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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2008 at 09:01
 
Zaal should really be added in JR/F, but hardly ever any member of that team is around, so either we add them there without their permission, or we add them to RPI/ISP and move them later.
 
 
 
Well, now Zaal have been added twice, in Jazz Rock/fusion by Cesar Inca and to ISP by Micky... Wacko


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2008 at 11:55
Attacked from 2 sides, sounds like a Machiavellan conspiracy LOL. I just realized (being a political history buff) that "March on Rome" has a rather fascist connotation Ouch    I was thinking more of the Spartacus tune from Triumvirat  Cool. Better two entries than none at all ! So much for alleged laziness on PA !
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2008 at 12:03
OK, I'll see if I can remove one of the Zaal entriesLOL...

Edit: Already fixed!Wink


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2008 at 17:06
Originally posted by andrea andrea wrote:

 
Zaal should really be added in JR/F, but hardly ever any member of that team is around, so either we add them there without their permission, or we add them to RPI/ISP and move them later.
 
 
 
Well, now Zaal have been added twice, in Jazz Rock/fusion by Cesar Inca and to ISP by Micky... Wacko


hahahhaha.. yeah...  bust my ass for not adding.. bust my ass for adding LOL

PM'd the admins as soon as I realized I did that  this morning (before my first cup of coffee so cut me some slack). It has been brought to M@X's attention and he'll kill my addition. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 19 2008 at 17:10
Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

Yibbideyay, what a great album Zarathustra is!
If all the other recs on that list is as good as this one micky, I might have to spend all my savings to just travel over to the States and kiss you.
 
Hey! Hands off, you young pupAngryWinkLOL! That's private propertyLOL...
 
Tito Schipa Jr: I can do the bios if you want, and add them. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2008 at 00:00
Zarathustra review up Thumbs%20Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2008 at 00:14
^ ...and it's a good one as usual Thumbs%20Up  You highligted one of the criticisms I've heard of that album - it's not diverse enough, and it's even been said that it's too much like Deep Purple and Rooster...not "Italian" enough (whatever that means).  I can't comment much because I haven't heard the whole thing, but it definately sounds like my thing, despite the minor flaws.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2008 at 00:19
Can't say I find it that close to either of those two bands. But the heavy influences are there - bigtime. I've had some great sessions with that album. Vibrant.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2008 at 00:20
OK, guys, today I'll be away all day (Micky knows.... it's for a very good cause!Wink), so the Tito Schipa Jr. addition will have to wait until tomorrow. I should also remember to get the actual CD for him... It is rather easy to find in mainstream record stores, since it features two very popular Italian artists (who were then almost unknown), Renato Zero and Loredana Berté (who was once married to tennis ace Bjorn Borg).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2008 at 15:09
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Ghost Rider Ghost Rider wrote:

Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

Yibbideyay, what a great album Zarathustra is!
If all the other recs on that list is as good as this one micky, I might have to spend all my savings to just travel over to the States and kiss you.
 
Hey! Hands off, you young pupAngryWinkLOL! That's private propertyLOL...
 
Tito Schipa Jr: I can do the bios if you want, and add them. 


LOLLOL

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Finally getting back to doing Gianinni tonight.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2008 at 15:15
LOL  wise.. .very wise my friend 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2008 at 17:45
Glurblurbhurb.

Nothing to worry about. Just bad research.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2008 at 19:51
Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

Area - Arbeit Macht Frei
Balletto Di Bronzo - Ys
Raccomandata Ricevuta Ritorno - Per...Mondo Di Cristallo
Osanna - Palepoli
Reale Accademia di Musica – same
Alusa Fallax – “Intorno Alla Mia”
Quella Vecchia Locanda – “Il Tempo Della Gioia”
(Alphataurus - s/t)

Those are the picks from your list. Now on to James'...[EDIT] Those are the ones who will make it, if I'm able to find them. Perhaps not all in one batch, perhaps not all of them.


