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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2008 at 14:22
Haven't they already done a Henry Cow box?  It was over £100 and still is, as far as I know.
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I'm pretty sure you're thinking of the Art Bears set. 

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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2008 at 14:30
No no, there was a Henry Cow one for Subscribers only, I think.

It isn't 9 CDs though:


 HENRY COW SPECIAL EDITION
Code:HCSpecialEdition1
Price: £100.00


Legend, Unrest, In Praise of Learning, Western Culture - all in cardboard original release facsimile covers. This is a limited Japanese edition of 500 copies of which 32 numbered copies are available outside Japan. These pressings are identical to the ReR releases, so these are really only for collectors. And they are not cheap:28 pounds each, or 100 pounds the set which comes with an archive "Henry Cow family tree" from 1990. Must be sold on a first come first served basis. Not available in japan




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 HENRY COW: LIMITED EDITION FACSIMILIE SET IN BOX (7 CDs, box)
Code:henryCowFac
Price: £105.00


Very sturdily boxed edition containing the new Concerts double, as well as the other four Henry Cow releases and the Henry Cow/SlappHappy release 'Desperate Straights' - all in facsimile original board LP-style covers, with an extra subscription-only 8cm CD of previously unreleased material, in a strictly limited edition of 200 numbered copies.
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Points: 7003 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 10 2008 at 19:07
Originally posted by rileydog22 rileydog22 wrote:

Just got a newsletter from ReR USA today, and sometime this year they are going to release a NINE DISK Henry Cow box set.  I wonder what they'll fill all those disks with?  
 
Official releases already run to seven discs, so the remainder will either be live material (and there are some very good quality live recordings out there in cyberspace; seek and ye may possibly find) if we're lucky or another project like the Art Bears revisited set that was included in the Art Box (which was interesting but nothing to get too excited about) if we're not.
 
I didn't get the limited edition Henry Cow box (finances) but I might invest in this depending on what's included.
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Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

 
Songs is a good intro Blegvad's work, a mixture of reworked songs from his back catalogue and some new material played by a virtuoso all acoustic ensemble.
 
Kew.Rhone is a 5* masterpiece that you should already own. After that I'd suggest Little Bottle Of Laundry, The Caretaker and Verlaine.
 
The 80s albums Parrot Fashions and Accident have some great moments but a very 80s sound (Linndrums and synths).


Agree 100% regarding Kew.Rhone.  One of my top faves of all time.  Musically and lyrically brilliant in a manner not dissimilar to Desperate Straights.  I only ever purchased one other later Blegvad album, however (can't recall which one... UNEARTHED, perhaps?), as I found it to be fairly standard and unremarkable singer-songwriter stuff.  As such, I'm wondering if LAUNDRY, CARETAKER or VERLAINE are in the manner of DS or KR, and if not, if you can say more about why you might recommend them?

And what of John Greaves?  Aren't CARETAKER and VERLAINE primarily his work?

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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 11 2008 at 08:58
Really have to get my hands on that Concerts double.
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Points: 7003 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 11 2008 at 10:30
Originally posted by pkazee pkazee wrote:

Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

 
Songs is a good intro Blegvad's work, a mixture of reworked songs from his back catalogue and some new material played by a virtuoso all acoustic ensemble.
 
Kew.Rhone is a 5* masterpiece that you should already own. After that I'd suggest Little Bottle Of Laundry, The Caretaker and Verlaine.
 
The 80s albums Parrot Fashions and Accident have some great moments but a very 80s sound (Linndrums and synths).


Agree 100% regarding Kew.Rhone.  One of my top faves of all time.  Musically and lyrically brilliant in a manner not dissimilar to Desperate Straights.  I only ever purchased one other later Blegvad album, however (can't recall which one... UNEARTHED, perhaps?), as I found it to be fairly standard and unremarkable singer-songwriter stuff.  As such, I'm wondering if LAUNDRY, CARETAKER or VERLAINE are in the manner of DS or KR, and if not, if you can say more about why you might recommend them?

And what of John Greaves?  Aren't CARETAKER and VERLAINE primarily his work?

Thanks!
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D'Oh!!!! I meant Greaves, not Blegvad, although he had some input into all of the albums mentioned except Verlaine. Laundry, Caretaker and Verlaine are all song based and probably are closer to DS in that there's a variety of musical styles on offer. 
 
I like PB's singer/songwriter albums, but more for the lyrics than the music; Downtime is probably the best if you're after a more RIO type sound, and it includes a KR related track (Actual Frenzy).
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In regards to where to start? Why, at the beginning of course. That's how the music flowed/was created, and I think best listened to. Especially with Henry Cow, who is/was one of the great defining bands of the RIO movement.

And yes, Western Culture is their magnum opus, but I love all of it, and really love Dagmar's art of vocals.

Just my humble opinion.
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2008 at 17:14
Well said, friend, and a good way to start your forum life.  Welcome.  Smile
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2008 at 17:25
A quick off topic post: did you say you've purchased Soft Head?

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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 13 2008 at 21:07
I only have Heap...I didn't think Soft Head released any recordings?

edit:  Ah, there are a couple of live recordings.  Never heard them, though.


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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2008 at 16:10
I meant Soft Heap, my mistake.  Soft Heap actually released two but I only have their first.

Anyway, did you enjoy it?  You can hear how Gowen plays without Stewart being there.
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2008 at 16:12
Originally posted by James James wrote:

I meant Soft Heap, my mistake.  Soft Heap actually released two but I only have their first.

Anyway, did you enjoy it?  You can hear how Gowen plays without Stewart being there.


