can't Dance.
It has two 10 min songs, that are very good, not great, but very good and surprising.
As you know I accept pop or dance songs, so I can't Dance is a fave pop track like Owner of a Lonely Heart.
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