Re-posting this list for feedback.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2008 at 19:55
Ys is a masterpiece. The others, I don't know them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2008 at 19:59
Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

Area - Arbeit Macht Frei
Balletto Di Bronzo - Ys
Raccomandata Ricevuta Ritorno - Per...Mondo Di Cristallo
Osanna - Palepoli
Reale Accademia di Musica – same
Alusa Fallax – “Intorno Alla Mia”
Quella Vecchia Locanda – “Il Tempo Della Gioia”
(Alphataurus - s/t)

Those are the picks from your list. Now on to James'...[EDIT] Those are the ones who will make it, if I'm able to find them. Perhaps not all in one batch, perhaps not all of them.


Re-posting this list for feedback.


if you can't find Il Tempo Della Gioia.. then 'settle' for their self-tittled debut... personally I think it is a better album... but that is one of those 50-50 propositions.. which means...  you'll end up getting both at some point LOL

Will be really curious to hear what you think of Alphataurus...

great list there...Clap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2008 at 20:00
Zarathustra reviewed BTW, eager to hear your comments.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2008 at 20:01
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

Area - Arbeit Macht Frei
Balletto Di Bronzo - Ys
Raccomandata Ricevuta Ritorno - Per...Mondo Di Cristallo
Osanna - Palepoli
Reale Accademia di Musica – same
Alusa Fallax – “Intorno Alla Mia”
Quella Vecchia Locanda – “Il Tempo Della Gioia”
(Alphataurus - s/t)

Those are the picks from your list. Now on to James'...[EDIT] Those are the ones who will make it, if I'm able to find them. Perhaps not all in one batch, perhaps not all of them.


Re-posting this list for feedback.


if you can't find Il Tempo Della Gioia.. then 'settle' for their self-tittled debut... personally I think it is a better album... but that is one of those 50-50 propositions.. which means...  you'll end up getting both at some point LOL

Will be really curious to hear what you think of Alphataurus...

great list there...Clap


I just hope I'll be able to find as much as possible.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2008 at 20:07
Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

Zarathustra reviewed BTW, eager to hear your comments.


and I'll look for that as well Clap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2008 at 20:17
excellent review Linus.. so much so... I won't quibble over the lack of the 5th star. LOL 

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4%20stars Cryptic, red-blooded and pulsating, Zarathustra is a ride of massive proportions. If you’re looking for pastoral beauty, take a step back. Not to say that there isn’t any, but the best part of the near forty minutes here take a more sinister, darker and heavier approach to the concepts usually found in Italian symphonic rock.

Built around Nietzsche’s work, the album's main focal point is the title piece, which consists of many shorter songs-within-a-song in true progressive spirit. Needless to say, the lyrics are lost for those who don’t speak the language, and thus I cannot comment on whether the concept works or even exists. Based on track names alone, it does seem to make sense. I’ve never been hard on lyrics anyway, and when the music speaks for itself, all possible concerns about lost depth and philosophical comments are left behind.

Zarathustra is definitely more aligned with the rest of the European prog scene, without losing a distinct Italian touch of melodrama and passion along the way. Instead of the rather delicate compositions provided by many of Museo Rosenbach’s contemporaries, power is top priority. A rocking guitar takes a lot of space which, granted, gives the music a grittier, earthier flair together with a Hammond sound that would make Atomic Rooster proud. Drummer Giancarlo Golzi does a tremendous job behind the kit in delivering consistently powerful and interesting drum work. Once again: heavy. But on top of this are massive layers of atmospheric Mellotron, with sprinkles of different sorts of keys, both varied and beautifully arranged in a lot more interesting compositions than one first would think. And just because the guitar is prominent doesn’t mean that it overshadows the keys in any way, this is still very keyboard-heavy music. Dotted across the album are also a number of softer interludes. With sublime and suggestive keys (sometimes piano) and gentle guitar, they are melodic and dramatic like early PFM. They often end in ‘explosions’, either from the combined forces of the band or in rough, raspy outburst from vocalist Stefano ‘Lupo’ Galifi. He’s got a colourful voice, perhaps not of everybody’s liking, but it is nothing if not passionate.