Oh I enjoy it tremendously.  Listened to it again today, as a matter of fact.  Just such a fantastic bunch of musicians.
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2008 at 16:23
I'm an Elton Dean fanboy so anything he's on, I enjoy.
I'm also a Hugh Hopper fanboy and so anything he's on, I also enjoy.
Finally, I'm a Pip Pyle fanboy so again, anything he's on, I really enjoy.

Have you tried Absolute Zero yet?
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2008 at 16:27
I had never even heard of them, so I just wandered over to their page here...interesting.  I noticed references to 5uu's and Motor Totemist Guild, I'm seeing those names a bunch around here lately, that's why I asked about U Totem.
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2008 at 16:33
I wouldn't start with 5uu's, to be honest.  As Assaf, Chris and Aaron have discussed in the other thread, they're hit and miss.

I'm not sure what styles make you tick, so it's difficult to suggest bands... how much do you like chamber music and such like?

If you like your Stravinsky, Shostakovich, Messiaen, Bartók and others, you may like some Univers Zero and Present.  It sounds like you're not that keen on depressing music though, so that is why I suggested Samla Mammas Manna.  You should try them again definitely.

Also worth a try maybe a band like Cartoon, although again, availability is not easy (well, Greg Walker and Wayside sell them).

I'd like to have an idea what makes you tick and what makes you grimace.

As for me, well, I am not keen on musicals so Kew. Rhone. I find quite awkward at times.  I also dislike faux-Reggae.
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2008 at 16:39
We're sort of duplicating this conversation here and in the RIO thread...I'll reply to the above post there, as this is getting way off topic from Henry Cow.
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 14 2008 at 16:43
Yes, my apologies.

Henry Cow FTW!

There, back on track.
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The official press release of the Henry Cow Box Set from ReR Megacrop
 
Recommended Records to release 40th Anniversary Henry Cow Box Set in December ....
40th Anniversary Henry Cow Box Set Volumes 1 and 2 is an upcoming nine-CD plus one-DVD box set by English avant-garde rock group Henry Cow, scheduled to be released by Recommended Records in December 2008. It consists entirely of previously unreleased live recordings made between 1971 and 1978, and includes new compositions and improvisations, one-off projects and events, radio broadcasts, and live versions of some of the Henry Cow studio material. The original recordings were remastered by Bob Drake.

The box set is split into two volumes, each in its own box.
Volume 1 consists of five CDs and a book, and covers the period 1971 to 1976. Included is the March 1976 Hamburg radio show that was John Greaves’s last concert with the band, and the Trondheim concert that followed in May where Henry Cow performed as a quartet.

Volume 2 consists of four CDs, a DVD and a book, and covers the period 1976 to 1978. Included is the March 1978 Bremen radio broadcast and the May 1977 Swedish Radio broadcast. The DVD is 80 minutes of Henry Cow in 1976 (with Georgie Born and Dagmar Krause) performing many unreleased pieces as well as material from the original Henry Cow LPs.
One of the CDs in Volume 2, Stockholm (over an hour of extracts from the Swedish Radio broadcast) will be released three months earlier in September 2008 as a teaser to the box set. Featured on Stockholm is "Erk Gah", a 16-minute composition by Tim Hodgkinson that was performed live regularly by the band between 1976 and 1978,[1] but never recorded in the studio.[2] Hodgkinson later recorded it in 1993 under the title "Hold to the Zero Burn, Imagine" with some of the former Henry Cow members and others, and released it in 1994 on his solo album, Each in Our Own Thoughts.
 
 
 
 
If you go to Progressive Ears you can read more about this and also read "live" as Bob Drake is doing the mastering of these recordings, his comments about it etc. Very interesting stuff!
 
 


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Originally posted by avestin avestin wrote:

The official press release of the Henry Cow Box Set from ReR Megacrop
 
Recommended Records to release 40th Anniversary Henry Cow Box Set in December ....
40th Anniversary Henry Cow Box Set Volumes 1 and 2 is an upcoming nine-CD plus one-DVD box set by English avant-garde rock group Henry Cow, scheduled to be released by Recommended Records in December 2008. It consists entirely of previously unreleased live recordings made between 1971 and 1978, and includes new compositions and improvisations, one-off projects and events, radio broadcasts, and live versions of some of the Henry Cow studio material. The original recordings were remastered by Bob Drake.

The box set is split into two volumes, each in its own box.
Volume 1 consists of five CDs and a book, and covers the period 1971 to 1976. Included is the March 1976 Hamburg radio show that was John Greaves’s last concert with the band, and the Trondheim concert that followed in May where Henry Cow performed as a quartet.

Volume 2 consists of four CDs, a DVD and a book, and covers the period 1976 to 1978. Included is the March 1978 Bremen radio broadcast and the May 1977 Swedish Radio broadcast. The DVD is 80 minutes of Henry Cow in 1976 (with Georgie Born and Dagmar Krause) performing many unreleased pieces as well as material from the original Henry Cow LPs.
One of the CDs in Volume 2, Stockholm (over an hour of extracts from the Swedish Radio broadcast) will be released three months earlier in September 2008 as a teaser to the box set. Featured on Stockholm is "Erk Gah", a 16-minute composition by Tim Hodgkinson that was performed live regularly by the band between 1976 and 1978,[1] but never recorded in the studio.[2] Hodgkinson later recorded it in 1993 under the title "Hold to the Zero Burn, Imagine" with some of the former Henry Cow members and others, and released it in 1994 on his solo album, Each in Our Own Thoughts.
 
 
 
 
If you go to Progressive Ears you can read more about this and also read "live" as Bob Drake is doing the mastering of these recordings, his comments about it etc. Very interesting stuff!
 
 
 
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