Not much to complain about as it seems. But Zarathustra suffers from one small drawback. This one being that the band knows what they do well and thus never really broadens their horizons on the album. There are a lot of variations on themes used earlier, and the structural differences between the songs are never very big. Too often you find yourself thinking ‘haven’t I heard this before?’ when spinning the album. And in order for it to reach the elusive masterpiece level, I just want more variation. Pauses, crescendos, interludes, rising and falling tension, all in a natural flow that enhances the musical storytelling. It exists in one form or another, but it’s not perfected.

A very enjoyable and balanced release, interesting for RPI fans, heavy prog fans and fans of more readily accepted symphonic bands.

Excellent addition to any prog collection. 4 stars.

//LinusW

Thomas... GREAT review...  that album just made it on my list of albums to get. Sounds like something right up my alley.

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5%20stars Zaal is an extraordinary recording from talented composer Agostino Macor, the brilliant keyboardist of Finisterre, Hostsonaten and La Maschera di Cera renown. Surrounded by some of his usual colleagues as well as a few new guys, the crafty composer suggests a jazzier side to his usual heavy symphonic gig with weighty use of the grand piano. When a progressive disc starts off with a 51 second intro with some superlative ivory work, you know this is going to be joyride. The 8 minute plus ”Zelig” is a stunning work with intense cello and supple violin fillets on a bed of lush mellotron and sweet synthesizer, another dash of tangy piano, the prolific Fabio Zuffanti on bass and some wonderfully ornate drum work from Federico Foglia as sides. On the masterful epic “Il Destino di Haghia Sofia”, Macor shoves this straight into pure jazz confines with liberal use of Fender Rhodes , tagging along with some highly Pontyesque violin forays from Sergio Caputo, some exemplary furrowing bass by Maurizio Bavastro as well as Foglia ‘s relentless work. “La Lama” is a minute long reflective piano etude that breathes and pants, a stellar example of passionate restraint. The next track is called “Progress”, pfff what a title! The mood goes head first into some seriously experimental symphonic Prog with strings ablaze, a hint of harpsichord, ornately buzzing synths as well as Finisterre’s soaring Stefano Marelli on lead guitar (is he good or what?) all tossed into the melee, a musical antipasto adding bursts of saxophone to provide some “piccante”. This final supreme instrument is the showcase on “Naan”, a vibrant follow-up to the previous madness, a meanderingly sexy solo courtesy of Paolo Pezzi that has a cool, relaxed authority about it that just exudes class. Aaah! What, I dialed a wrong number? Well, this is a recording after all and “Il Cannocchiale” is a Macor Fender Rhodes and a Marelli e-bow guitar theatrical duet with French and then German spoken word samples. Hey, Robert, Stefano can “tronic” too! Simply brilliant stuff, constantly in search of the edge. “Cinquequarti” smartly revisits the jazz quartet pattern with Bavastro’s bopping bass foraging assuredly, Caputo’s catskin caressing the violin strings with sheer impunity and Macor weaving some additional piano magic. Blending briefly into the mellotron infested “Limbo”. The final piece is “Sul Mutamento”, a classy 7.23 minute epic that showcases all the combined talent amassed by Macor and his “amici”, a keyboard fest with piano, Rhodes, Wurlitzer, Mellotron and synthesizer all taking a bow in the spotlight. Caputo takes a little violent ride with later Marelli going for a mellow exit. Though most probably a one–shot “solo” album that is miles away from his normal style, Agostino Macor certainly has a side project that is most worthy of pursuing. Certainly hard to resist for fans of ISP and for those discerning proggers who like a little class with their music. Beautiful gray/blue slate modern graphics add to the pleasure. 5 Rhodes.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2008 at 20:22
At first I had a 5th star planned. But with repeated listens I dropped it Embarrassed. Still a massive album. 
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